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I want to know the detail of this "power mod" @Meaker@Sager mentions so we can do something about it. Nothing the monkies from NVIDIA give us is going to function correctly out of the box. They've proven time and time again that their firmware engineering talent is mojo deficient.

 

Nice!!! Now I just need to know where that resistor is on the mobile 1080 and 1070.

Have you already tested this yet, Brother John? Using the liquid metal should be easier and more durable than the pencil mod, too.

 

Indeed nothing fancy just more delicate work on the mobile cards.

There are three labelled on the PCB which I have pointed out before. Anyone else thinking about this please be careful as this allows the cards to consume a fair amount more.

I believe @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER wants to wait for the more elegant vbios based solution.

 

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Don't need a vbios mod anymore.Once you do that, the cards power is unlocked, but the voltage is still locked. And that can not be unlocked using a vbios mod. As far as I remember.

Wasn't sure I was actually going to keep it, so everything is still stock. I think you and I are like the only ones with Sager Notebooks. Or at least posters with one.

 

When u say voltage locked you are speaking of the Pascal ceiling of 1.25v correct? Do you see the mobile vbios allowing power limit and voltage pct increase as the desktop cards allow today?

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Seems to be some misconceptions about all that.
1.25V maxx if you hard mod it and have LN2.
1.093V factory hard coded.
1.063V Mobile hard coded.
1.4V+ if you super hard mod it. Epower board.
There are no vbios mods enabling the voltage above 1.093V Desktop cards.

Now if you want to attempt to go higher....
From the words of the great TinTin & Kingpin
https://xdevs.com/guide/pascal_oc/#voltsc

Lots of exaggerations about that 1.25V and how to obtain that....
Hope that helps to put it in the proper perspective.

 

Hmm with a custom vBIOS (XOCUnlocked_t4) my 1080 Strix easily goes to 1.131 @ 2088Mhz.
and for games stays at 1.125 @ 2025Mhz-2050Mhz.
Peak power draw i have seen without any hard mods has been 288W.
Sustained was about 269W during FS Ultra @ 2050MHZ.

Im sure it stays stable at about 1.093 for 2012Mhz. With the stock OC vBIOS. (1936 Boost). The increased wattage is probably because of the higher voltage.

Can't say I understand Pascal Overclocking just yet, specially because 2025 MHz @ 1.125/1.112 V performs way better (Higher fps in FS / OVERWATCH / DOOM) , compared to the similar clock speed at 1.093/1.063 V.
The temperature difference is about 4C at max 75% fan speeds.

 

Not sure what is going on with your card? I could do 2.114 to 2.135 Ghz on 1.093V with my desktop 1080's.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9100460
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9100316

And they never showed anything higher than 1.093V. So just imagine what I could have done with that extra voltage... And that was with the modified vbios.

Did you measure with a volt meter?

 

Nope havent taken it apart yet or probed it. The multi meter I had is busted to gotta a new one as well. I have a feeling it because its connected externally, something is off or weird.
I'm also left confused a lot of times, the cards chew through FS Ultra at 2088 @1.093 on stock BIOS. But crashes to no end on the unlocked BIOS at the same clocks even with 1.131v.
The temps are yet to go over 65C. Could it be that the readings are wrong ? Specially since it's connected over m.2/externally?

I'll slap it into a desktop in a week or so to test accurately.
Are those FE's?

 

I'm just amazed that in the link John sent the guy said how Pascal cards are "moderately cool".

Wat.

Where?

Fermi was cooler.

 

EXACTLY.

Even though that was EVGA's fault with their crap ACX cooler they didn't adjust for the new cards and just slapped on to save $$. Kind of like what Gigabyte did with their Aero 14. And Razer with their Blade 14.

 

I don't think it's as common of an issue as people may think it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/com...ging_of_evga_gtx_1070_ftw_under_load/d96jcxn/

 

Nice! Okay so here's something I put together that may help us located the magic co-ordinance on the GTX 1080 Just had to take it out and snap pictures haha...I have close ups too if needed.

This should help us narrow it down...there are only so many places that I see of those resistors...hmm

For the team and cause! Cheers

Oh? So if the voltage remains locked still then no go eh?....

 

Great stuff! For a moment I was expecting to see a 6820HK there in the CPUZ lol ...jk... jk...inside joke

 

well ill be damned, switching from devils canyon to skylake is quite the experience, working my way up to 5ghz basically required burying myself in snow and ice with the 4790k, whereas the 6700k barely needs a repaste *lol* kudos to @Papusan, after my first few cinebench runs it made me appreciate his efficiency in squeezing out those CB points thus far at 1024 CB15 at 4.7, lets see what 4.8 will bring...

also, TDP means crap, already broke 121W (cpu only) like its nothing, wtf! with kaby lake improving on that, should be quite the ride...dayum

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

 

Yeah hes a beast at optimizing. The closest i got to him was 11.65 in CB11.5 and 1061 in CB15 @4.8Ghz.
Hes even more of a monster @ wPrime.

 

Because that is way to much voltage. The cards can run like .0760 or something like that.
And the bios may not be for guys on air. It might be better suited for water. Speculation of course.

I only see two that are viable and they are sitting right next to the power plug. Not sure where the 3rd one is.

I'm going to get back to that project in a few days.

 

This isn't the fully unlocked LN2 BIOS. Only with the Temps and power limits (soft) removed.

 

I'm sort of not understanding then? Where does the 1.13V come in at if it's only power and temp modded?

 

Well thats why im confused as well.
This is during Doom. (Here is the BIOS : CLICK)

 

Mine wont show the voltage, but do something like this.


Although, when i did that with my 980 TI Classified, the voltage read 1.275, but was actually 1.35V or 1.1 when not in use.....

 

Thanks
You should be more like +1045 CB15 at 4.7 GHz. How do you like Skylake vs Hot fury 4790K? A better overclocker or better temp vs. your Devils canyon? And yeah, You will get a lot of fun with 6700K And Kaby lake is on his way!!

Here is an improved Wprime 1024M - 131.918 sec score @Phoenix
http://hwbot.org/submission/3357625...re_i7_6700k_2min_11sec_918ms?recalculate=true


Improved from 132.237 and now finally under 132.xxx sec in wprime 1024M
A new monster of @wprime 1024M @bloodhawk Yes the processor operate ok in my BGA-KILLER I think

 

Here you go :



And with stock BIOS:

 

Hummm, yeah, something is wrong. With that kind of voltage and the right temps you should be able to hit 2200 easy.

And also...It looks like it shoots to 1.131 when nothing is going on or no load. Once a load is put on kit, it drops drastically. Or. Did you let it idle and then start the render test?

 

@Papusan did I enter your wPRIME score correctly?

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/3357625...re_i7_6700k_2min_11sec_918ms?recalculate=true
Wprime 1024M - 131,918 sec - 2min 11sec 918ms
You put 13918

 

haha, well, at 1045+ with 4.7 i would already be poking into your spheres, im not there yet, still getting to know my hardware here ^^ for now im topping out at 4.9 ghz, so the 6700k is similar to my previous 4790k in terms of oc headroom, but the difference in temps is night and day! no delidding, no specially cool ambient temps and im using adaptive voltage, but still: the 6700k is basically ice cold in comparison

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Yes, Devil canyon should have been the garbage 4770k and the rest you know Damn Intel screwed us with a whole year... Then we would have had Kabys lake now, with even nicer temp

 

It idled till I made sure everything was set to defaults, VF curve and all.
Under load the voltage stays at 1.125 or 1.112 depending on the clocks. Also the FS GPU scores are 800-1000 points better than the stock BIOS for the same sustained clocks. Temps are obviously 8-10C lower as well.
But even with the clocks i have a feeling I'm maxing out the M.2 PCIe bandwidth. I haven't been able to cross 236xx GPU score on FS standard.
Would it be possible for you to do a FS Standard run with a single card capped at 2050 MHz ?
Whenever you have the time of course.

 

The Devil's Canyon was the CPU I always wanted back then which I never had, sounded cool! A devil in a canyon running 4.4 GHz out of the box

I am looking to buy a Kaby flake soon

 

It's better because of the power limit being raised, but that is still to much voltage for being under 2.1 ghz When most can do it on 1.093V Optimal conditions.v 2050 - 2088 on non optimal conditions.

I would love to but I don't have a 1080. I have a 1070 at the moment.
A run i did a while back
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8840422

 

Gotcha.
We're you able to notice how long it sustained 2050+ for ?

 

You had something similar as Devil canyon. Aka the damn hot Hotwell Mx in your AW18. You want it back? JK.
Kaby lake will be similar SKYLAKE. Hope we newer seen a similar processor like Haswell Mx in any laptop again

 

I had the 4940MX which by default only overclocks to 4.0 GHz but the Devil's Canyon is @ 4.4 GHz by default, let alone how much it can overclock

 

I might have to be a bit naughty and splash out if there are some decent Mhz to be had.

 

I fix it for you Devil Canyon is @4.4 GHz <single> core by default. You could probably get 4.2 GHz all cores as well with more patience But remember 4940Mx and 4770K was almost same ****y by Intel!! Some of these 4770K couldn't go over 4.3 GHZ.

 

Here's the Power Mod by Meaker that you are looking for.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...oenix-2-is-here.794530/page-441#post-10347908

 

Managed to pull 220W from a GTX 1080 max - all stock - running Metro Redux - all settings max - it achieves a solid constant 44 fps - no tearing - no stuttering - using fast vsync instead of Gsync.

Re: My problems with image - disabling Gsync seems to have solve every single problem I've ever experienced. Though I still get that uncomfortable pink flash with a broken image at start-up, everything else seems to run normal...

GTX 1080 fast Vsync FTW!!!

 

I don't remember. I think test two was the one that would hold that over clock the longest. And test one is all over the place.

 

Try it http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/geforce-375-76-hotfix-driver-download.html
This is GeForce Hot Fix driver version 375.76 that addresses the following:

• Occasional flicker on high refresh rate monitors
• Artifacts in GIFs

 

MY FIRST VR BENCHES (ALL STOCK):


EDIT: Driver updated to 375.70:

VR ORANGE: http://www.3dmark.com/vrpor/10054

VR BLUE: http://www.3dmark.com/vrpbr/6992

 

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Now that's something you don't see everyday. Very refreshing....

Kudos!

 

@Papusan, u DID notice that @johnksss just dethroned you in CB15 right?

after some playing around, i finally got my corsair ram to boot at 3000 mhz, yehaw! at stock it would boot at 2666 mhz and activating xmp1 or setting the speed/timings manually didnt help. so i upped the system agent voltage by 200mV and loosened the timings, voila: boot baby!

now i just need to find the right settings to get 3000 mhz memtest stable, still throwing up some errors...

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Nothing last forever. Been at the top since February I can start try something new. As you saw in the previous post or the pict. 5.0 GHz gave crashes Maybe rather try more with 4.9 Ghz, LOL
But bench scores I have in sig with 4.8 GHz is ok I think



And 131.xxx in Wprime 1024M is still approved http://hwbot.org/submission/3357625_papusan_wprime___1024m_core_i7_6700k_2min_11sec_918ms

 

That score is never ever gonna happen in the current P870DM-G, 2 or 3.

 

Someone was rather frustrated with the lack of ports in the new MacBook Pro

I, for one, think, that I'm tresspassing or crossovering too many devices - my phone is more like a tablet - my laptops always were more like desktops - my players are more like studio grade DACs / AMPs and same for headphones...

Anyways - it's somewhat funny.



EDIT::

Seems there was more - Just found it while browsing FB - so not my fault - I'm actually BiOS curious - want to install Hackintosh or what it's named to see if Apple specific software is good to use with a full power Clevo











Nooooooo......

 

This is definitely OT , but here is my take on it.
They are trying to move too fast and lagging behind because of that.
But at the same time, there will be an insane amount of stupid people who will throw their hard earned money at their products and keep it running for quite a few years to come.
Since Steve Jobs passed away, their products have been more because of a trying to meet a release cycle thing, than actual innovation or bringing something new to the market.
As for the ports, can't even connect their newest iPhone or its ear pods to the new Mac Pro's without spending another $30+.
That says it all.