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    XMG U700 Laptop unofficial GPU upgrade

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Dark_Ansem, Feb 27, 2013.

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    Thanks, that´s good to know!
     
    Tirenz, May 28, 2013
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    any news on this? has the support being helpful?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Jun 1, 2013
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    Helps if the machine and cards are out that these are coming from ;)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 1, 2013
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    true... but I mean if also the BIOS was released.
     
    Dark_Ansem, Jun 1, 2013
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    You need to have the cards to test them before releasing them to the public ;)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 1, 2013
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    oh sorry, I keep missing extremely important passages :p
     
    Dark_Ansem, Jun 1, 2013
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    Yeah if the cards are not available yet it makes it a bit difficult to work on lol.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 1, 2013
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    when are they supposed to be available?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Jun 4, 2013
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    They are starting to be now but it will take time for the right people to get hold of them and start work.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 5, 2013
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    have you got them yet Meaker. come on mate, youve had 30 minutes :D
     
    MrDJ, Jun 5, 2013
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    right. thanks!
     
    Dark_Ansem, Jun 5, 2013
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    Oh I have all the files and everything, I just like making people suffer :p

    I am waiting on tracking down the GT60 3k edition so things will be delayed from me.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 5, 2013
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    oh no, poor Dark_Ansem
     
    MrDJ, Jun 5, 2013
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    I'll try to endure a bit more :p
     
    Dark_Ansem, Jun 6, 2013
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    That's not quite true. I did upgrade my system on GTX 675mx SLI and it is working perfectly fine. There is only one thing to mention:
    The Start Screen appears in some sort of 16 colors vga, like the C64 Commodore in the 80'. But then it switches back and all is fine. Till yet I had no problems at all! :)
     
    CaerCadarn, Aug 7, 2013
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    any news at all?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Aug 7, 2013
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    No change of this as far as I am aware.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 7, 2013
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    aw crap...
     
    Dark_Ansem, Aug 8, 2013
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    I think as long as no one will try, we will not know ;).
    But I don´t think it will work, because the newer cards like 670mX and so on didn´t work out of the box the with 1X0HM series, so there might be an analogy here.

    And btw, with the newer drivers (320...) some benchmarks like new 3DMark run faster than before (for example a couple of hundred points at Fire Strike!), so if you compare the new ones to the 780m scores the difference is there, but it is not that high that I will "gamble" and try a 780m ;).
     
    Tirenz, Aug 8, 2013
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    I thought Clevo was supposed to release a BIOS update?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Aug 9, 2013
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    Huh? For the X7200? It´s obsolete, Clevo will never release a new BIOS for it. :(
     
    Tirenz, Aug 9, 2013
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    aw.
    So, in the end, since I want a new gpu for my laptop, what would you recommend?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Aug 27, 2013
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    You are likely to find good deals on 680M or 7970M cards at the moment.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 28, 2013
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    ouch. was hoping for the newer one :d
    where could I buy from europe?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Aug 28, 2013
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    has someone experimented a bit more, with newer GPUs?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Sep 14, 2013
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    Considering the 7970M and 680M offer almost all (when tweaked especially) the performance of the 8970M and 780M it's hardly a poor choice.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 15, 2013
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    oh? really? how?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Sep 16, 2013
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    Well the 7970M uses the same chip as the 8970M there is just a small gap in frequency.

    The 680M has a few less shaders than the 780M and comes at a lower stock clock but if you overclock it you can get it to 85-90% of the 780M when both are tweaked.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 16, 2013
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    what about the 680MX? would that work?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Sep 29, 2013
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    No, that card was only made by apple.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 29, 2013
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    ah crap I forgot about that.
     
    Dark_Ansem, Sep 30, 2013
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    couldn't I try to use a desktop GPU?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Oct 5, 2013
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    so you are still hunting :)

    trying a desktop gpu would be like putting a bmw engine in a toothbrush.

    i would give up now and either buy another 580 to go with your original or bite the bullet and empty your wallet and go for two 680's or as mentioned two equivalent ati cards.

    or sell your laptop and buy a new 4th gen xmg with dual 780's
     
    MrDJ, Oct 5, 2013
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    I cannot afford another new laptop...
     
    Dark_Ansem, Oct 5, 2013
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    just stick with what you've got then and start saving. by the time 5th gen is released you should have enough.
     
    MrDJ, Oct 5, 2013
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    5th gen?
    besides, the cpu is still awesome. if I could find a cheap 680M..
     
    Dark_Ansem, Oct 5, 2013
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    good idea thanks!
     
    Dark_Ansem, Oct 5, 2013
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    any more updates on this?
    I graduate at the end of the month, so I'll be free to customize the laptop how I see fit.

    I'd loathe to change it as I have a very good CPU and I don't wish to relinquish it.

    EDIT: if so, can someone make me a tidy checklist by which I can check everything I need to buy in order to install the card?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Nov 6, 2013
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    Card flashed with the right bios + heatsink.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 6, 2013
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    what? can you explain that more in-depth?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Nov 6, 2013
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    any update?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Nov 15, 2013
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    I see.
    that bios trick would't work for a higher GPU, like the 780M, right? nor would the heatsinks
     
    Dark_Ansem, Nov 15, 2013
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    The heatsinks work since the 780M is fundamentally the same silicon and circuitry but the bios structure is quite different so due to bios issues it can't work.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 15, 2013
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    I hate life LOL it will be 2 680M then :D one at a later date tho.
    I live in europe, where could I buy them?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Nov 16, 2013
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    2 680m still rock. You can overclock them to stock GTX 780m speed if you want, temps still will be good.

    Even though at some moments I was tempted to try a GTX 780m in my X7200m, just to see if I can get it going, I was so satisfied with the power of 2 GTX 680m that I never did it ;).

    Try out ebay, try to write the resellers like mysn, one.de and so on. You can buy them from goldenstar, too, but it would be really expensive...
     
    Tirenz, Nov 16, 2013
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    well, thanks then :D I just don't want to relinquish my awesome CPU :D
    how did you overclock the 680M to 780M value? do they work the same?

    how can I trust an ebay reseller?
    where did you buy yours?
     
    Dark_Ansem, Nov 16, 2013
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    You can overclock it with nvidia inspector. It´s easy!

    Well, it´s up to you if you trust an ebay reseller, some of them are companies, just look at the Feedback to get a little overview...
    I bought mine from one.de, you can read that in this thread, just go back some pages ;).
     
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