Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

What do the trick Fox?

 

@Prema BIOS plus trying different slots. I could only get one stick to boot at 3200 or two in single channel mode before. Now using slots 1 and 4 works, but very unstable. I lost my Windows and Office activation and had to redo that, LOL. Going to see if I can tweak away the instability with custom settings now that I have it booting. Also got 3100 working using 100*15 with the odd QCLK setting to add 100MHz to 3000. Using stock 3200 SPD even now I am getting Chrome crashing problems try to reply to this post.

 

Looks like it tore up W7 and W10, LOL. Had to run SFC /scannow on both of them and both have errors that cannot be repaired now. 3DMark 11 and Fire Strike both exit to the desktop with an unknown error running the physics test. Gotta love G.SKILL for selling RAM that doesn't work as advertised with stock XMP SPD. The 3000 XMP SPD is crap, too.

Thank God for Macrium Reflect. Otherwise, I'd be doing a clean install from scratch again.

 

Happened to me once with the corsair 2666Mhz 32Gb kit. Returned it the next day. Im certain this isnt because of the memory brand, probably something is getting messed up on the EC/NVRAM end. mainly because of the memory being unstable. The Corsair memory for me was acting up even @ 2666Mhz. Caused me to loose my activation , and local license server settings for some reason.

 

So is the HPET disabled score using throttlestop to set to 1ms? Your screenshot below shows it set to 16ms, which is the opposite of what I want.

What about the 8GB sticks for 3000MHz? I thought those were okay without Prema mods?

And has anyone tried the sticks in other notebooks, like maybe MSI?

 

Yeah, that could be. Just tried booting with both sticks in the bottom and it won't even make an effort to try to POST at 3200 like that... Weird deal.

 

I never tried those, im sitting all dandy with @Phoenix 's 64 GB 2800Mhz kit running at 3000Mhz @ 16-18-18-17-38.

 

I was hoping to get 32GB (4 x 8GB) of the corsair 3000MHz sticks. But if it's basically not going to run at 3000MHz then is it even worth consideration?

 

don't, they're worse than even the new buggy batch of the 3000 MHz. G.Skill ones.

 

Umm i think HIDE has found a way to get them (G-Skill ones , not corsair) working. And it should probably be good to go with the Prema BIOS.
But @Mr. Fox and @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER will know better.

 

I'm an IDIOT and I meant to type "G.Skill"

Yeah but Prema BIOS isn't available yet. Unless Prema would let me beta test =D.

 

oh then HIDevolution has a way to get them working they say. Buy them RAM sticks from them so they can hook you up with the settings as even I don't know what fix they found.

Alternatively, wait for G.Skill to release their new FIXED modules as they are well aware of the current issue with the new batch sticks.

 

That shall be my donation 2DU if you get your system before release...

 

Well there you go ^

 

YESH. I shall finally get to help you with something!

 

2DU, that is 1337 l!ng0 to t3h m4X

 

By the way, how is my timing for mentioning prema so good? Usually when I tag him he appears in a few minutes, but this time I didn't even tag him. He's like the mythical phoenix watching over the chat, waiting to swoop in and be awesome.

 

rss_reader | grep -i prema

 

You're in the http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/

 

You can use the G.SKILL 3000 16GB stick. They work better for me with manual timings See below. (Temps are pretty decent for only max fans... no AC cooling.)

 

Ah yes I remember your manual timings. I just thought it was safer to get the 8GB sticks in general, but if they're cheaper I might just get the 16GB ones then. Somehow I doubt I can get 64GB though xD

How does your CPU hold up during say a long x264 encoding session for temps?

 

It might be. I've certain had to deal with lots of rigmarole with the 2*16GB sticks. I think 4*8GB might be the better option if 32GB is what you're shooting for.

I'm not sure. I've never had any reason to do that. I doubt I would do something like that using the clocks speeds I use for benching. I'd probably just run 45x4 with stock voltage for a task like that. Even if the temps are OK, clock speeds like 4.8GHz might cause audio and video artifacts.

 

I don't know if this is the case for everyone. My G.Skill 2 x 8gb work almost plug n play.
I can set XMP 1 or 2 but then need to reboot, switch to custom and up voltage to 1.25 otherwise they are simply retarded at stock 1.2 and choc full or errors.
Also RAM slots 1 and 4 work without having to boot with 1 stick first.
I do wonder if I'd have luck with another 2 x 8gb which was originally the plan.

 

I see. Was just wondering for long term temperatures. CPU-based recording and streaming is essentially real-time x264 encoding + gaming. Would like 4.5-4.6 being stable for temps with that. Was just wondering if anyone ever tested it. Yes, the CPU will be delidded if I can help it

 

I'm going to be a little bold here and say alot of that will depend on your Heatsink Cooper quality. Get some good copper and you will be sitting pretty at 4.5/6 all day long.

 

How do I pick good copper? xD

 

Hope for the best

 

Remind Eurocom that temps under load is an important part of any review.

 

It's the Clevo Copper Lottery, you can't really. Perhaps if you ask them to specifically double and triple check you're getting the good stuff. I swapped both my DM1 and DM3 CPU heatsinks. Both were night and day.
More than likely you'll be fine using CLU on the delidded chip to the bottom of the IHS. For the IHS to the heatsink it's easier to use regular paste to get a decent hookup.

With my DM3 I really wanted all CLU and had to lap the Heatsink and IHS to get them flat. The IHS is surprisingly convex.
Finally after about 12 repastes, 2 IHS's, 2 Heatsinks and a lot of money wasted on different pastes and combinations I got it sorted real good.

Don't let lapping scare you either if you run out of options. It's will only take about 30 mins of your time and a few sheets of sand paper. You're always welcome to PM me.

@Papusan lol Paps picture say 1000 words.

 

Lapping would be really nice if I didn't have to actually import the sandpaper... xD

I'll be using CLU between IHS and copper for sure. I'll ask Eurocom to make sure for me with extra love <3

 

An ok Cinebench R11.5 - 10.75 pts score with [email protected]+Cashe
http://hwbot.org/submission/3410575...5_core_i7_6700k_10.75_points?recalculate=true

 

Yeah, 45x4 using stock voltage or even -20 should be easily doable with a delidded CPU if the heat sink fit is correct. I use my 4.5GHz ThrottleStop profile for the video editing on the stuff I upload to YouTube and temps max out about 80°C if it is a really long video. Even if you got really unlucky with a poorer than average sample of 6700K you should be able to run it 45x4 with stock voltage.

 

My room would be a lot hotter; so I'll probably aim for 4.5 with as good an UV as I can get, and if 90c is the most it ever reaches I'll take it as acceptable.

 

How hot usually?

My previous place in LA, would go up about 30-35C without the AC during afternoons. And with my de-lidded processor @ 4.5ghz tops i saw it go was about 80-82C.

 

33c, high humidity. Maybe more. Bad airflow in the room.

 

OK, hot I understand a lot better than I would like to. I live in Phoenix. But, what's the deal with the bad airflow? If you pass gas with bad airflow that's going to be pretty sad. Can you use a box fan and crack a window?

 

LLLLLLOOOOOOLLLLLLL

I'll send you a video of my room on twitter in your DMs. You might understand what I mean xD

 

Just saying... sometimes you need a gentle breeze to keep the clouds moving.

 

Nice! 120W and 81°C max @ 4.8GHz only using max fans.

 

Do you know how much the Cache frequency affects benchmarks like Cinebench and wPrime ?

 

Not much http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/748...-intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index4.html

BTW... Tested Cinebench R11.5 with fully locked 6700hq aka BGA FILTH clock-speed. The fan could not bear to start. Massive 31C degrees in max temp While the new thin modern flimsy AWBOOKS struggling with +90C in the same bench

 

4.8 would be nice. I can load at 4.8 but have not been able to get a good run with Cinbench without throttling at 4.7 or 4.8. Have been running at near 4.6 good though.

 

excuse me while I laugh into next year

 

Do you think 31C is too high temp? Maybe I Should get me an A / C unit or mod my Tripod cpu heatsink for better temp. Sorry, I meant Fourpod cpu heatsink Or I can risk this below

 

It only helps with very few. This is why core should be maxed until comfortable with heat, then add cache until that fills the last bit of comfort heat level. Always choose core over cache!

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Posting my first idle and after Fire Strike Ultra Benchmark as requested. Thanks for any help.

 

Alright, gentlemen—I finally physically have my pack of Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra. I don't want to use it just yet, but I want to ask for tips and good practices to apply when using the thermal compound. Thanks in advance, guys.

 

I highly recommend using a lint-free swab to apply it instead of the awful brush they give you. It makes it much easier to get the material to adhere to both the die and heatsink instead of beading up and rolling around. Conductonaut comes with a hard-packed Q-tip which serves a similar purpose. The brush also wastes a ton of material in the bristles unless you snip off some of the length.

 

Take a look from 10 min in @Mr. Fox video
Same procedure for mobile i7 without IHS. Remember Liquid metal also on heatsink.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11873034