They are from a convention a little while back.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
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PC-Konsulten.se Company Representative
Translation: Closed showcasing at Best Western Hotel, Cebit, Hannover, Germany
And no we didnt take those photos. We have better onesand a few samples.
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A little thing called NDA prevents them I'm sure.
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Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!
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I seriously can't wait for my future little VM server/Gaming lappy
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PC-Konsulten.se Company Representative
Well, even if we are technically not bound by NDA I suspect some people would be pissed if we shared info they cannot. What I can tell you is that the CEBIT sample was only mock-up meaning it was a hunk of plastic made to look similar to the finished product. For example, its KB and cooling system had not been finalized.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Disclosing what they have or have not would be the sort of thing to annoy people
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Annoy the customers or annoy the source... dilemma dilemma.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
If it's a hard choice like that then you will just have to loose some customers (but hope they understand) rather than getting your supply cut and loosing all your customers.
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No, I understand. I live with confidentiality agreements over my head all the time. The problem I have is some people have been fired for making mention of the projects among peers and family outside of work, but it's their life and it's not like they disclose details pertinent to the product. But whatever, I can wait.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Wait and bathe in all the reviews and good information rather than wallowing in speculation and frustration
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Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Then who am I to come in and give you all the info and spoil all your fun then? It must be for your own good by what you are telling me
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Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!
you actually made an effort to make a joke worse than mine
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meanwhile I am comparing this against the P150EM (np9150)/its successor.
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Actually yes, it is going to be similar performance to the P150EM actually. Similar specs even except for likely no optical drive.
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Hopefully it won't suffer the fate of the W110ER with its disappointing battery life. Everything about the ultraportable gaming laptop sounded great to me but such a tiny thing suffering from crippled portability doesn't make sense. The Alienware M11X could pull off 7+ hours with a similarly sized battery and it came out in 2011, so unless Clevo wants to continuously lose out to its flashier counterparts, their unplugged longevity needs serious R&D.
With it's medium weight (5-6 lbs?) and portable size, the only major issue that might hold the W230ST back from showing clear superiority over its competitors like the MSI GE40 and the M14X r3 is Clevo's tendency to put energy-efficiency lower on its list of priorities. At this size most people want 5+ hours on medium productivity, and we cant count on the lower power consumption of Haswell tech to extend battery life significantly. -
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The 760m will be similar to the 670m, the 765m will be similar to the 670mx. At least according to everything I can find about them. The 770~775 will be equal to the 675mx-680m
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The 770M is not a GK104 like the 675MX...
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
They are making some of the lower cards narrower but faster by the looks of things, the 760M will hold significant advantages over the 660M and be in 670MX territory (looking at the rumoured specifications) (thus negating the need to use it's larger core and package).
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I wonder how possible it would be to put a 13.3" retina display from a macbook into this...
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Apple panels use custom firmware and won't work even if you have right connector...
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oh well was a wet dream to get a retina display on a gaming laptop.
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They dont have the best response times though for games.
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Is what's said on this website true? ´«ÎÅÀ¶Ìì13´çÐÂÆ½Ì¨W230ST¼´½«ÉÏÊÐ1080P ±³¹â¼üÅÌ GT750MÏÔ¿¨_ĽÈÝÖëÖë°É_°Ù¶ÈÌù°É
"***W230ST: The W110ER will not be refreshed this year, instead it will be replaced with the W230ST. The W110ER is not discontinued, just won't be refreshed. This model is going to be the most popular one on the market in my opinion. 13.3" 1920x1080 FHD panel. New refreshed nVidia graphics, Sound Blaster Cinema audio, Illuminated keyboard. Sounds like everyone's wish list approval. ETA July."
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Dont think that's what it means.. the 11" wont be discontinued, Clevo just isnt changing anything on it.
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from what I understand, the W110ER is going to keep the same hardware this year.
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expected price for a decent config? also, do we know if the keyboard is backlit?
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now which thread do I watch?
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Both. Not that hard.
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Have a look at battery life because for optimus (turn off gpu to save power) to work you need to have a single gpu. Also sli doesn't always work properly, it doesn't always scale, and it suffers from microstuttering. There are plenty of reasons why we're not just fitting 50 low power GPUs to small laptops.
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Have no GPU and two of those slots support heftier cards and sure.
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Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!
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With weaker cards the flaws are also more apparent, the input lag and micro stutter are offset by higher frame rates but if they are not perfect then it can feel worse depending on the person.
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I just like that the ultrabay is an extra case fan. No switchable graphics/optimus? No thank you.
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I read that the Nvidia GTX 700 series will be released on 5/23/13. So maybe we'll get some concrete specs in a few days.
W230ST - The 13" We've been waiting for!?
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by HTWingNut, Jan 25, 2013.