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Yes, if task manager at that point shows your ram is full and it's something you will run into repeatedly then more ram is going to solve that.

 

This is for mac, but it should be close to the same for pc....
http://retouchingacademy.com/how-to...-usage-for-peak-performance-photoshop-cs6-cc/

 

Debating on a 6950x honestly, you need to remove the socket as well and it works on only certain motherboards works with BWE delidding.

Thoughts on 6950x @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER ? Honestly, my 5960x is a good CPU and I really want to stick with it.

 

If you are going for world records. then get one.
If you are looking to get the most out of encoding, then get one.
If you haven't even ran your 5960X on LN2, then don't get one.
If you haven't even ran your 5960X on Phase change, then don't get one.


I had thought about getting one to do some benching, but I no longer have 1080's and have yet to grab some Titan XP's, so i'm good with the 5960X.

 

Yeah removing the socket wont be a problem.

 

Nah, not using them for benchmarking. I want to actually do productivity work on it. though, I dont think 30% more performance is necessary

Honestly, in real world, 30% performance really aint much.

I figured the 6950x would be a stupid buy. @D2 Ultima already told me before.

 

He is right, you're fine with the 5960X. And that 30% is only stock vs stock. Add a small overclock and that gap becomes like 10% to 20% or better.
That I did prove with the E5-1680V2 vs the E5-2690V2. It beat it every time. Overclocked mind you, but still....You get the idea.
( We are ruling out the fact that the 6950X can be overclocked as well. )

 

I was doing the math on overclocked vs overclocked. 25% more cores times 5% better IPC but yeah, you guys are right. I just want a upgrade haha

 

I finally found papu's profile picture





This image now pops up everytime anyone mentions "bga" in the discord channel

 

LOL. I know the feeling! But it would have played out right after benching for me. Why? Because it would be surfing the internet which is what it's doing right now. haha

 

Not strictly overclocking related, but kind of relevant. Made my own version of the modded U3+ today with some 3000 RPM fans.

Spoiler

Didn't bother cutting out any holes in the plate, but even so it's working great so far. With auto fans on, the 9V setting drops single-card load temps from around 80C to around 65C, and on 12V, to around 60C. I have no clue where all the hot air is going or why this is so damn effective because it doesn't really feel like it's coming out the rear. If I didn't know better, I'd swear it was black magic.

Special thanks to @Papusan for helping me plan my purchases for this thing.

 

Add me to the list who told you that.. The 5960x already means you have one of the fastest CPUs out there and if your not pushing it to the limit currently, no point going for 6950x.. I'm really jealous wish my desktop had a 5960x but I just wouldn't use it to its fullest so happy with the 6700k lol

Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk

 

@Meaker@Sager
Just an update. That worked. RAM is humming along at 3000mhz. I just used slot 4, then 1 and XMP 1 as you said. Cheers!

 

aw man, jealous! but just u wait and see, ill get mine working as well at some point in the (hopefully near) future

 

I hope everyone understands the Importance of pure fact + info is as well important out to the masses. BGA must DIE. An image shows/tell more than words @Mobius 1!! + rep for showing me @Phoenix @Mr. Fox My profile picture bearing fruit as you can see. Info out to the people !! GREAT

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...rom-hidevolution.795001/page-41#post-10372169

Edit. a search on my Avatar. This came up... ALIENWARE!! LOOOL BGA? TurdBooK?

https://www.google.no/search?tbs=sb...K-rjcI8Jscq20KIwhzz9GTHpLHAhgzGMMNMJayQVWTjbg

Thank's

 

I think enough of the BGA avatar and put the snowman that I shoed you earlier

 

No. Because my Avatar is associated with Alienware and BGA. Haaaaaaaaaa Info out to the people, Oh Yeah. Suits me just fine

https://www.google.no/search?tbs=sb...K-rjcI8Jscq20KIwhzz9GTHpLHAhgzGMMNMJayQVWTjbg

 

I understand, but it's too long since you've had it. Time for a change

PS: 99% of the BGA fanboys don't even know what your avatar is puking at

 

You should not underestimate people. Most can 2 + 2 = 4

 

Excellent news

 

Too bad M$ made this a UWA game so no SLI tweaking is possible. Here is a Gears of War benchmark (SLI non-functional).

 

By the way either Qunatum Break is poorly optimised or there is heavy throttling on GTX 1080 in P775 DM3-G right now.

The game gets from 75 fluid fps to 30 fps during many parts of the game, for no apparent reason. Vsync, Gsync, anything V sync is disabled, everything is set on ultra. The problem is that the frame drops don't happen on heavy scenes, but randmly throughout the game.

Also, after playing for 3 hours straight with GTX 1080, the GPU reaches 78 C max on GPU, and 91C max on CPU. I've got a -70 mV on CPU, 4.0 - 4.2 GHz. Fans on MAXXX!

On CPU, with more GHz clock it will eventually crash, with less voltage it doesn't boot (it boots, resets, boots again, doesn't accept the new values).

I'm looking to know if my temps are normal and if the weird behavior of Quantum Break game is part of the game itself. Especially cutscenes and when I don't play are 30fps capped.

By the way, for anyone wondering how important is to have loads of vRAM. I get a consumption of max 6.5 GB of vRAM while gaming FHD!!!, and I get a 1-2GB consumption of vRAM while doing my day to day activities. Photoshop and other software doesn't eat that much vRAM, good to know.

 

Try running osd so you can watch while in game.

 

Little by little. Really fighting this crappy stock BIOS... a LOT.

 

What do you mean?

I'm checking fps using fraps, and it's sesizably stuttering at some points. In fact, I sometimes feel stutter even when the reported frame rate is fluid 75 fps, but this might be due to my poor gamestyle and very bad mouse connection (it disconnects often when near wifi)

 

Is stock bios for DM2 / 3 more crippled than the BIOS shipped with DM1? If so... Clevo has not listened to our feedback about what should be changed from first model.

 

Nah, Clevo is like all the other OEMs... they don't listen, don't care and do whatever they feel like doing. Besides being an awesome person, that's why @Prema is so important and valuable.

I cannot speak for systems with a different firmware revision than I have, but this one I have is a real mess. If Prema BIOS doesn't fix it, going to send it back for a refund. I'm 99.9% positive that the BIOS/EC version on this one is causing some serious stability issues. I'm getting tired of messing with it at this point. Hopefully, @Prema will be ready to start BIOS testing soon so I can confirm is it nothing more than botched up firmware.

 

To me, it looked like these boys and girls gathered together to order the new AW turdBooks

 

Similar, except AW turdbooks run the Windows version of OS X and they are thicker and heavier.

 

Define crippled?

 

That resembles the image I see at the stores in the mall when a new iToy is released, people running and buying it like sheep no matter how good or bad it actually is and they call it an upgrade

 

it's better now, it has basic control over Power Limit 1 and 2 but not 3 and 4, it has voltage tweaking settings. Oh, but they forgot to include the voltage setting for ring. So you can change the CPU voltage but not the cache which doesn't help when one is trying to undervolt a bit to tame those temps especially on not so great 6700K samples.

Mr. Clevo is smoking something

 

isnt Vcore and Ring/Cache coupled in skylake anyways? so changing one changes the other in kind...

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

 

Nope can be changed separately and to different values.

 

It's garbage. Absolute garbage. The game runs at 720p; it's just upscaled to any resolution above that, and they won't patch in post-720p resolution assets because "it would be too hard to run". Don't even waste your time.

OSDs don't work well (or at all) on UWP titles (unless he's using the Steam version, then this is a moot point).

 

No, it's definitely less crippled than DM1, which was not crippled either. The CPU overclocks nicely, as you can see from the wPrime and Cinebench screen shots. Everything works good until I try using the GPUs and it somehow disables CPU overclocking. This is not throttling. The CPU does not throttle at all under load. It runs full tilt, then suddenly stops being overclocked. The CPU will not overclock after the game or benchmark is finished. It stays stuck at 3.8GHz for a long time.

Edit: I did figure out that if I open XTU or the Clevo CPU OC tool and change multipliers up and apply, then and down and apply, the CPU will temporarily work correctly again. That doesn't help me for benching because it will not finish a benchmark without the problem returning. The problem comes back right at the last few seconds of Fire Strike Graphics Test #2 or during 3DMark 11 Graphics Test #4. So, it acts as though it loses the multiplier settings somehow. One of the earlier releases of the Alienware 18 BIOS had a problem very similar to this, where the CPU would drop to 800MHz and stay there until you reapplied the multiplier settings with XTU.

The issue with the cache ratio and multipliers not being correct for stock returned again as well. I've had to clear NVRAM three times to fix that, which also suggests this older BIOS/EC combo is bugged.

I think it is just a buggy firmware or EC version that I have. @Prema is going to send me the latest stock BIOS this evening to see if that fixes the strange issue I am experiencing. I bet it will be fine after flashing.

Below is what Brother @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER is talking about. You use RivaTuner Statistics Server (RTSS) and HWiNFO64 to put all of the important info on your screen so you can see what is happening in real time. As Brother @D2 Ultima mentioned, if you are using the Windows App-Crap (UWP) version, this is not going to work for you. (Windows 10 Apps are not designed with serious computer users in mind... geared more for the silly folks that prefer that their computer to look and feel like a smartphone.)

 

On my machine the power limits don't matter what they are set at, if both GPUs are enabled the CPU will not be allowed to go over 35 watts if both GPUs are pulling power. Different bios versions are providing different impacts to the system performance, in single GPU mode everything works. The CPU holds clocks and seems to obey the power settings so I am completely blocked until the power limits are removed.

 

interesting. im then wondering why all sources say otherwise:

Link 1: http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/748...-intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index5.html
Quote: "Intel has combined the Core and Cache voltage rails, which is labeled as VCore or Core voltage in many UEFIs."

Link 2: http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics
Quote: "Unlike Haswell, LLC affects core voltage like the pre-Haswell times, and adaptive voltage mode is no longer dangerous under heavy synthetic loads like Prime95. On a similar note, input voltage is no longer a setting. Same goes for cache voltage."

Link 3: http://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/o...ke-overclocking-anleitung-6600k-6700k.html#a4
Quote (translated from German): "A separate cache voltage as with Haswell no longer exists. Cache and core share the same voltage supply or input voltage."

Add to that the fact, that while I am capable to adjust Cache and VCore independently from another both in the BIOS and in XTU, once i set a value in one, the respective other is changed to that identical value and vice versa.

So I would be extremely interested to learn how exactly to change these two values separately from one another and to different values?

 

Yeap that's what I belived initially as well. But on desktop boards and using Premas BIOS, I set up different voltages and when I checked using TS both had different values. (The ones I set in the BIOS)
Also when I further lowered the cache voltages the temperatures dropped drastically. Further confirming that voltages can be different.

 

I think ill have to talk to @Prema about this ^^ jotting down all the kinks ive found thus far, I hope he can pimp it up a bit further coupled Cache & VCore sucks temp wise and also RAM stability wise!

 

Yeap Prema's BIOS has those separated , like this :

http://imgur.com/a/9Dtk5

I think even XTU lets your change them individually. Im not too sure though, since i haven't even touched XTU in ages.

 

And for the record...These were ran with a stock bios.

 

Benchmark Check!

How many people are getting beat by BGA? LOL
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/9958481/fs/10670947

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/588713/spy/485063/spy/685873

 

oh i know, i have a Prema Bios and i am able to change those two values separately, but once i boot into windows, they show up the same... kind of in XTU, they actually DO show separate values, but once i check the VCore readings, I can see that the VCore is very well linked to the Cache and is changed in the same way.

 

@Georgel - took me a while to find this. Images are broken, but using the image I gave you in post # 6195 should all make sense.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...e-in-benchmark-with-on-screen-display.655138/

 

I have the cache value in XTU but it does change with the adaptive voltage.

 

If you put it in window mode, it will use just about 70 percent cpu and no gpu at all. Now that is interesting.

 

it does change separately or coupled with Vcore? maybe its the difference between adaptive and static...really sucks that i cant set static

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

 

only way to set cache voltage separate from core is with Prema BIOS or ThrottleStop. XTU forces them equal and that sucks. Might as well not have the option visible in XTU if you can't use it.