Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

Yup, tree-hugger fairies are castrating stuff to reduce power consumption. The people that think this is a smart thing to do deserve to have a lobotomy performed with a dirty screwdriver. There should be nothing in the EC to "manage" power. The CPU and GPU(s) should be allowed to uncontrollably gulp down every watt of power that it wants to (or we tell it to) willy-nilly, with no restraints of any kind.

Dang, P31,851 in 3DMark 11! Sweet!!! That's not helping me be patient for mine to arrive, LOL.

 

Of course, as long as we have enough input power!

200W on GPU + 90W on CPU = 290W without a ton of OC.

 

I'm looking for more like 275W+ per GPU and hoping for 125W+ on CPU.

 

LOL... I have no idea. They've got quite a backlog of orders to fill. I am hoping it ships on Monday. I think a Tornado F5 should be heading my way next week as well. I'm really looking forward to putting that little 15-inch monsterbook through the stress testing.

 

Is that even possible with a single brick since the power brick is rated at 330W?

 

Yes. And we all have dual 330W rms psu's. Capable of 880W.

 

Super cool!

Can't wait to see the new OC options!

 

@Prema @Mr. Fox @ajc9988 @bloodhawk

I have one of those 75Hz LG displays and I feel the need to ask this. I get flicker on it. How do I solve it? It's present only on very dark images - for example when UAC promts something - it's visible all around the question window. Also, it seems present only at 100% brightness.

It's not the first batch - I'm talking about the 75Hz FHD screen that has been around since the first P870 and P775... I'm actually shocked that no one noticed it until now... It happened on two different displays - so It's not a coincidence.

Full name is: LG Display LP173WF4-SPF1

I think I had the same display inside Acer VN7-791G from 2014 - it was not having this problem - so it's something power or image processing related.

EDIT::: Major difference is that when I used to have the Acer - the image was always going through the iGPU - so this might explain it - ergo at least partially.

 

No flicker here. If you can make a video of it maybe, we can narrow down whats going on.

 

It's extremely erratic, sometimes happens, sometimes not.

I took a video, but there are a ton of other artifacts from the camera that are much more visible.

How do I put it. It feels like it's going between in between two distant shades of the same color.

I sampled the color - to show on what BG it's happening. The color is #282c34 or 40 44 52 (RGB) or 77 68 56 60 on CMYK.

I've also got some screen burn in after two weeks of owning the display - it happens again on full brightness - for example if browsing 9gag or facebook - and it disappears after playing a few videos. It's very visible on this exact shade - #282c34

Do I have a knockoff - or I'm way more sensitive than most people?

 

I have pretty much the exact same panel in the G752VS. LP173WF4-SPF3.

I'll have to take a closer look at it to see if i see what you see, but as of right now it seems perfectly clear.

 

The screen burn in is visible on virtually anything - even photoshop - but the flicker seems to be visible only in some software - so I guess it's a video card sampling problem somewhere. I'm running tests at the momenr, the only clear conclusion that I can find is that whatever is causing it, it's only affecting certain things - photoshop with the exact shade doesn't get the exact same effect - and atom - the software that really causes it - has screen tearing - which is really abnormal since I'm already using G-sync and it should work on any drawn surface...

 

Do you mean SPF4? I didn't know of a SPF3 being certed for Gsync

 

My madVR reads the Id of the display as LG Display LP173WF4-SPF1

 

Yeah I actually meant to say SPF1 I don't know why I typed 4...

Wot is that.

And now I enter the part where I don't know laptops anymore apparently.

 

Best help I can ask for - Can you test if it happens in Atom ?

https://atom.io/

The question is if it happens on dark text editors. the program is a simple code editing tool - but seems something is not working right and I'm trying to trace back what...

 

Initial thoughts are signal clipping or something similar, are you using a 3D LUT when it happens?

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Ok, so I looked into the panels. It seems, as far as I can figure out, the LP173WF4-SPF1 and LP173WF4-SPF3 are the same panel. The model number is different, certainly, but as far as I can see the specs are basically the same http://www.panelook.com/modelcompare.php?ids=27611,21056

 

I never once saw a problem with that panel on the Sky X9 or my own P870DM-G. It was an excellent display and never gave me anything to complain about. Nor have I seen anyone else complain of flickering. Maybe there is something wrong with your panel or eDP cable.

 

@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER you have LN2 cooling
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/54528/core-i7-7700k-hits-6-7ghz-ln2-i5-7600k-5-1ghz-air/index.html

 

Me too, at first I thought I had a flickering panel but it turned out that the old Need For Speed: Most Wanted was causing the flickering, I fixed it by forcing it to render at 75 FPS but I guess what Georgy is facing is something different

 

There goes my Dewar being filed at air gas.

 

Seems that only UAC screen and Atom dark color causes flickering... After 3 hours of intense testing, the same color does not produce flicker in photoshop.

But there is screen burn in visible on certain shades of grey...

It's very very slight and it's not visible on white or black, only on some very dark grays...

The panel is pretty good otherwise.

I guess that I have some burn in because I'm using chrome black - and it causes screen burn in right around the address bar because the adress bar is white and the surrounding is black... Seems better after using chrome classic. Still testing.

Chrome ultra beta doesn't work with google drive, so I came back to Chrome normal - I feel that the problems with GIF images I have are due to either my GPU being broken - or the drivers.;

 

Not using 3DLUT but since it only happens in some software - I'm looking into how to fix it.

Seems that the color is right between two shades and it flickers in between, like water waves on a lake or something - not typical flicker. Especially annoying since I'm coding.

I'll try a new GPU driver and see if it's still there, though I'm reluctant to install GPU drivers - not to break my actual config - which is stable.

 

The pascal clevo have EC power limitation?

Similar case to old P870 that had error with EC programming that limited the cpu to low clockspeed?

 

Known problem with current nVidia drivers. Not your card.

I will say though that if you're getting burn-in on a brand new machine, you should replace that screen. I started getting burn-in (that I have to watch out for and take steps against it repeating infrequently) on my machine, but that was after nearly 3 years of almost 24/7 being-on-usage. Your machine is what, 2 months old or less?

 

Again if a Chrome beta fixes it. Then how can it be your GPU ?
I don't mean to be rude, but you need to stop panicking, and think for a second.
I even mentioned the same thing in a different thread, that it's an issue related to Chromes new VP9 implementation.

 

Yes just as we discovered in the DM1 during sli (980m) the CPU package power was limited resulting in dropped frame rates during higher cpu dependant processes.

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Did that get fixed by ec updAte or prema?

 

It was addressed by Mr. Fox and Prema for me, I believe their was some sort of update that help it but I am unsure as I ran the modded versions.

 

When does Clevo ever fix anything?

 

Ah, good to know. Wonder if it happens with the non sli model too?

 

550W was the max sustained load (with the odd peak) I had with the GPUs hard modded to remove the primary power restriction.

 

550W per GPU, or total system draw? 550W per GPU would be insane, and 550W total system draw seems way too low for 1080 SLI.

 

True. I'd expect nearly a kilowatt of power delivery for 1080 SLI to work reliably. At this rate, we need better power bricks. Maybe get Corsair to shrink 1 kW into the SFX form factor or something?

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I don't think my 5960X and sli 1080 pulled more than 800W with gpus maxed on water and cpu at about 70 percent over clocked on phase change cooling.

Can you screen shot hwinfo after doing a 3dmark11 test 1 and then wprim155 run showing CPU and GPU?

Thanks.

Edit
495W/Windows 7/CypberPower UPS

 

550W per GPU is impossible. It has to be system draw. If both cards are 190W and the CPU pulls around 100W under load in a test, and add 30-odd watts for the system, 550W checks out. It's not like the cards are at 2200 with 1.2v or anything

 

Pretty close.
I figure he is pulling about 65W to 85W for cpu. And about 225W per gpu. Given that his cpu is only at 4.6 ghz. He is power modded.

 

I think 225W is a bit much. I think not more than 220 per card.

 

His cards have been power modded. So it could be possible. Have to wait and see if he post about it. I don't like guessing when we have members that can 100 percent verify things.

 

2x220W + 75W, and the rest 35W = 550W. It all depends on whether the processor pull much less than 75W in bench

 

How many watts do you think they pull now?

 

Not sure but with a decent overclock... Maybe a little under 500W. Depends if you run max overclock on processor and whether you can use ok voltage. You have probably the answers on this

 

Nah, I was just curious. making sure i'm not missing anything.

Although I just tested furmark and still was not able to push gpus over 193W.

 

Have you tried 4.6 GHz + max OC on graphics in 3DM11? Aka same processor OC as @Meaker@Sager if I remember correct. Pull from 550W and you probably have the answer. If you not already have tried this. And if this is the benchmark he used.
What is the max you have pulled from the wall (what showed max per card?). Maybe I have seen it, but can't remember

Edit NotebookCheck tested a non K 6700 and gpu's in stress test. The processor pulled 45W package power. Total power draw was 490W.

 

I can't pull past 500W. 496W Max. And 4.6 ghz it's lower. Like 480W or so. (Talking from the wall)
Hwinfo shows a max of 193W, but it also drops the gpus down to like 1780 on core (loss of over 300+) when running furmark. So no where near where it's suppose to run.
Factory gpus are capped, but once you remove the power limit. Then they are allowed to run up to the voltage max of 1.065V optimal instead of wasted. This is the gpu voltage cap.

I'm thinking those extra 25+ watts per card is helping to balance them out as meaker said.

 

Yeah. You have probably right
I edited my post above. NotebookCheck took out 490W with a non K processor. This with only 45.5W from processor (At least what the picture show in the stress test). That you take out only 6W more with maxed Oc on processor is surprising.

 

Yeah, probably something like that. Skylake really doesn't pull so much compared to Blast Furnace. But yeah, 225W give or take could be right, though I suspect it's a bit closer to what Papusan said. Or we could simply be misjudging what his PC requires to display everything, who really knows.

I don't think I've ever seen a Pascal card perform well in Furmark, honestly. They all hit some form of throttling that isn't temperature, for the most part. I suspect you might get a way around that, but even so, I think it breaks the "efficiency" that the GPU is supposed to have, and the TDP or voltage limits start to show up.

 

That is interesting indeed.

Your right, I don't think i seen that happen either with 1080's

Finally got one good run in