Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

Key word. "Customers". And not all customer machines are high tech like ours. They want the laptop to work as intended and not use a work around. They want to be able to close the lid and open it and the computer comes back on.

 

I take it one step further than you brah. I disable it from the BIOS so I don't even see it or have to deal with that Fast Startup hybrid shutdown non-sense which makes the system take ages to shutdown and rarely works, if ever.

 

That applies to most. Almost all of them want to open the box and push the button. There are not many technically savvy computer users in the world. We are the exception I would say.

I do as well, but only when I can. That's only with a Prema BIOS mod. I disable all ACPI. There is no way to do it with the stock BIOS.

 

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On a serious note. For some reason the clocks that were working fine with 375.63, seem to be the crashing the driver with 375.76 (hot fix) .
Only about - 25mhz seems to stabilize in benchmarks. or the default clocks.

 

I have to let my customers say that. I can't very well going around saying that, else I would have no business.

This is exactly why i do not DDU my drivers.
If the new drivers are flaky i just revert back to my working drivers.

Edit. This also allows for testing many different drivers on the fly so to speak. To see what works best for benching and or games.

 

The Medium Rare preparation of cards was back with 375.70. xD
Sometimes it feels like there are clowns writing these drivers.

 

Well that's kind of hard to say really. When we would over clock the 980M's with hard mods, it was a joke. Until I found out that it was the driver. Then we were able to bench vram up to like 1.9 ghz from the lowly 1.5 ghz

This is why i keep all my drivers. You never know if nvidia will bork over clocking like they have done in the past. Whether it was intentional or by mistake. Who knows, other than it happen. Or mess with features that may work at nvidia, but out in the wilds they straight fail. All we can do is cope and adapt and hope they get it fixed.

 

I've got a library of NIVIDA drivers stashed just in case they get goofy on us again like they did once before. I only save the good ones that do not cripple overclocking.

I do the same, but if you are changing installation methods (going from stock mobile driver package to a barebones desktop driver mod with a bunch of bloatware removed) you need to use DDU to get rid of all the registry crap that doesn't belong there. Once you have done that, then you don't need to use DDU between driver versions as long as you are using the same basic driver mod.

 

Mr. Fox = nVIDIA's Backup Mirror server

 

Only for GTX 1070 was the driver updated recently on Nvidia for the latest laptops. Seems the generic or 1080 version was not updated on 11.11....

 

Probably the same driver but not uploaded on the server to both places. You can probably use it with 1070 just fine unless they left out the 1070 hardware ID, and that's not very likely. And, if they did you could just add it yourself.

 

What drivers are you guys on right now?
The last one I remember being stable was 372.54.
Unfortunately I needed to update to 373.XX chain because of one of my application updates.

 

Yeah, 375.70 is stable for me. I am testing between 372.54, 375.57 and 375.70. So far all seem about the same. Since I am dual booting I have to test between both OSes because the best one for W7 versus W10 might be different, so double the work. I'm not testing games, though. Only overclocked benching. I've repurposed El Cazador for playing games now. The 980M still does a marvelous job of playing games, and probably will for a long time to come.

 

Hmm. Be careful with 375.70 .
There are a lot of thread on the GeForce forums about that version frying the GPUs. (Desktop only) Because the fans turned off or something. And the boost clocks were super freaking high.

But I do agree with you, my clocks with 375.70 were wat better than they are right now with the .76 hot fix.

 

I don't use hotfix drivers if I can avoid them because I want my benchmarks to show up in search results. I don't care other than that if Futuremark approves them, but it makes life easier for me to be able to find them without having to remember to uncheck the box.

 

I also save tones of NVIDIA drivers, both desktop and laptop, here's a picture of all my desktop drivers: http://i.imgur.com/bDPpiad.png

Nothing newer than 373.06 since everything newer than that has been big problems for me.

Out of all of those, my favourites are 359.00, 362.00, 365.19, and 373.06.

 

Yup, that's a few you got there, bro.

Are you running a black Windows theme, or is that the color theme of the GUI for network storage in that screen shot?

 

I use a modified high-contrast black theme combined with Windows 10's built-in black theme for settings/etc. It's easy on the eyes and looks quite nice to me.

 

Nice! I think almost anything is more attractive than Windows 10's nasty looking default pastel puke UI.

I love black anything (except coffee). They say black is not a color, but whatever it is, black still my personal favorite.

 

Same here , but this one had, fixed Pixelation and corruption in videos and gifs . Mainly anything that was hardware decoded.

 

The VBIOS does not control the fans in a notebook

 

Yeah figured. Otherwise the Clevo clwons wouldn't implement that annoying EC Comms cable.
Thanks for confirming.

 

Exactly the same here! These have been the drivers that have been the most stable for me!

 

But you can modify your preferred drivers with the the Miracast Audio package if you want it And you don't get Higher bench results with Miracast audio

 

The card has never directly controlled the fans.

 

Same here! 375.XX has been giving me black screens and artifacts so I'm back on 369.XX to see if it's the drivers or something else.

 

Some folks are losing display brightness control as well, but they're working great for me.

I think I may have an older vBIOS (86.04.2A.00.2C) and no G-Sync, so maybe that has something to do with why the latest drivers are working well for me but not for others.

 

I actually meant it the other way around.

 

Well fan control and power delivery control are quite different

 

Yes, that is correct. It seems like a lot of people don't know this, but it has never been the case with laptop fans. They have been controlled by the EC for a long time. From what I understand, there is no ability to control fans with the GPUs because the mobile cards do not have any of the sensors that are necessary for fan controls like a desktop GPU.

 

But the EC does control the fan speeds that cool the GPU. That is what i meant. And that is the reason the notebook cards wont have issues.

 

Yes, and unfortunately many OEMs cannot seem to get things right with the EC fan controls. It seems fairly common for laptops to have fans that do not function correctly because the EC is buggered up.

 

Yes, they should be fine so long as the base power measurement does not change.

 

Are you using desktop or notebook version of the driver?

 

What is the anime picture for?

 

EC read temperature and power draw from graphics. But fans spinning normally up due the temperature reading from graphics and not the power draw. Or both?

 

AFAIK on Pascal its based on a temperature vs VF curve. I could be very wrong about this.

 

Well, whether that is true or not, it sounds good and it certain sounds like the kind of nonsensical baloney we have come to expect from Team NVIDIOT.

 

Is the latency a bit too high ? or am i just being ignorant ?
Gonna start tweaking the system tomorrow.

 

Yes. That is pretty high.

 

Notebook and I just realized I can't play BF1 w/o 372.XX or newer drivers.

 

i was shocked to see those bandwidth numbers, then i realized its the quad channel of your monster desktop

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

 

Haha, i still need to start setting things up. Specially the processor overclock.

If you dont mind me asking, what usually helps in reducing the latency?

 

The timings and the speed of the processor. That memory is only 3k?

 

I'm sure this will be trumped quickly.... But here's my first run of Fire Strike!



EDIT: Validation http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16020734?

 

ha, thats the very first thought that came to mind especially when you think about that insane 2x16 cores setup + 2 Titan XPs

 

Default is 3k CL14 . People have pushed it to 3400 CL15 CR1.
The timings can be dropped to CL11 @ 2400MHZ.
Though the main reason i went for this memory was because high frequency memory doesn't add anything to the workloads this system will be running.
Also how much does Uncore/Cache affect the latency?

Ah this is the 6850k one. The Xeon is still waiting on the motherboard. Some fix super micro has to implement for some issue with Scientific Linux.
But I'm probably going to be using 2400mhz or 2133mhz memory in that one.

 

I was for the life of me trying to figure out what invite was.

In some cases I found that it didn't change anything at all, while in others it did help.

To be honest, I think quad cores handle the latency far better than hex and higher core related cpu's. So I don't think you will be able to get much better than you are now.

Example.
5960X Desktop is 67.1 right now
6700K While laptop is 53.1 right now.

 

LOL, thank the phones auto correct for that

For me the memory frequency has helped in cases where i do preview/draft renders with files being written to the SSD. Or when im running GPU previews with large caches. But those account for like 10-20% of my usage scenarios. Everything else i did , didnt get affected.

That makes sense, the latency seems to be rising with the amount of cores and the drop in per core clocks. I need to go back and start catching up on Broadwell-E overclocking. Shame i gotta go to work today. Ill message you tomorrow with a few questions.

 

LOL. So I see.

Nice! I know for some they can see that on the fly. For me, not so much.

No problem.