Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

That's a big 10/4 negative. You would need to see if @Prema would want to take that on.

Last time we tried helping dell they took that info and used it against us. I'm good there.

 

Yeah, don't do it. They've done that to us more than once. They need to rot in the mess they've created without our help.

 

1440p: http://www.catzilla.com/showresult?lp=771727|*|Result Details



1080p: http://www.catzilla.com/showresult?lp=771724|*|Result Details



720p: http://www.catzilla.com/showresult?lp=771733|*|Result Details

 

Yeah, let Dell fix their own problems. If they can.

 

Did they threaten to sue and/or send a cease and desist letter?

 

probably more like: oh thx for the info on how you modded our stock bios, now we know even better how to lock your butts out in the future!

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

 

When I run FireStrike even when the temps are under 70C, the core clock is all over the place. With factory setting it is fluctuating between 1700-1820 Mhz, when I give it a rather big OC, it is fluctuating between 1800-1950 Mhz. Is this unstable core clock another shenanigan from Clevo which needs the magic from Prema to be fixed or I am just doing something wrong ?

(ps: voltage also drops)

 

@Phoenix - at least one score I think is ready for the front page...

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10975368



http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11794211

 

Seeing so many OC results with Prema BIOS and vBIOS, I feel like a man dying of thirst watching another man drown.

 

My read/write speeds are a bit lower than @Phoenix on the G.SKILL RAM ....

47x4, 47x cache, 1.270v static

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48x4, 48x cache, 1.270 static



48x4, 48x cache, 1.275 static ... This is around where I start to get throttling.

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I tried 49x4 & 49x cache, but results were much worse due to throttling

 

@ Mr. Fox what is the GTX 1080 core clock during FireStrike with a Prema vBIOS? Will it throttle under 1900 Mhz too or it is rock solid and wont go under 1971 Mhz?

 

This is appropriate. If we wanted cotton candy and unicorns and calliope music we would be hanging out in a BGA lover's thread and bragging that our soldered filth with its max OC performs nearly as well as a stock 6700K that throttles with wrong settings.

They pretended to care, asked for our expert advice, took copious notes and deliberately took steps to implement blockage of the things we were doing to correct their engineering defects. Basically, they lied and sabotaged their own products, and told us what we were already doing could not work. They are liars and losers that practice digital genocide.

 

So, sharing a desktop SuperPi 32M I ran. Still working on tuning OS and other tweaks, but felt like I should share at some point:



Edit: I know the cable management sucks right now, no comments on the crappiness of that!!! LMAO!

 

There is no @Prema vBIOS yet. He is still working on the system BIOS. The vBIOS testing will begin once that is finished. Right now the important thing to keep semi-stable GPU core clocks is to keep the GPU colder than normal operating temperature. If you let the GPU reach normal operating temps it will not hold boost clocks. This applies even to stock clock speeds. The NVIDIOTS call it "dynamic" but we all recognize it as a display of stupidity and engineering incompetence. I think they have partnered with Alienware on developing creative excuses for their mistakes.

 

Which is kinda impossible with the P775DM3, since we dont have a superior vapor chamber heatsink -_-

 

It is impossible even on a desktop using air cooling. All of the nicest overclocked GPU benchmarks you see from me, @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER and @Trafficante are only possible with AC cooling. El Cazador has the same defective heat sink design as your machine and it goes into thermonuclear meltdown mode with high overclocked benching without AC cooling. It is a curse having Siamese twin heat sinks because the overclocked CPU contaminates the GPU tethered to it... kind of like swapping spit with a diseased harlot.

 

Freely translated from AW CEO Mr. Azor... Our very best BGA can be "Dynamically overclocked" up to amazing 4.1GHz. But Dellienware forget to tell in their advertising the whole truth... Only on a damn single core. I don't think Nvidia can beats this yet Or can they?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-664#post-10394180

you tell me...

 

Better and better... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussion-thread.794965/page-344#post-10403058

 

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why are you using the ASUS version of CPU-Z man? We don't want the name ASUS on our taptops

 

Desktop .

 

oh snap, I thought that was Mr. Fox

 

See... told ya... the NVIDIOTS are sleeping with Aliens... The control freak Nazis are building 'a better world' with crippled crap smothered in gimmicks and marketing lies.

Every word us true. Only the first statement (green highlight) is actually desirable. The other things are evidence of dishonesty that starts in the heart and minds of people that really don't have the interests of their customers in mind. This problem is a cancer that emanates from corruption that touches every brand... every OEM and ODM that builds laptops has this severe character flaw, and as long as Kool-Aid drinkers are tipping their glasses and giddy about emasculated filth, including BGA garbage, it will never get better. If not for @Prema righting the wrongs there would be no legitimate reason for any enthusiast to consider purchasing anything better than a sub-$500 Acer, Lenovo or Dell trashbook. The owners of non-Clevo brand high performance notebooks, and Clevo owners without access to Prema firmware mods, are cursed in a completely hopeless situation that cannot have a happy ending or an acceptable outcome.

 

Ugh. I really wish I could have gotten a desktop on Black Friday/Cyber Monday now.

At least my 780Ms held whatever clockspeed I shoved up their circuits. This... this is something else. Doesn't even NEARLY hold its boost and the FPS is terrible. That thing should be sitting at 1800MHz+ come on

 

Mr. Fox on a mission to make everyone ditch BGA crap

On a side note, I feel really sorry for anyone who buys a Clevo laptop from a non-Prema partner not knowing what they're missing. These machines are throttling / crippled trash without Prema. I'd rather buy a BGA laptop than to buy a Clevo without a Prema BIOS

Everytime I enjoy my stable laptop with stable clock speeds / no throttling, I thank Prema in my head

 

Of course that person's situation is utterly hopeless. He made the fatal error of purchasing an MSI turdbook. It cannot and will not ever be special because it is engineered as a eunuch, from both a hardware and firmware perspective. As long as people continue to open their wallets and shell out big bucks for emasculated filth this will continue to happen with 100% frequency. Unfortunately, they don't know what they don't know. They are too bull-headed and immature to listen to the advice of those who are wiser. They blindly follow a brand because they don't know any better. The only reasons Clevo is still a viable option are LGA/MXM and @Prema firmware mods. Otherwise, purchasing anything expensive in a "gaming" notebook would be a blatant demonstration of ignorance.

Absolutely!!! I want to see it killed... dead, dead, dead. Evil should not be allowed to prosper under any circumstances. If it's not possible to buy from a @Prema partner in their country they should not buy anything... they should build a desktop and use a Chromebook or inexpensive disposable notebook with integrated graphics for web browsing, email and office productivity apps. If they don't use office productivity apps, a smartphone or Android tablet will do what needs to be done. I would rather game on an XBOX or Playstation than waste money on a BGA turdbook with cancer firmware.

 

Well it's only going to get worse, that is a 100 percent certainty.

 

The sad truth.

 

Yes, and we know that. This will probably be the last expensive notebook that I purchase for the rest of my life. I am sick of this nonsense. If the cancer metastasizes and spreads to desktop, then I will be done with computers as a form of enjoyment. I'll find something else to spend my money and time on that is not dominated by control freaks that want to rip me off and decide how I get to use the products I purchase. May they all burn in hell for their insolence.

 

That one is likely power limited.

Pascal is too sensitive to temperatures to hold a constant clockspeed.

What if you need a mobile workstation? In the end, computers are tools. If the tool meets your need, then its a good purchase. If not, its not.

 

I don't scare that easily

 

That's different when it is a tool, not a source of entertainment or pleasure. Tools don't need to be awesome or special. They only need to work. Just like hammers and screwdrivers don't need to be fancy or special, as long as they drive screws and nails.

I don't get scared... just pissed off and zero tolerance for stupidity and nonsense. They can all bite me if they think I am spending a dime on their castrated trash.

 

Let them bring on the criple.

 

At least he didn't buy AW or ASUS. He can use a Svet mod to help his poor GPU.

I'm already mad that I've basically got to get a laptop because my country is a large screwup. It's LITERALLY going to cost me nearly double the price of the desktop just to bring the parts in.

If the cancer has no fixes and exists on desktop I'll probably just go become an engineer or something.

 

Sadly, Svet can't do squat for his panty waist BGA CPU. As I said... hopeless situation with a crippled piece of garbage.

Please go be an engineer and build us all something better... something desirable that the hardcore notebook enthusiasts can actually be proud of.

 

Exactly. A lot of times, computers are just tools. So I think one shouldnt be extreme in their opinions regarding BGA/etc. I can see it meeting the needs for many other people. Like if I need a minimum weight machine with 6820hk on the go, a P870dm would clearly be unsuitable.

 

That's just not how I operate. I will always be ruthlessly brutal and cruel toward what I don't agree with when it affects me directly and leaves me with zero acceptable alternatives. I'm all about having choices and freedom and the direction things are headed means no choices or freedom. That's absolutely unacceptable and I will have no part of it. I will do whatever I can to destroy it even if I know in advance that I will not be able to. It's called extreme malice. At least if I can draw blood and inflict measurable damage, I can say I accomplished something.

But, again... two different subjects. I don't expect my employer-provided Lenovo to be anything other than a piece of crap that does what they pay me to do. I derive no pleasure from using it... it's no different than my company iPhone or the branded shirts they provide me to wear when I am in public on business.

 

and that is the secure boot crap that only enabled custom bios through an external flashing tool?

 

If you notice, I only mentioned his "GPU" =D.

I don't know what I could be, but anything that uses logic is probably something I'll be good at. I'm a terrible businessperson, all I want to do is help people for the most part. Well, we'll see where things take us.

 

You are the type of person that will be successful at anything you care about. You're just that kind of guy and that's why we all love you, bro.

Unfortunately, they took active steps to see that that ability got broken on the Viking and Ranger as well. Our buddy @svl7 was part of our clandestine conversations with the company reps. But, that was only part of the problem. Crippled fans, crippled vBIOS, artificial and inadequate power handling limits, removal of features we told them were important... there is a list of their acts of treachery, but that's over now. Their brand is no longer relevant. They pretended to care, but they were merely gathering intelligence to use against us.

They put on an impressive dog and pony show, but they are not your friends and never will be. They are control freaks with an agenda that is at enmity with what true performance PC enthusiasts hold dear. Their desktops are crippled just like their laptops.

 

Ah, now THIS is something I know to be true myself... the problem is making me care about something =D. If something bores me or doesn't properly interest me I can't do jack, I just wanna sleep when I look at things related to it.

Unfortunately, all sciences are out. When I was in the equivalent of your high school, I did chemistry and physics and biology. In chemistry they didn't have any tools so we had to do things like suck up acid in pipettes with our mouths, and much of the physics equipment was broken. We didn't have A/C in the chem labs either so it was hot, closed rooms with a bunch of bunsen burners too. I'm completely turned off of all those forms of science, though the least so is with Physics (which is why I mentioned potentially engineer of some kind). So finding something not to do with computers or video games? That's going to be rough.

 

What are you guys using to OC the VGA? I am using the GPU OC app in the Clevo software and +140 Mhz core is the limit, above this I am seeing graphical glitches. 140-170Mhz I am seeing blankouts, but above 170 Mhz I start to see graphical glitches which occur when the OC is unstable.

 

I use the built in tool as well. +150 Core / +300 Mem, perfectly stable. Anything higher is not stable and crashes

 

And how is the OC scaling for you?
Fire Strike Ultra result for me with +140/300 Mhz: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16476603?

Isn't this a bit low compared to the amount of the OC ?

 

1) I never run Fire Strike Ultra, just the stock one

2) I don't know about a single 1080 GTX, I have SLI

 

@Papusan

Is this you bro? =

 

Just run stock Fire Strike: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16476732?

And guess what?



This throttling is like herpes...once you get it, it will be hard to get rid of it.

Also, the mem clock is stable, but the core clock is all over the place, jumping up and down like a Mexican jumping bean...and Clevo can't get more south like that.

 

That's about right for a single 1080 GTX

 

Probably a stupid question, but shouldn't the laptop GTX 1080 and the desktop GTX 1080 give about the same score with around the same clocks? Just asking because my MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X scores higher with lower clocks. Is it because the desktop variant has much different power settings resulting in better performance or because my mobile variant's core clock is jumping around due to the bad factory vBIOS ?

But the main reason why I am concerned is because will it give stuttering in games due to the clock speed jumping around...will need to test some demanding games.