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Thanks, bro.

No, I got it specifically because it is RGB. I only got it because it was so deeply discounted. There's no way in hell I would spend the normal price for a K70 or K95. $99 is borderline insane already for a keyboard IMHO, but $90 off made it reasonable. I don't like it when somebody else decides what color I want. Otherwise, I would have just purchased one without backlighting. I like white, green or yellow backlighting. Most of the static backlighting on gamer-boy keyboards is red or blue. I also like that the keyboard chassis is aluminum rather than plastic. A lot of the better keyboards that I know of are still plastic keyboard housing. I'll set up the K95 macro keys like I used to with my Alienware systems, where my Precision X, NVIDIA Inspector scripts and ThrottleStop profiles are assigned a one-touch macro key for on-the-fly one-key clock changes.

 

Oh yeah. That is a definitely a great price. I used to have the non RGB Cherry MX Red version off the K90/K95 (dont quite remember), but back then they had serious QC issues so i ended up returning it after a few of my LED's failed. They seemed to have improved things by a lot since then.
99% Mechanical keyboards now a days have a 90% metal construction. Even 100% metal for the high end ones.
I recently picked up the Tesoro Gram Spectrum for $110, loving the low travel distance.

 

Yes, I read about those LED failures and held off on even thinking about a K7X/9X-series keyboard because of that. It does seems to be resolved now, as most of the complaints are not recent. I hope so. If not, I will RMA or just turn off the backlighting. I suspect the refurbished ones like what I bought had the bad LED key modules replaced with the newer ones.

@bloodhawk, is the difference between the Gram and Excalibur mostly the shorter keystroke? I see Amazon has the Excalibur on sale for $69.99, which also seems like a decent option.

Tesoro Excalibur Spectrum G7SFL Red Mechanical Switch Single Individual Per Key Full Color RGB LED Backlit Illuminated Mechanical Gaming Keyboard TS-G7SFL (RD)

 

Then that would be CCC controlling the first line fan tables. XTU itself does not have fan control unfortunately.....

 

Finally you made it And very easy to clean on top of those fan blades, now that you have those big nice holes.
I waiting for my 3 new 3000rpm EK - Vardar fans. Not the cheapest one, but I will pay gladly if I like the products
I have also the 2200rpm version of the same fans. Happy with the quality.

Performance characteristics:
- Max Air Flow: 107 CFM = 181 m³/h
- Static Pressure: 5.81mm H2O = 57 Pa
See video
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-furious-vardar-ff5-120-3000rpm

A nice deal. But Damn expensive here home

 

Yes, it would be nice if XTU could have that, but there are so many desktop and notebooks variances it might be difficult to make that work correctly even if they wanted to.

I haven't seen any P870DM3 owners having fan issues like the DM-G had. I plan to explore that as soon as I get mine. I'm wondering if that got fixed, or maybe it mysteriously fixed itself on the P870DM3. It seems like maybe the P775DM3 still has some kind of weird conflict with XTU. Maybe it is something goofed up in the EC, or maybe it could be something with how newer versions of XTU store things in NVRAM that is not playing nice with the P775DM3. Whatever the reason the P775DM3 fans are acting stupid, that's a shame.

 

I am thinking of combining the aquaero xt fan controller into my stand along with the lighting module, have strips down the sides for under lighting. Then you could have the temperature sensors under the machine, under the stand and one on each exhaust so the module is aware of input and output temps and program the fan curve and change the lighting accordingly.

 

@Mr. Fox @bloodhawk @Papusan @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER

Right, so 4.8 GHz was not very stable for most benchmarks so I settled on 4.7 GHz

Here is the FireStrike with a +100 MHz GPU / +200 MHz. Memory

 

Stop teasing and PM the good stuff
I'll tweak em.

 

PM sent

 

Ma manh.

 

please do not use the forum to upload images, it appears broken for me

 

Your internet speed is too fast bro

 

100 MBPS Down / 20 MBPS up

 

I know this machine can get 2400MHz, but I don't think I'll get much higher.

Yes, I'm trying to see if that desktop memory's specs can work on the laptop sticks. Hence why I asked if it was possible after the Prema mod =D. Though, I'm comfortable if it's done at 3000MHz instead of 3200MHz.

 

That's a whole lot better than most people have. I hope the 1,000MB/s service comes to my area soon. 150MB/s doesn't seem fast any more after you get used to it.

 

Ah that's probably because you have Cox communications... they are well known for throttling and spotty service among streamers. To be fair, this is true of many other US companies, but cox I see relatively the most problems about.

 

Only 155 Mb/s more than me I was promised +60 this summer. But no, not this summer either

 

Well, it usually tests out fine, at or above the speed I am paying for. But, I don't do any online MP gaming or streaming from PC. I was mainly referring to taking it for granted and getting numb to the higher speed when I said it doesn't seem fast any more. I can definitely tell a massive difference if I go somewhere else and have to use an "ordinary" high speed connection. That always feels horrible and makes me glad for what I have when I get home again.

Cox is the only decent option. The only other option is crappy CenturyLink DSL and the best they can offer in this area is pathetic 12 to 20MB/s maximum DL speeds, even for business accounts.

Looks like it is off a bit today. Local servers are sluggish. Had to check using Mojave, CA instead of Tempe today.

 

And SVL7's internet....1 gbps up and down.

I know you are not still benching at the cafe right?

While we wait for that to happen, we are waiting on you to run 2400 @ 10-11-11-34.

 

at first I thought it was the cafe but even at home, it wasn't much better. Mind you, it's freezing here in the cafe so it's not exactly a hot place as you would imagine

 

What are the codes you are getting when it crashes?

 

oops, the last crash actually corrupted my Windows but luckily I had taken a full backup using Macrium Reflect so I restored that.

I'll fiddle around with it more once I receive my new taptop and have another go at 4.8 GHz I'm hoping it would be better due to the vapor chamber heatsink

 

I have that as well as system restore usually fixes it and takes only a few minutes, but some times you do need to have a bootable os flash drive.

If it's not holding, then the laptop itself is not cold enough. Benching for records take some effort. And if the temps are fine, then it's one of the voltages. There may be more of a difference between the DMG and the DM2/3.

 

Say no to RAID. Stop data cruelty. Or something.

I personally havent had any data / windows corruption. But I'm sure it can happen.

For this reason I have a separate install of Windows juat for benchmarking. With the bootloader on a different drive.

 

That's why I turn off that caching in windows.....

 

What benchmarks used when the machine crash?

 

wPRIME

The crash was so bad that it took 3 tries to boot up the system and even get to the BIOS screen, then a lot of files were not even showing icons like wPRIME's icon was blank white

 

yes I won't do RAID on my new taptop and hopefully my wPRIME scores will be higher since I feel they are a bit high for the clock speed I have now. Heck I am close to Papusan clock speed wise but his wPRIME scores are from another realm!

 

Maybe start with the soft bench in Cpu-z? See what happen. Wprime 32 or 1024M?
Ps. One of my best Wprime 1024M scores was with raid

 

I have been running RAID0 for many years without incident and all of the OS corruption issues I had with the Sky X9 started and ended with NVMe. After I ditched NVMe I have never encountered another problem with OS corruption ever again... RAID0 or otherwise. I had as many problems with that in AHCI as I did with RAID0. After I went back to normal SSD formatted as MBR disks all of the over-the-top stupid bullcrap I was dealing with in terms of OS corruption using NVMe drives instantly evaporated. I am not convinced the absurd premium charged for NVMe is a reasonable value, and not having issues to deal with makes me reluctant to give NVMe a second chance even after the prices come down to what they should be.

 

I haven't caught @Papusan nor @iunlock when it comes to prime or cinebench. And that is with a higher over clock.

Well, you better get past that and figure it out because nvme is quite a bit faster when moving around from drive to drive and loading and reloading. They will max out network connections and using TB3 networking...Oh man! 67 gigis in 1 minute and 18 seconds.

Edit.
@bloodhawk
That's why i want the pcie to thunderbolt. So i can run my backups off of nvme drives.

 

all NVMe SSDs do is give you higher benchmark scores and slower boot time.

My Wife's 3 year old Dell Vostro boots into Windows in 8 seconds from the moment you hit the power button. My taptop boots in like 30 seconds on Windows 10 and about 55 seconds on Windows 7

 

Yeah wPrime needs every last CPU cycle you can squeeze out.
And @Papusan is amazing at optimizing.
Btw. I'm booting Windows 7 off of my nvme drive in UEFI and the boot time is about 13 seconds.

 

Seriously???? how did you do that?

Just basic integration of the NVMe Driver then install the Samsung NVMe driver v1.1?

 

Why bother with newer NVMe ssd's as you thought?

 

Heh, we'll see then I guess. I just need to be not lazy I guess

 

Mine from completely off is 20 seconds on the asus, but 10 of that is the bios loading.
Instant on is like 2 seconds.

He is running raid 0

 

Yeah slipstreamed the USB 3 and Nvme drivers.
And installed Windows 7 with the BIOS set to UEFI + CSM .
This way I don't get the annoying select OS screen and I can boot into Windows 7 only when I want to. There is a way to get the boot selection screen though. I just don't like it.

 

I could not get that usb 3.0 driver thing to work for nothing in the world. I slipstreamed a bunch of 3.0 driver versions to be able to cover them all. And when it booted, I would lose keyboard and mouse functions. Any ideas what I was doing wrong???

 

I know that. But he is thinking soon to buy the newest NVMe ssd's. What benefits can be done with faster ssd's in raid? None.

 

I'll do it for you over TeamViewer bro. I owe you big time

You must have a Windows 7 machine to do this otherwise the process never ends. If that's not an option, we can do it through a Windows 7 installed in a VM although it requires more work

 

I am buying them just to increase the storage and have the best possible speeds

 

I understand you wanna increase storage with raid But raid the newest, fastest NVMe wouldn't give much faster speed than from a single one

 

I just used the Windows 7 USB 3.0 tool from Intel and that solved it. I gave a link to that tool to @Trafficante and he had no more issues with Windows 7 after that.

Here is a link to it. https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25476/Windows-7-USB-3-0-Creator-Utility

Just run it on your USB installation media and it will insert what you need for USB 3.0. I manually installed NVMe drivers during setup like I do Intel RST F6 drivers. I never have slipstreamed those drivers because I did not need to.

If you run that USB 3.0 tool using GPT disks under W10 it will take a long time to complete for some reason (or not complete if you're unlucky like @Phoenix has been). If you run W10 on MBR disks like I do, it finishes in the same amount of time as W7. Not sure why that is.

Yes, there is no disputing NVMe is MUCH faster, but I don't want or need extra hassles to deal with. And, from what I could tell, NVMe did nothing at all to make my CPU or GPU benchmark scores any better (did not expect it to). I love looking at the NMVe benchmark scores and did notice file copying was much snappier. But, for those reasons I already mentioned, I don't want to waste money on SSD storage that costs double what it should on top of dealing with pain in the ass crap like I had to put up with before. To me it's just not worth it to pay the same price for a 256GB NVMe as a 512GB M.2 SSD. Now, if NVMe made my CPU and GPU benchmark scores higher, then I would jump on it in spite of the asinine rape on the pricing.

 

Okay, sounds good.

Let that go. Trust me on this. I already know why. @Papusan

 

so shall I just go for the SanDisk x400 1TB instead (2 of em that is)?

 

BTW @Mr. Fox @bloodhawk

Windows 7 is not an option on the new P870DM3 as Sager doesn't have Windows 7 drivers for it like they do for the P870DM

That means we will have trouble with the Fingerprint scanner and/or the touchpad drivers

 

You should do whatever you think is best. I think the X400 SSDs offer tremendous value and NVMe drives offer horrible value due to being grossly overpriced. The cheapest out there seem to be double the cost per GB.

Yeah, but I literally don't care about that because I don't get my drivers from Clevo or Sager. And, I don't use the fingerprint reader or touchpad. I don't need them to work right as long as they don't have a problem status in Device Manager. After I am done installing drivers I disable the touchpad in the Synaptic software. I have never used the touchpad on the P750ZM or the P870DM-G that I sold. I wish Clevo would stop selling machines with fingerprint readers, or make them an add-on for an extra charge. I'd rather not have it or the TPM module on my machines. I have no use for either of those things. They are just wasting IRQ space and their drivers are cluttering the OS.

Plus, it's not true Windows 7 is not an option. There are P870DM3 owners running Windows 7. @Trafficante and @Swick1981 are two that I know personally.

Windows 7 will always be an option until Windows 10 beats it at everything, and until Windows 10 doesn't suck any more it will continue to be an undesirable POS OS to me.