Yeah i was wondering when Notebookchecks reviews became gospel (accepted as unquestionably true) ?..
Anyhoo as far as the displays go i have seen the differences first hand of the hannstar screen brightness between the 3 of them i have owned..
First G73 was among the brightest then the Clevo i got was a bit dimmer then the G73 i have now is the dimmest of the 3 ...
The M17x RGB destroys the Hannstar screen in all aspects except the deep blacks .. But even the RGB screen looks dim compared to my desktop screen so pretty much all laptop screens now look weak by comparison..
As for the power issues i am still under the belief the 300w printed on that brick is either wrong or just like the desktop systems the secondary card is never pulling nearly the same amount as the primary card but ill have to think its the former... Someone certainly needs to go spend $13 and buy a Kill-0-Watt to show us whats up ...
I certainly feel bad for people anticipating this machine with the thread becoming a shower of negativity..
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Power Consumption
Off / Standby 0.4 / 3.5 Watt
Idle 84.1 / 86.8 / 97.4 Watt
Last 216.0 / 271.9 Watt
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So if thats the case then CLEARLY the machine does not have a power issue that is if you are to believe anything Notebookcheck says ..
Id be more inclined to believe there power consumption tests over anything else they have written especially there game benchmarks...
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In fact, I think that the system demanded more than the PSU could handle and shut off before kill-a-wat could register more juice. -
Notebookcheck isn't the first place I'd rely on for a thorough accurate review BUT as Aikiimox pointed out, their screen testing and power testing is decent (sometimes their numbers are a bit off). They exposed the M15x throttling long before anyone else caught on. If they are seeing the system shut down under full load (they usually run something intensive like prime + furmark) then that points to the PSU being the culprit.
Even if the 300W can output 320-330W, it may not be enough to power the entire system when it's fully loaded. That shouldn't be an issue for the vast majority that buy the x7200/480m sli combo because hardly anything out there pushes the system that hard. However, if they venture into overclocking the GPU/CPU and running games, they could easily run into problems in a CPU/GPU intensive game.
The M17x is also limited by it's PSU but it doesn't shut down under full load like the X7200. While this particular review unit could have just had issues since it's pre-production, I don't think that's the case. I'd be curious to see what some owners report when/if the time comes. -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
My M17x (the R1) shuts down if you push it too far. But I mean like 280+ watts on a 240W adapter.
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Of course, if you OC the system like mad eventually the power threshold will be reached on any machine. But I'm assuming notebookcheck did their testing with the X7200 at stock clocks. Personally if I were to purchase an X7200 I'd get a 920 desktop CPU + 470M SLi combo. That would be a very good power/performance ratio. -
going to call drama...
my 220 watt psu from my sager d901c hit 310 watts with a serious over clock.
2 75 watt vga's (9800m gt's) - oc=about 87 per card max.(guest-a-mation from my testing back then)
1 130 watt cpu (qx9650) - no-oc= about 130 max.
and this does not include everything else in the system.
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Your D901 had a different PSU maker. They all vary based on who's making it. If yours was a Li Shin, those are one of the better quality PSUs. The Flextronics PSU's (for the M17x) are rated at 240W and don't go much above 245W before shutting off. -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Flextronics wont be making psus for a Clevo laptop if I had to guess. And mine is a Flex and I have seen as high as 295 on it before cutting out haha
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I mentioned flextronics because that's what we haveI forget the name of the one X7200 uses (hemi posted a picture earlier) but it's definitely not Li Shin. With the 3 Flextronics 240W supplies I've owned previously, they all peaked at 245W watts or around there before shutting down. Was yours in the freezer when you hit 295W?
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Nope, 295 was on the counter. And yours should have all been 240W if I am not mistaken? Mine is rated 240W
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Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!
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Yes my mistake. So basically I've had 3 PSU's in a row that don't go much above stock ratings. Each Kill-A-Watt reading showed around 245W before the PSU shut down. This current one is my fourth but I haven't tested it with a meter since I lost it when moving back to Cali.
Edit: Here we go: http://forum.notebookreview.com/5834259-post1894.html it was peaking at 220W but that was with the old crap bios that initially shipped with the R2. Even with the new ones I was barely hitting 245W on those older R2's I had. I should get a kill a watt and test this one out. -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
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Here you go again!
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good question. i forget what it was now. but it did hang and it never went out.(meaning, never went bad)
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Yikes, 318W on a single GPU system. Lets say the current 300W can do 350W, furmark + prime would probably hit that quite fast. -
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The power supply of the X7200 is Chicony. I know they make keyboards...
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i concur. that's why i listed my qx9650 power draw as 130. software said 147 as well.
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Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by AndrewKW, May 30, 2010.