Wishes and Expectations for Clevo [2017 Edition]

15" models are simply the biggest seller across the board. 17" is too big for many to take it to school/university/work...

I agree the W230SS was the best small form-factor system they made...typing this on one...the W230SD was just a renamed GPU (860M > 960M). They are really missing a proper 1060 (non-Max-Q) 13/14" system.

 

I'm fine with 75W. As long as it is MXM I am sold. Another laptop that I could use for 10 years.
I wish Sager would sell the LGA versions in US so I could add them to noteb.com and encourage more people to buy them.

Also @Prema any chance we will see 17 version of the w650kk1?

 

Nope, closest to that are the N870 models with 1030 (MX150), 1050 (TI) & 1060...

 

So I guess the P775 remains the only 17 inch model with a socketable CPU ? Shame.

 

There's still the P870. @Prema was talking about the N870, i.e. this one.

 

The P870 is a massive and expensive beast, I need a portable laptop to take to work everyday . The N870 has everything soldered. My eyes right now are on the new PA70H . The thing is, I know that with everything soldered on, I simply don't want to pay $2000 for a laptop that I know will only last 5 years max. If I had a socketable CPU + MXM board, then I know I could probably pull a lot more of usage time out of that machine, I am willing to pay a lot more to have it. Unfortunately the P870 and P775 are massive beast with little to no portability.

I am writing this on my M570TU I just took to my office today. This thing was bought in Dec 2008, the GPU failed after 5 years, but didn't matter, I paid $200 and got a new one and I am good to go.

 

why clevo makes a n850kp6 with a desktop cpu? I think it is great but it is really strage because n850kp6 is really similar to n850hp6. so why not a n870kp6 or w670kk1?

 

2560 x 1440. So that's WQHD or QHD, right?

 

QHD and WQHD are the same (ie Quad HD). Because it's literally 4 lots of 720p resolution.

Most people refer to it as WQHD because there's also "qHD" (small Q) which is for "quarter HD".

2K/3K is just confusing since it doesn't actually imply a specific resolution or aspect ratio, just horizontal pixel count. Even then, it's not even remotely accurate since you round to the nearest 1K. So 2560x1440 is 3K, 3200x1800 is 3K, 3440x1440 is 3K and they're all vastly different.

 

2880 × 1800 is also 3K, and it also has a different aspect ratio...

 

Isn't 1440p the most common "2K" resolution?

 

"wishes"

• thinner bezels like mbp 2017 / xps 15 or Gigabyte Aero
• Ryzen 1700+ based laptop
• Sleek low footprint design

 

I know how much communication there is between us and Clevo on a hourly basis, we meet with them very frequently in person and also have our own office in Taiwan so we have an extremely good connection. There are several other companies which are very big Clevo customers, who you all wouldn't have heard of but they operate in the "non-gaming" chassis sector. As far as I know (partly from direct experience) Sager also have a very close relationship with Clevo, but to be frankly honest I know that we have the most technical and custom option conversations with Clevo.

They look at the market, the produc trends, the technology roadmaps from Intel and Nvidia for the next 3-5 years and also what their customers (and by that I mean companies like us who purchase from them) say in terms of what they would like to sell and so on. Clevo do not sell directly to the public and they don't have direct feedback from the public. Obviously the end user has an input, through what products are popular both when purchased from Clevo resellers or system integrators as well as what the end user purchases from other laptop manufacturers.

 

OK, so you're the man to talk to. I know I speak for a lot of us in the forum when I say. We're hoping for a 17" to 20" monster. Weight is not an issue, need Intels new X299 platform that can handle the largest chips. MEGA COOLING, noise is definitely not an issue. As far as GPUs, would need to be able to handle a pair of the latest GTXs at time of release. (1080tis or Titans) but also Quadros for the engineering guys. Thank you in advance.

 

I present you...the Desktop.

 

HAHA! I left myself wide opened for that one.

 

Pretty sure my 12lb P570WM laptop with a 12-core Xeon processor was more portable than my 45lb 800D based desktop with a 6-core i7 with my 40" curved TV, my keyboard, my mouse, my 5.1 surround system and my webcam as well.

 

On the flipside there is a huge market for thin powerful gaming laptops, as Razer has proved and why Nvidia has created the Max-Q initiative. I think it's technically feasible at this point to put a full mobile 1070 into a 17.3" laptop under .8" thick/6.5lbs without experiencing thermal throttling under full load (I don't care about noise when I'm gaming). I'm someone willing to spend $4000 on that if it also has a quality 4K (Clevo has been particularly lacking in 4K options) G-Sync display, thunderbolt... and get rid of the 2.5" hdd bay and increase the battery size.

It will be interesting to see what Clevo puts out this summer.

 

I constantly hit the up key when trying to hit the short right shift in my P650. Maybe Clevo can move the arrow keys down, like Alienware does.

 

As this is a wishlist so far i have 3 to for my 2 cents. I have a sager 9873 with 2x1080.

1: talk eurocom into making their power supply more readily available to the other resellers. It is currently on my wishlist. They had yet to finish it when i got mine, otherwise i would have gotten off the phone with sager and called them to get one all in one shot.

2: better software. I love the whole no bloatware part about my laptop, but the software just seems clunky to me. Case in point, the flexikey software has extremely limited use in keyboard backlighting. It is unable to combine effects, the effects themselves have no control over color scheme, and will select parts of the keyboard i dont want on its own when i am trying to customize. Granted that is a small part, but if i spend this much on a laptop it would be nice to be able to get some 'ooh's and ahh's'.

3: KEEP THE CHASSIS DESIGN FOR A FEW YEARS. At the current moment i COULD conceivably upgrade to the z270 motherboard, as im sure at least one of the resellers would sell me one to make it the 9876, but what if coffee lake knocks it out of the park, or cannonlake just plain rocks, or i want to try zen even, probably not on that last one, but hey, one never knows.

Ok, so that was 3 cents, but inflation is horrendous these days, so blame the economy.....

 

I'm curious about #3, could you put a Z270 board into a DM3? I guess you'd also need a new top cover because of the 3rd M.2 drive but would everything else fit? I doubt I'd EVER attempt it (way too much work) but definitely a good question.

 

As i have installed my own m.2, the space is already there under the keyboard, if i'm not mistaken, there was just a blank header on the mobo, no connection there. Otherwise, its all the same. @Phoenix would know, we have the same model. And i do agree, waaaaay too much work, at least just add an m.2 and 'optane support', but a 6c coffee lake, or an even better cannonlake..... 'things that make you go hmmmmm'

 

No doubt having the option to use Coffee Lake or Cannon Lake could get me motivated. What kills me is no one knows for sure if it's going to be the same socket, same board. It's a mystery. I don't know if I would switch from my 7700K but knowing you have the option would be nice. I guess Intel doesn't think that way.

 

All these people worried about 'going green', power efficiency etc... designed obsolescence is really the worst offender filling up landfills. Being raised by an engineer and a pseudo one myself that term makes me cringe. I can understand it somewhat in the world of computers, a 7700k would be quite humerous in a lga900 series motherboard (if it could fit the socket) but intel does go just a bit far with it sometimes. And as for what i have seen in the rumor mill, intel plans on a new chipset, z370, so fat chance there, unless they use backwards compatibility to entice people away from zen. At least for our case it should still be easy to use the same footprint and i/o configuration for clevo.

 

My expectations for 2017:

Fingerprint reader support in all entertainment-class Clevo models.​

WTF were they thinking when they pulled the FPR from the N850HP6?
First they cook up a very promising successor to the N850HK1 with a GTX 1060 and a solid looking cooling solution - and then they spoil it all by leaving out a component worth a few bucks.

 

I never use the FPR but I get the frustration. Why would they take that away? I thought that would be on every laptop they made