x7200 Benchmark thread

Ok, I got 11.4 installed, and my BIOS seems up to date. Here are benchmarks at stock speeds. I dont want to OC yet, until I get the hang of things.

3dMark06 - Stock - 23,893



3dMark11 - Stock - 5961



3dMarkVantage - Stock - 23,253

 

Glad you finally got it to work!

Great scores . I can´t see the single scores at 06 and 11, but in Vantage our GPU score is nearly the same (21261 - 21295). You got the same vBios I used besides the Dell vBios I used some days ago to test.

Curious if you will get your machine to overclock the vRAM well - I can´t get higher than 920 when running 3dMark Vantage. Can go up to 1000 and maybe more in 06 and 11, though.

Anyway, thanks for the Benches and the GPU-Z screenshot! Hope to see some more...

 

No problem. I need to buy the full version of 06 and 11.

So, I know how to OC my CPU, but I have never OC a GPU. Is there a specific tool to use that is best? It looks like CCC has an "AMD Overdrive" tool to do it. Does that work well? Is there an OC guide for GPU around here? What would you recommend?

Like I said, its my first new comp in a while, so I am rusty on the technical details.

 

Hey, Thom293... can you, please, check out the temps after running those 3dmarks? Wanna see how hot it gets and if there is a room for additional OC!

Anyways, great scores, bud... keep going)

I think, you might even use Catalyst Control Center. 800/1000 for Gpus should be an esay first step to go, just hit apply. Msi afterburner is a great tool as well.

 

Since AMD Overdrive only supports up to 710 clock speed, I did what Speedy suggested in this post over in the Alienware forum:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/7256792-post30.html
Worked great for me. Could run 3DMark11 with 800/1000, as posted some posts earlier.
Since we got crossfire, we have to flash both cards, though. Somehwere else I found out how to do that, but I can´t remember where...

 

im more interesting in the 6970m heatsink......would u mind open the bottom and fan show it??

 

Tirenz: use Saphire TriXX to overclock. Its a tool for AMD cards specifically.

 

Funny, I just upgraded the X7200 with I7 970 and 4 more GB of RAM... could have made a pic, but now it´s closed again... will do that, though, in a couple of days.
The temps running Furmark for about 10 minutes are great - they won´t go over 78°. Each time it hits 78° the fans will blow a little faster and it´s back to 76°, even in extreme burning mode...

 

Thanks for suggestions. I will try to mess with it more tonight.

So what are good temp and fan programs now? I think I used to use speedfan, but that was years ago.

 

Speedfan is good but in x7200 you can't set your own fan curve i recomend HWmonitor pro
File name: CPUID-HWMonitor-Pro-v1-11.rar File size: 7.97 MB
this will show all the temps

 

Torment, thanks for the link. I have now downloaded trial version. Will buy full version tomorrow after I get wallet out of my car...

I did not check my GPU temps, but here are the processor temps.

For 3dMark11 - max temps ranged from 67-70 across all cores
For 3dMarkVantage - max temps range from 75-77 across all cores

Idle temps are between 51-56. My home office is hot as hell right now though. I am sure if my laptop was on a stand, and I turned the AC down and the ceiling fan up, it would be a bit better. Ambient is about 23.8c.

But if I remember correct, temps below 80c are acceptable, right?

EDIT:

Load temps after 5 min of Prim95:

CPU: 84-87c

Load temps after 1 min idle:

CPU: 58c-61c

 

there is a keygen in the folder
have you up dated EC to 1.00.06
And in hw you can log the temps i had Hw running in the background for 24h with log rec on with the old EC then instaled the new ver did the same just to have and compare
just to see the dif betven the two EC and it was big dif in temps during load and idle CPU temps now are lowest @ 35c highest @ 47c before they where the same as yours 58c to 61c

 

So far what has been the best drivers for the nVidia 485M and the AMD 6970M for benching. What do you think?
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Not that easy to say. If you look just at stock Benches, the differences are so minimal, it seems there is no really difference in both cards. 6970m beats 485m in 3d11, and 485m beats 6970m in Vantage and so on.

Looking at overclocking, maybe I got very "not overclockable" cards, since in Vantage I get crashes when I push the memory past 915-20. The 485m seems to be a very good overclocker, but maybe there are people out there who can´t do that that much, too...??

Anyway, and this is from my experience so far:
I have many problems with the AMD cards - non working crossfire profles (Star wars Force Unleashed 2 e.g., Crysis 2 with flickering) in many games, or just crashes (Red Alert 3 with Bluescreens in the middle of the game when running in native solution...), or you have to use "radeon pro" and MAYBE it will get better etc.
I never hat SLI cards, too, but much less trouble with all nVidia cards so far. I only got BSODs with nVidia cards when I overclocked too much, otherwise the programm running maybe crashed. With AMD, there are a lot of Bluescreens...

I don´t know if nVidia is worth the much more money, but I think next time will be nVidia again... till that, the crossfire cards get a chance to grow on me ;-).

 

for now i trust nvidia....
guys should check it out, the author might work for nvidia, but why amd no response or counter attack?
Testing NVIDIA vs. AMD Image Quality NVIDIA
AMD Radeon HD 6850 und HD 6870 Test - Bildqualität: Texturenflimmern (9/21) - TweakPC

amd put the "ai" in the driver which automatically reduce quality for fps increse, and cant manually turn it off!
same system/game setting but different gpu/driver:
gts450
hd5770 see the missing grass
gts450
hd5770 see the missing shadow

 

Looked today for it:
It says "Novark 101123".

Is that a special heatsink for 6970m or is it for nVidia cards, too?

 

Many thanks, now i have the general idea of the cooling system... but i thought it's somewhat better Did u try to update EC to 1.00.06? May be that'll help
HWMonitor tend to work very well for my previous systems before and you might wanna use Furmark for 10min or so and make a screenshot with recorded temps of your components!

 

What is the highest GPU score in Vantage so far with a SLI 485M and 6970M Crossfire? I think I saw someone with over 28K. Anyone hit 30K for the GPU score?

 

i may try break 30k gpu when winter
my 485m core batch 1047a1, maybe i can find 11XXa1 gf110 and resolder on it
but till that the 580m and kepler come out...........

 

Have any of you tried out the driver in the thread below? It has boosted the scores of some...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/579209-nvidia-driver-275-27-a-3.html
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@babyhemi:

You wouldn't happen to know what that HF means would you?
I have some 'non HF' cards.

For it to mean high frequency would be ridiculous, right?

 

I am no expert, but doesn't physx skew that result in favor of nvidia a pretty good bit?

 

Yes is does. However before you run Vantage just disable PPU under options so as to get the un biased score.
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Anyone hit 8k in 3DMark11 yet??
Here's the best I've seen for the M18x (2720QM+6970MCF)

 

waiting for 275.xx "whql" to beat it

 

what's your current best run?

 

Here's another one from the competitor
30K 3DMark06, 7959 3DMark11 C'mon guys, let's do some benching!

 

Yes for sure. Has anyone with a M18x reached what one did in the link below with the x7200 485M SLI in Vantage? Seems like 25K or so GPU score in Vantage is what I am seeing ...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/564407-x7200-benchmark-thread-5.html#post7412156

 

Yep, so far the best I've seen in Vantage GPU score was the 28.5K for the X7200 vs 25.5k for the M18x. However, the AW still beats the Clevo both in 3Dmark06 and 11 and that's why I think true benchers should enter the arena here and show what the beast is capable of!

 

3DMark11 is a better indicator of gaming performance than Vantage too.

 

Here are some new Benches...

In Vantage I still can´t get the memory clocks higher than ~920 . The core clock can be set pretty high, so that is the result, no record, but not THAT bad :

Spoiler

In 3dMark11 I can go a lot higher, latest result:

Spoiler

But can´t come close with the memory to the 1100+ memory clocks that some guys over in the Alienware forum posted...

 

Awesome, Tirenz. Thanks sfpr sharing. Finally we can see, what x7200 with 6970CF and OC is capable of. Did u check the temps after those runs? The guy, from 485m OC thread got such low temps for GPU and CPU (around 60C), is the cooling system that great?

 

I´m the Guy from the other Thread

Using for benchmarking the max Fansettings but the X7200 has a very good coolingsystem.

Here my 485 SLi results.

Intel i7 950@ 3,5GHz and 1.03V V Bios for the Nvidia GTX 485m.
Driver Version: 275.27

Core/Shader/Memory Clocks @ 735/1410/1600Mhz


Vantage: P30392 GPU 26963




3dMark 06: 22351



3dMark 11: P6983


Ps. with the new nvidia 275.33 whql driver are the scores lower!

 

Yeah, the cooling system is that great! Although I don´t get THAT low temps as Chrack2...
Temps don´t go over 80° even when overclocked like that...
If you press FN+1 the fans run on highest settings, then temps usually don´t get over 75°C...

@Chrack2
Great scores! I´m jealous of the vantage run

BTW, I have a similiar 3dMark06 as you, funny thing is, no matter what overclocking I do, it always nearly stays the same?

 

For Information, i use the Mod Bios 08 from Kizwan.
I undervoltet my i7 950 from 1,25V to 0,9V

It´s not a joke with the 0,9V and a FSB/BLCK 153Mhz the CPU (3,51Ghz) run Primestable and 15c cooler
It runs with 75c for over 2 hours.

Without the undervolting the Temp. go over 90c in 10min Prime at standart 133Mhz FSB/BLCK.


The great Scores are with the V Bios for the 485m.
Normaly they run with 1,00V in 3D with this Bios they run with 1,03V.
So you can set the Core/Shader/Memory - Clocks higher as normal

But the OC is only for benching, normaly i use all at standart.

 

Geeeezzzz, man! That's a superior results you've got. Undervolted and oc'ed like hell chips on a laptop. I'd defenitely stay with Sager's new x7200 disciple

Hey, Tirenz. Did u try that modded bios on your latop. Would've been nice to see 32nm i7-970 with even better results

 

Hey Red Line,

no, I didn´t overclock the CPU till now. I knew it could be done, but did spend all my energy in the GPU overclocking .
But maybe it´s time to do some overclocking with the I7-970, too . Have to go into it and see what I can get going...

 

Hi I bought a clevo7200 (Sager NP7280) in confugurazione:

17.3 "1920 x 1080 Full HD
Intel Core i7 Processor Extreme-990X
IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
12GB Triple Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz
2x SLI GTX + 485M 2nd AC Power Adapter with Converter Box
HDD1 Intel 250GB 510 SERIES
HDD2 ntel 250GB 510 SERIES
HDD3 Intel 250GB 510 SERIES
RAID 0.

The performances are exceptional!!
But I would like to improve the performance!!

I want to run a overclok GPUs.
I've got the tool "MSI Afterburner"

I can easily change the parameters overclok like in the picture? without complications or damage? I am not very expert overclok .. then I would follow the parameters of the picture "Chrack2"

I can easily change the parameters?

DEFAULT

Core Clock = 575 MHz
Shader Clock = 1150 MHz
Memory Clock = 1500 MHz

OVERCLOK

Core Clock = 735 MHz
Shader Clock = 1470 MHz
Memory Clock = 1600 MHz

Chrack2 Thanks for the photos and overclock parameters!
I hope you reply and give me advice on the matter.

Thanks and greetings from Italy!!!!!

 

Hi,

yes you can change the parameter but slowly not directly my parameters.
Change it step by step in 30MHz steps and controll it.

My setup is with a modet bios for the 485m!
Normaly the card has 1Volt with this Bios the Card has 1.03Volt, so you can higher overclock

But why will you overclock?
The 485m SLI has enough power with standart settings

 

Hello!!! Thanks for the reply!!
Yes were the two powerful graphics cards can play any game in Full HD Ultra with details But I would like to overclock the dual GPU, to improve the score in the benchmark and improve performance, just as in fact you! Your score is IMPRESSIVE!! Great!!! Ok So before proceeding with the overclock I have to change the bios?
Where to find the modified bios??

Chrack2 I can make a GUIDE for overclocking the GPU?
I would be very grateful!!! Sorry but I'm NOT very experienced, and I would not do DAMAGE .. you're an expert !! can help me? Please

If you want to give you my contact email..
Thanks

 

The Mod-Bios can you find in the 485m overclocking results Thread here.

BUT when you a beginner in OC and flashing a GPU, please let it be

The flashing can be failed for example.

 

here is quite easy flash how to for both gpu and sys bios
here is a link to some files you gonna need
File name: all files needed.rar File size: 5.74 MB

here is the how to flash
first do the list command to find out your device number
c:\nvflash --list (that will give you the device numbers one would be called on clevo 0 and 1 wright them up ok it could be 1 and 2 what ever you get thats your number i will use 0 and 1 and i will put them in red
c:\nvflash -i 0 -r (will take of any wright protectionoff card one)
c:\nvflash -i 1 -r (will take of any wright protectionoff card two)
(insted of -r you can use comand --protectoff)
then do command
c:\nvflash -i 0 -4 -5 -6 xxxx.rom (this will flash bios on card one)
c:\nvflash -i 1 -4 -5 -6 xxxx.rom (this will flash bios on card two)
COUTION DO THIS ON OWN RISK
do this in pure dos from the usb you can use the boot usb soft in the all files needed rar
and later in this post is the how to for making a boot usb and how to flash sys bios

then restart and make shore to leave the PC on boot from usb
just incase you need to blind flash
but of course take out the usbstick when rebooting if it works and every thing is fine when inside windows
reboot with usb in
and give commands
c:\nvflash -i 0 --protecton (it set the wright protection back on card one)
c:\nvflash -i 1 --protecton (it set the wright protection back on card two)
Restart with out usb in now you are ready
these command are for the ver in the pack i put together this is the same for 460m 470m 480m or 485m and if you only have one card just take away -i command and you only do one command line for each thing for exsampel
c:\nvflash -r (protectionoff)
c:\nvflash -4 -5 -6 xxxx.rom
c:\nvflash --protecton
YOU DONT NEED TO RESTART AFTER EVERY COMMAND


In cluded in file is Folders

Clevo x7200Sager_728bv05cs OC MOD "old unlocked Bios from sager"
Clevo x7200 Sager_728BV08S OC MOD "new unlocked Bios from sager"
USB_Format "tool and files needed to make usb boot"
X72_0806 "Clevo Org bios and EC"
BIOS_09 "Latest Clevo org bios"
Clevo_gtx_485m_1.03 "Vbios for 485m with modded volt from 1.0 to 1.03 for OC"
Clevo_gtx_480m_o.9 "Vbios for 480m with modded volt from 0.85 to 0.9 for oc"
nvflash_win 5.95.0.1 "Tool for flashing Vbios in windows"
nvflash_dos 5.95.0.1 "Tool for flashing Vbios in dos"
and also this instructions
First unpack file to your prefired location

Then open folder USB Format "included in this folder is also boot98se"
(Make shore that all data on usbstick have bin saved to other location if you want to keep it)
1 connect usbstick to pc pref to a usb2.0
2 run usb format select your usb device in first drop down box "marked Device"
3 select Fat32 from second drop down box "marked File system"
(in volume label you dont need to put any thing if you dont want)
4 Tick in Quick Format
5 Tick in Create a Dos Bootable Disk
6 Click Browse
7 In the new window got to where ever you unpacked the file open usb format folder select
boot98se press OK
8 Press START "DONE"


Now to the rest

Copy all the files in "Clevo x7200 Sager_728BV08S OC MOD" Folder
to Usb.(is only needed if you want Sager unlockt oc bios)
Then copy all files from "X72_0806" Folder to Usb
and the content of "BIOS_09" (is only needed if you want latest Clevo basic non oc bios"
Restart PC and press F2 to enter BIOS setup select boot
and select your usb to first boot save and exit
when in Dos enviroment TYPE IN step1.bat that will flash EC
to 1.00.06
If you want the Unlockt Sager bios TYPE IN bios.bat
Or if you want the basic Clevo non oc bios TYPE IN step2.bat
If you want the latest Clevo basic non oc bios TYPE IN update.bat
Follow instruction on screen
Then your done!!!!

All cred for vBios goes to Mavke at MVKtech.net
All cred for Sager bios goes to kizwan at Forum notebook review

i Made this pack and instruction for a friend with limited english nohow
so its over simplefied i Know

 

Thanks you all !!!!!!! Excellent guide and great tips!!!! If I need help I will let you know!!!However, the Clevo x7200 is really a beast of power!!!

Thanks for your help !!

Greetings from Italy!!

 

Thanks for the guide, Torment! +1 Rep

 

Thanks for the Rep guys
and if it is some other soft you guys need just ask i might have it in terms of test suets and oc software and monitoring soft

 

@Aikimox
and
@babyhemi
Hi you guys are retailers of this peace of sexy machinary
so you guys might know some thing about this question i have is the Bclk multiple locked in BIOS or is it just that the Mobo cant handle the fully unlocked multiple Extreme CPU's
have bin trying to find out for a long time now and it has bin eating at me
since i would love to be able to oc the CPU with out tuching the Bclk
would realy love a answer so i can start thinking about some thing else

 

According to our engineering team it's locked But that's not 100%, let me do some digging and get back to ya.

 

Thanks m8 nice one
by the way im modding my cpu cooling and il document it and post it here and on the owners lounge its either be a 0.7 mm copper shims lapped on both sides and lapped cooler plate and cpu (CPU all ready lapped) or some thing much more difficult like move the copper cooling plate down ca 1mm then lapped of course .wright now i have a ca 0.1 to 0.2 mm gap betwen the CPU and cooling plate and the temps are right now on the top core 49c with arctic silver that are norm ca 2 to 3c hotter then IC diamond so with lapping and direct contact with cooling plate i hope to get ca 37 to 39c on top core
I would like to hear what you guys thoughts and ides as well about this .
and if you guys know about a good way to shift the cooling plate down pls tell me and if its not possible and you know this pls tell me as well since that would save me allot of testing to no good

 

Hello!! thanks to your overclock guide!! I managed to run the overclok in GTX 485M SLI !!! My score this is!!!

3DMark Vantage: 30289
3DMrak 06: 22311

The system is stable and presents no problem, I can play any game, fluid in full HD with detail very high as crysis!!!

Thank you all!!!!

 

Hi all,

In the interest of (myself) potential buyers of X7200s, could all these benchmarks scores be compiled into a Google spreadsheet? Along with very detailed machine specifications?

I saw a very useful use of Google docs on another forum where people purchasing new iMacs contributed delivery times along with detailed specs and location etc. so I have seen that it has good potential.

It would help show the exact differences between different builds.

Cheers!

Cheers!