nVIDIA 8800M GTX

You were hoping to get it for 375 $ or is it a fact?
Cause Sager resellers stated the 8800M GTX to be sold for 750 $ and more...

 

The difference is the video card by itself will be just under $800, but the upgrade from the 7950 GTX will only be the difference between the two if he is able to arrange that along with his LCD replacement.

 

Maybe I could have been a bit more specific paladin44 is right:

Thing is that I have dead pixel warranty. And because of the dead pixel I have in my current M570RU, it will get REPLACED by a new barebone with the "supposed" new mainboard and the 8800M GTX.

I had to return my notebook anyway, but I asked my reseller if I could wait a week or two and get the new barebone (8800M GTX) and he agreed.

So is it worth it for the 300-375 US dollars?

 

If you want about double the video card performance you bet it is worth it.

 

Hell yeah it`s worth it!
Hey Donald, how`s your situation with the upgrades? Same prices as XoticPc or do you guys have some other arrangements?

 

Since it is Sager that is doing the upgrade program, it is Sager's pricing, not Xoticpc's or PowerNotebooks.com's...so the pricing will be the same

 

Darn, I thought I might get away with it somehow. Well 7950GTX, you`re here to stay...for a while

 

Donald, will you guys accept a trade-in of the old 7950GTX for credit towards the 8800M GTX (or GTS, not much mentioned about that though)

 

Sorry, but neither Sager nor PowerNotebooks.com really have any use for a used 7950 GTX.

However you will receive the old motherboard and 7950 GTX card back so you may have some luck with it at eBay or...??

 

Does anyone seriously know where to sell an old 7950 GTX and Intel PM965 mobo???
eBay sales are pretty much nonexistent and I especially don't know anyone who wants a used notebook mobo.

 

You can try the "FOR SALE" section here on NBR . . . The video card should be easier to sell then the mobo.

 

If you can't sell it on eBay, you can't sell it anywhere.

 

It wouldn't be a bad option to keep those boards and gpus on hand. You never know when things are gonna go south and if its after your warranty (if you didnt get the 3 yr for example) then it could come in handy to ward off a spendy fix it cost.

Ideally it would be nice to sell them but its also not a bad option to keep them just in case.

 

HI, Jikeel good idea I will keep mine when I get it back. Just in case if my computer brakes so at least I have a backup parts

 

you couldnt put those in a desktop could you? they do use pci-e right....or am i completely out of it.

Just trying to think of things to do with them so they dont become useless to you guys.

 

I don`t really think you can use mobile GPUs in desktops. They are of a different design AFAIK and PCIe on desktops is/is not similar to the mobile counterpart.
But then again,jf it works I`m gonna pump um my desktop with a 7950GTX go

 

But you could put it in a server chassis. Throw some ram, cpu and a hard drive and use for it something else.

 

I know somebody already asked this question !!! sorry....

Is 8800M GTX compatible with the first model NP9260 ?

Thanks!

 

no it is not

 

Would it be a difficult thing to get ahold of an empty laptop case & screen and put it in?

 

Ummm...I dont know where you would get an empty case for these boards and such...you would almost have to plea with clevo or see if sager has one lying around (doubtful). Its a good idea but I don't really know where you would get an empty case.

 

RJTech would probably sell you one. A complete barebones with no CPU, GFX etc are available on their site.

 

You could do without the case I suppose: that's just to keep the components together ... I doubt it does anything more than that.
(I remember seeing pictures of MB/CPU/.... in a self built lego case ^^ thought that was a desktop, I suppsoe one could make it work for a laptop as well )

 

Yes you do not need the case for it to work, but you need the power supply or something comparable. Hmm I wonder how much the LCD is.

 

They sell replacement LCDs of lots of flavors. My understanding is that there are a few LCD makers that supply the few real laptop makers that sell their stuff to resellers.

I have a link somewhere for a LCD supplier I got a replacement for an old laptop I had, but google will bring up a bunch.

 

Paladin44 or Justin, do either of you know the specs on Clevo's 8800GTX? A few people on the Alienware forum are saying that their 8800GTX will only have 96 stream processors vs the previously reported 112 stream processors. Can either of you clarify that for us? Thanks.

Edit: Nvm, Found the info on the Nvidia page here. Looks like it's 96.

 

from nvidias site.

GeForce 8800M GTX
Stream Processors 96
Core Clock (MHz) 500
Shader Clock (MHz) 1250
Memory Clock (MHz) 800
Maximum Memory 512MB
Memory Interface 256-bit


http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8800m.html

 

Hey ragebot I will look into that shortly. I am still undecided on what I want to do at this moment. I am actually considering buying another laptop. I just waiting to see what the new CPU will require.

 

me too

 

I figure by the time I pay for shipping and the upgrade I have paid most of the cost of a new one. I will wait a while and see what happens with the new CPUs.

 

i think im stuck in the same boat .. i want to do the upgrade but by the time i pay shipping and the 1100$ for the mobo and card it will prob be near 1200+ if i have to pay both ways not sure if they make you pay on the way back.. i mean i can buy a whole new system for not much more.. maybe not a 8800 system but for what i paid for my 8700 system plus upgrade i could have nearly bought 2 of what i have now.. this whole deal just sucks for the customers so bad..

i have to agree with the comment about xotic.. no issues with them at all.. they have been great but imo clevo/sager screwed a lot of people in this mess. i could have spent the extra 350-400$ initially but i simply can not spend 1100$ just to have a better video card.. and for the peopl living with the s3 issue on the 5791's you should make 100% sure sager will still honor your warr with that issue or will they say screw you you changed the card knowing there were issues with both of them... they prob will not do that but its def a thought to be concerned with later on.. just my 2 cents .. i know im mad. i know i sound bitter because i am. it just pisses me off. and i know im not the only one..

 

definitely not, Zfactor...I`m overly pissed also, that upgrade price could get me a desktop 8800 GTX ultra and some RAM for a high end desktop .. O_O

 

>.> I didn't even think about it like that....your right it just makes more sense to keep a above average laptop and build a really nice desktop rig for 1,000$

 

Yeah that's the moral of this story.

Buy the minimum laptop for what you need and spend the money on a sweet desktop.

$4000 buys a top of the line desktop, SLI 8800 GTX's... and a couple 22" LCD flat panels at 1680x1050... with money to spare.

 

Exactly, if people would research what they needed prior to purchase then I think a lot of grief would be avoided. You would think that most people WOULD buy what was needed not just 'perceived'. Some people just have to learn the hard way, to not overbuy.

Everyones needs are different. I work on a ship and space is limited + having to carry a desktop onboard. The D901C was the perfect choice for me.

 

Would that we had the room for a desktop - as it is, I get dirty looks if I leave my little 14.1" notebook out on the table.

What I'd like to see is a variant on the all-in-one systems being sold today - instead of having the computer built into the monitor, I'd like to be able to get a minimum notebook that will do the basics when I take it with me (word-processing, excel, and the occasional game of solitare), but that would link wirelessly to a desktop tower when I'm home, with the notebook acting as merely a passive display unit/keyboard-mouse input unit/removeable media I/O unit. That way, I could have all of the power and upgradeability of a desktop, and still be able to hide the tower away where it can't be seen (and, more importantly, where sticky little 3-y.o. fingers can't put PBJs in the drives ).

Basically, I'm looking in part for something that does the reverse of the slingbox - instead of piping video from the cable wire to your notebook, it would take the video-out signal from the desktop tower and pipe it into the passive notebook (which would then be an ersatz tv).

The next best would be the same setup, but in a wired format with a one-interface wire that was at least 6 or 7 feet long.

Anyone seen anything like that?

 

you know what would be really nice, external graphics cards that work just like an external hard drive. >.> not sure how you could build them and get around the massive heat, but I think it would be really cool to come home from a trip and plug in a smaller notebook and get the power of a desktop card.

 

Here ya go!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20070111060818.html

 

Not exactly what he was looking for man. You have to view the Asustek card on an external monitor. You can't use your notebooks display to view it.

 

Technically impossible though, won't be able to reconnect and passthrough the video to the existing LCD panel without hardware design. Besides, the XG-Station project seem to have been abandoned and no news since the hype like 6-7 months ago and originally planned to release during Q4 07 or Q1 08(which is like now). The biggest problem was the expresscard slot limited to 1x as opposed to 8x or 16x. There would be no benefit adding a 8800GTX desktop card, as it would probably do no better than a 8600 due to limited bandwidth.

If someone was willing to lug around an external harddrive/external video card they can bring the LCD monitor too because that thing is huge! Heck, you guys should be greatful, for guys who went to oldschool lanparty's should remember lugging around those full towers and 19" CRT monitors

The idea of an external GFX cards preferrably SLi capable for laptops is a great idea, and despite it requiring another monitor I would much prefer that by adding a 22-24" monitor to that the increase the gaming experience, which is what we're all after anyway.

 

>.> Well actually something like that is what I would want, I have a 27 inch monitor/tv. Kind of surprised there is no updated info on something like that though.

Just found this on endgadget
Seems its a complete waste though because the bandwith of express card single lane is 2.5gb

 

Although I would say a 4x PCI-e would be sufficient for most and probably won't be saturated(and greatly improved over laptop solutions). Ideally 16x would be nice by completely taking out the equation, but such an adapter card would be huge and won't make much sense.

 

It looks like MSI is still in the business though:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/08/23/msi-displays-external-pcie-box

Granted that was from august but not too far back. The bandwidth limitations do suck though. I am interested in seeing how well these actually work.

 

Question for Justin - does Sager plan to release a 15.4inch laptop with the 8800 like alienware's m15x. I really like this laptop, but I don't really dig Dell/AW, and would really like to be able to get this from a brand I respect.

 

Welcome surtrsflame!

I hope you don't mind me answering your question.

At this time Sager has not announced a 15.4" laptop with the 8800M.

Also please note that the Alienware that you are referring to is only an "announcement" to begin shipping in the 1st Quarter of next year. We will all be interested to see if it actually does begin shipping (those of us that have been around for a while will remember that Alienware is famous for "announcing" things that don't ship when they say they will...or that never actually ship), and even if it does ship what issues will arise from putting that video card in a 15.4" case.

 

As Paladin stated there are no plans of a 15.4" laptop with the 8800M. We will all see soon what unfolds with this card in a 15.4" chassis...

 

I would just like to add, that the Alienware "15.4" m15x looks like a much larger chasis than any other "15.4" inch I have seen. Keep in mind, giving it a "15.4" inch designation, really means nothing about the size of the case, only the screen. The area on the top panel around the screen looks HUGE meaning it will most likely be much larger, from front to back than other "15.4" inch laptops.

 

Thanks Paladin44, Justin, and BMonk - I'm mainly looking at the 15 because of price and how wide it is - thickness, and how far back it goes is not nearly as important. It's also a matter of rendering 2+ years in the future, where a single 8800 will be able to handle the 15inch screen better for those games than it will the 17inch screen.

 

aha if sager did come out with a 15.4 8800 I'll just about commit harakiri...(j/k). But seriously I went with my current 15.4 because I didn't envision the 8800M coming to a 15.4 form factor. Having said that I think there'll be a big market for 8800M equipped 15.4" and it'll be great if that happens.

 

Lol, that reminded me of the old days, luging around a s/s steel tower, with triple hard drives -weighed a ton, and then strapping the monitor into the front seat!! -lol

Now I can lug a heavy XR5 notebook to my next lan party, but in comparison to my desktop sytems, it will be like a featherweight - and about four times the power!!

-Coors916