Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

I can say with utmost certainty that SLI is not dependent on fullscreen at all, and OGL can use SLI in windowed mode. CrossfireX is the only tech that requires true fullscreen to be used in any situation. What is likely is that games/benches/etc that use OGL that you may have encountered simply don't support SLI at all, like anything on ID Tech 5 (Wolfenstein The New Order & The Old Blood, RAGE). If it uses SLI in fullscreen, it will use it in windowed mode. It's why I will never under any circumstances use two AMD cards. They need to fix that crap with Crossfire first and they know it, and don't feel like fixing it.

Isn't GPU-Z's PCI/e render test using OGL as well? That's a good example; though it needs forcing in drivers.

 

If it can and doesn't, then it's certainly as you say... meaning the half-assed developers dropped the ball and didn't have the intelligence or sense of obligation to allow themselves to be bothered enough to do things right. That being the case, the end result may have the same practical effect as if it did not support it. Incompetence overshadows everything.

As yes, CrossFire has been broken all along for the same reason... AMD is incompetent.

 

Yup, you've got it Mr. Fox! ID Tech 5 uses OGL but its megatextures were designed to not function in multi-GPU on the whole as it required too much bandwidth between the cards, if I remember correctly. In other words, if it was in DirectX, it would STILL not be capable of using multi-GPU. I suppose forcing it with two XDMA AMD cards might have enough bandwidth now, but as we know, they have nothing like nVidia Profile Inspector to do such forcing, so...

Also, for an OGL game that supported SLI, if you use the profile from 365.10 (I think this is the right driver) on DOOM, you'd get SLI working (as long as you don't use Nightmare shadows setting). If you have that game, feel free to give it a try whenever you get your P870DM3. Set it, note that it's using SLI in fullscreen, swap to windowed mode, see that it's still working, then come back and curse out ID Tech 5 some more

 

Nope. Only seen it here just recently.

Did you figure this out yet?

 

Designing an engine that way was very disappointing by ID, an engine should not exclude setups like that.

 

So if installing XTU thingy with CCC... IF doing this you get really good temps. but really bad noise and profile fans.

Using iobit unlocker and blocking the service from microsoft didn't work. Still looking for a solution witout format.

 

There is none. We even tried uninstalling XTU with Revo Uninstaller to get rid of all the remnants but nope, the damage to the fan tables goes down deep to the EC Firmware

The thing is, if one didn't know how the system behaves without XTU, he would think this is the norm, for the fans to randomly spin up but I immediately noticed as things were very diff. after installing XTU and I cannot live with having my fans go on full blast randomly while browsing the web in a simple forum

 

Interesting...Mine does not do this spin up randomly while browsing web sites. Not even while sitting there for an hour. I have been trying to recreate that.

 

I've run multiple tests, and with XTUfan profiles, it will spin up at lighter workloads, it won't spin up randomly, but when actually loading the pages, then it's silent again. But it does spin up on workloads that are a bit too light - so this is best kept in mind - at least this is how it is for me.

Without XTU fan profiles, the fans don't spin as fast, and it gets much hotter.

With XTU fan profiles, you can keep the laptopy under 85C CPU playing mirror's edge. and under 75C on GPU regardless of load.

 

Yeah it doesn't happen on all laptops which is a mystery, like on @Shakeeb Anjum 's P775DM3, he doesn't have this problem even with the latest CCC installed v83 that contains XTU

 

the main issue is, it spins up when there is CPU load but that shouldn't be the determining factor, it should only spin up when it reaches a certain thermal threshold which I think is the main issue here.

Maybe it's fixed with the latest version v83 as @Shakeeb Anjum doesn't have this issue on his P775DM3

 

What XTU fan profiles? Where are these at?? I feel real silly not being able to find these XTU fan profiles. Can you point me to them??

Maybe try the new XTU 6.2 that is out. And see if it does the same thing....

I'm going to try loading the V83 and see if there is a change.

 

I don't need XTU ever bro, I have the Prema BIOS, it's for those who don't have it like the people who bought the latest Clevo laptops so they can tinker with overclocking/underovlting till the Prema BIOS is out.

I won't test the new XTU because if it messes up my fan profiles, it's a full day of work to format and install all my apps

 

Sorry to hear you couldn't make it work on yours. That is unfortunate.

And what you are saying is you have a prema bios on your laptop right now?

 

Oh I've had the Prema BIOS from day one bro, you probably don't remember but I sold back my old P870DM to HIDevolution and got a Eurocom Sky X9 but through them just so I can have the Prema BIOS but still have their great warranty and customer service, this was back then when they weren't a Prema partner so I told them to order a Sky X9 for me as they have good relations with Eurocom and it ended up being cheaper than getting it from Eurocom directly

 

The reason I asked was because I was looking at your over clock and 4.6ghz is pretty low for a prema bios. His is usually standard 4.8 ghz. So I assumed you were on a stock bios. My mistake.

 

This worked for me, YMMV.

1. Kill CCC and all associated processes.
2. Delete (or rename) the CPU/RAM OC utility executable.
3. Disable the XTU service, then delete the folder it lives in. If there are still files you can't delete, restart in safe mode, then delete the whole folder.
4. Shut down, then NVRAM reset.

shots fired

 

well here are my settings, I feel I have hit the limit here as I reach 90C after 3 mins AIDA64 stress test:

IC Diamond using the X Cross Method
Adaptive CPU voltage -20mV on Core/Ring
System Agent -20mV
Power Limit 1,2, 3, 4 = 300000
all VR Current limits = 8191
Turbo Power Max = 210000
Turbo Short Power Max = 210000
Intel Speed Shift = Disabled
RSR = Enabled


If I set the voltage offset more, to let's say -30mV, it won't be stable, if I set it a bit higher to let's say -10mV or 0, then the temps go out of control

PS: My CPU is a Silicon Lottery 6700K rated at 4.8GHz but that's in a desktop obviously

 

Lottery smottery...LOL

I'm not buying into that, I feel you should be with the rest of us! 4.6 is not an option.

Hit me up and maybe we do a teamviewer session to see about getting that cpu where it needs to be. Because....Don't take this wrong, but i feel you are disrespecting a prema bios. Just kidding!

 

thanks, let's see your magic brah!

PM sent

 

Magic Seen. LOL

 

Thanks to @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER he showed me how to overclock to 4.8 GHz and polished my overclocking skills. Now I have a lot of new stuff to play with

 

EVOC P870DM3 - Intel Skylake i7-6700K @ 4.6GHz |<---- something seems to be wrong here....

 

Fixed , Intel Skylake i7-6700K @ 4.8GHz - Powered by the legendary John

 

Nah, I only added on to what @Mr. Fox started.

 

Strange, when I sert the voltage to static in the BIOS to a value of 1250, the clock speeds were fluctuating between 1.2 GHz and 4.1 GHz

I then returned it to adaptive voltage and installed XTU, but the part where you can select static or adaptive is greyed out, what givves

 

ok now it's unlocked after I set it to static in the BIOS

 

Now Kith?
He never offered to help me , when I was struggling :'(






J/k

 

He's an awesome person to talk to and very patient just like Mr. Fox I almost thought they are related

 

Oh I'm sure he is.
By the time he reached out to help me I managed to sort things out.

He and @Mr. Fox , great people they are.
Now only if John cared about people's feelings...

By people I mean , me. And not face raping me with his benchmarks.

 

We are related. @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER must have forgotten to tell you. He's my brother from another mother. We both enjoy helping good people like you. You're always bending over backwards to help other people.

Thank you. I appreciate the kind words. That's mutual... you're a great person as well. Glad to call you a friend.

He does care. He cares a lot. He just has a lower tolerance for stupid than I do. I don't know how he has been able to put up with me for so long.

 

Ba dum *cheeeese* xD

 

That's the best type of caring IMO.
I was just trying to push his buttons and referring to his pulling out the big guns, next to my measily pee shooter scores.

 

Man, I don't know how I still use the internet, with my intolerance for stupid. I think I'm easily top 5 stupid-intolerant on this forum

 

I'll share the settings with you only once I have finalized them as I need to do a lot of testing and preferably when my new taptop arrives God knows when

They didn't even start building my taptop they are aquiring the parts from the bushes

 

+1 for bloodhawk being a super helpful fella.

 

@bloodhawk What are you talking about? You helped me. With all things thunderbolt. So I say, Thank you sir!!

@Mr. Fox My brother from another mother. One of my best friends around! Always has and always will be!

Did some testing...

 

Nice bump on the memory clocks. I can hardly wait to see what you'll accomplish with @Prema BIOS. I'm confident that some of the settings that I've not been able to figure out the purpose for you'll be able to shed some light on.

 

I have pretty much seen them all. Which settings?

 

Not a lot, really. Mainly just a few of the advanced VR settings related to things like TDC, PSYS, PS3/4, PMON and IMON slope, etc. that many hours of Google searching have only lead to dead ends and left me empty-handed. Not being able to find any useful information about them leaves me wondering if not knowing what I don't know even matters. They may not be useful or important for overclocking, but having the knowledge is always good. What little bit of published information I have been able to find, including the smathering of mumbo-jumbo found in desktop motherboard manuals, has proven to been utterly meaningless and worthless.

I'll reach out once we both have the BIOS in place. There could be some minor differences between the DM-G and DM2_3 firmware. There are three things I am hoping we will have working for us in the firmware on the new machines that we could not get to work correctly on the DM-G models. Those are the Intel ICC menu controls for BCLK and Spread Spectrum adjustments, saving settings to a custom user profile like we could on the P570WM, and a menu to disable Intel Watchdog Timer. Having the memory voltage unlocked would also be nice, but the other things would be more useful.

 

The main ones wanted out of that is the Intel ICC menu controls for BCLK and Spread Spectrum adjustments
pspy - https://downloadmirror.intel.com/26211/eng/CCV_0039_Release Notes.pdf - looks to usb stuff
Pmon/Imon - https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1048105/Supero-C7z170-Sq.html?page=97 vrm stuff
tdc - Thermal design current for a specified device or sensor....most of the time
tdp - Thermal design power
Not sure about ps settings. I think they have to do with power supply rail controls, but don't quote me on that.

 

Now if you all could get those memory sticks to run at 1T.... THAT would be something.

 

We can. it only needs to be flashed.

 

At those clocks and timings? Mmm

When you get your hands on a Prema Mod, wanna see if you can manage 14-14-14-34-T1 at 3000MHz? That'd be pretty close to the desktop parts, even if we need 1.35v for it. At that point I'd start calling things a straight upgrade from what we can achieve on DDR3.

 

I think I would rather see you do that. Isn't the P370SM3 capable of this? It has to at least be able to do 2400?

And you are trying to see if this is possible?
http://www.gskill.com/en/finder?cat...34-2N&series=2481&prop_14=DDR4&prop_3=3200MHz

 

That is interesting!

Maybe the thermal threshold is considerably lower with the XTU ?

The fan profiles - I've no idea where they are, but when CCC is installed the fans spin much easier with load, and considerably faster.

Without XTU CCC, the fans will spin but slower, and the CPU will overheat...

 

Any idea if we can NVRam reset easily, without taking the CMOS out? OR at least on P775, for a way to take that CMOS out without having to take out the motherboard? IT's not a simple CMOS now and it's attached using a connector to the motherboard, seems incredibly complicated to take out and to put back in place...

 

Don't know, I don't own a 775.

 

So, while I am waiting for Alienkiller R2 while @Ted@HIDevolution and @Donald@HIDevolution get it ready to ship, I decided to get a couple of extra things ready for it.

For a discount almost 50% I couldn't resist Corsair's offer on this...


And, I went ahead and spent a little time giving my U3 a bit more lung capacity for the 1080 SLI. @Papusan

 

Welcome to the mech family, butt tbh if you dont want RGB, there are a few cheaper options available with excellent build quality.


Those rubber feet look so much more elegant , time or me to retire my trusty old foam paddings