Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

9999€ for a BGA Acer predator craptop? Where do I sign in? LOL

 

Maybe here?

 

Hahaha @Papusan xD

 

I agree. It is really good. The M18xR1/R2 had really good audio for a notebook, but this one is even better. In contrast, the P570WM had the most hideous audio quality of any notebook I had ever seen. I am not an audiophile by any stretch of the imagination, but it was inexcusably horrible.

Yeah, a real "gem" with 45W TDP. Not sure what kind of anemic "desktop class" piece of garbage that would be equivalent to, but nothing I would want anything to do with. Even referring to it as that is about as blatant as a lie can be. If the person that said that actually believes it then we are all witnesses to a prime example of professional ignorance and incompetence.

 

Hey,
i bought a clevo p650rs-g and wanted to know am i oc it right?
I couldn't find much on here for this besides in the alienware section.
Besides what you see everything is left/set at 0/deafault.

I made a thread withing even knowing this existing.
I did a search and learned i need to update the bios in order for my overclocks to work.

I am running windows 7, can i still follow these steps for eluktronics bios?
http://www.eluktronics.com/support/p650rs-g-p670rs-g-p670rp6-bios-update/

or i gotta go with xmg?
also any other tips i should know off. seems pretty even to me as to who likes which one.
i already downloaded the BIOS files, but where can i get the the EC/KBC files?

https://www.mysn.de/driver/XMG/XMG_P507_P707/BIOS/
The instructions i found on how to update this: http://mysn.co.uk/support/index.php...e/View/21/0/how-do-i-update-my-notebooks-bios





My OC won't hold during gameplay :| the ghz drop.

 

The principle is similar to the "cat" + "buttered toast" electricity generator...

Spoiler

"jellied cat" variant with scientific discussion

 

This was also a reason of many which moved me not to MSI but to continue on Clevo.
The Soundchip is so cool.

Because it is worth listening to "The Cure - Burn" or "Led Zeppelin - Achilles Last Stand". But the drums song "Burn" are a real bliss!
Since I need no Accuphase E406 more and no TI 5000.

 

do I need to run this timer tool every time I reboot or just once and forget it?

 

It doesn't run automatically, just testing it right now!

 

You can do the same thing with TS I think. I personally haven't tried. And have that startup automatically.

 

I personally don't start up TS automatically. It's a bit buggy. I just pin to my start menu, and when windows starts, I click on it.

Windows has this stupid thing too where it delays startup programs as if people weren't on SSDs, so it's actually faster to manually click on most of your desired programs at boot rather than have them start automatically. The only ones I leave automatic are WLAN Optimizer, mouse/headset software, and steam. Everything else I just click on; far faster boot.

 

A pair of 1080s is always going to suck a fair amount of power.

 

Try this, which I had posted in another thread.
Realtek driver is from @Swick1981 - [Download Realtek 7930 (UNLOCKED).rar]

Extra Features...

 

And, for those that are still scared of overclocking or poking around in the BIOS with settings, here's a noob's no-effort 4.6GHz CPU overclock with default bios settings for everything except core ratios and cache all set to 46x ( using only CCC in Windows). No current limit throttling or anything. GPUs set to +175/+600.



Edit: Don't forget to tweak things in NVIDIA Control Panel. If you use GeFarts defaults that 3DMark 11 score is going to be between 26K and 27K to be "more efficient" LOL.

 

Hey guys... want some wallpapers? http://imgur.com/a/TTAW2

I think I might make this my logon screen for Windows 10...

 

Do you recommend we install CCC? Should we use the special instructions to not install XTU or is that not needed anymore? I miss having it, but I heard there were issues so I never have. Super happy with my system but would be nice to have it back if it does not mess anything up.

 

@Mr. Fox is testing CCC (we almost had to force him to install it) for the RC of the Prema Mod BIOS, which has an option to disable XTU interface to make sure CCC isn't messing with the system as it did before.


BTW: Finally found the Rockit 88 de-/re-lid tool... ...hope to get a chance to give it a shot later this week-end...

 

I'm coming to the motherland in March. Let me borrow it for the 7700k.

 

I do not have XTU installed. I am using a beta version of CCC right now, just installed it with defaults, no tweaks. When I installed that previous latest version of CCC it basically did something to my system to where I cannot validate at 5.0GHz and cannot bench at 4.9GHz any more. I flashed the BIOS multiple times, flashed stock BIOS and multiple versions of @Prema's test BIOSes, clean installed Windows in Legacy and UEFI... literally wasted many hours trying to regain what I lost. None of my old BIOS overclock settings worked any more and 4.8GHz was my max from that point forward. I also installed that Sager v08g EC that @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER shared at the same time. There seems to be a voltage limit I did not have before, and I cannot give the CPU enough voltage for 4.9GHz. It maxes about around 1.350V under full tilt load now matter how much I give it, and I cannot figure out why.

It remains to be seen if I will be able to regain the same CPU OC abilities. I have not tried yet... been playing with 3200MHz memory (also a no-go) and now testing this new CCC. As Prema said, I almost did not install it because of what happened last time. But, I figured if I am going to be stuck at 4.8GHz now, what difference does it make in the grand scheme of things. If I'm still screwed there's nothing I can do about it and I'll just have to deal with being hobbled by a 4.8GHz max OC until I can afford to try a 7700K CPU in the beast.

Awesome! Glad you found it.

Edit: Yeah, Nazisoft Windows 10 logon background... very fitting, indeed.

 

Prema, please. *I* know you had to force him to install it. Don't be bashful, we all love Mr. Fox here and it's good to be honest

WOT?

Any hope we can get some of the OEMs to report this to Clevo and express extreme dissatisfaction?

 

Once you get the @Prema BIOS from HIDevolution you're going to be super happy. And, you won't need CCC if you hate the blue keyboard lights like I do. Brother Prema fixed that as well as the "breathing" lid lights. I LOVE my default white keyboard and static lighting on the lid... I am extra happy about that. @Donald@HIDevolution and @Ted@HIDevolution are going to have a very busy Tech Support team pretty soon when it's time to roll out the Prema Magic.

 

I think there are a couple of things that CCC does that we may need... some older models for example don't have the headphone jack work after sleep without CCC installed. I will be checking for that in my review, and if those things are problem-free without CCC, I believe I'll be able to flat out recommend no CCC installation to users (happily). Does the Prema mod have the capability to set the colour in CCC at will? Even if it's just basic (red/purple/blue/green) in a list? That would be amazing.

 

My headphones work fine without CCC. The only advantage to having CCC is the more aggressive fan profile when set to Overclock. I've been doing fine without that, just disabled the fan control feature in the BIOS and let the EC do all the work. FN+1 is available for benching without CCC. I did several hours of gaming without CCC and never heard my fans running, and the temps were still OK without the OC profile. But, it is nice having the more aggressive fans when set to Overclock. They are not obnoxious either way.

If you like using Flexiaccess, the new version works over WiFi and BT, so that's nice... no need for pairing over BT, it just works with no extra fuss.

And, no on the colors without CCC. It just changes the tacky blue color to white and stops the spastic lid breathing pattern. Now that my keyboard is white I am happy because I don't care about changing colors.

 

Ah, no, I meant if you put the notebook to sleep and wake it up, headphone jacks would not work anymore. I know it was a problem on the P6xxSx models; haswell/maxwell. If it's no longer a problem here, and people don't need the backlight changed from white, then hey... that's amazing. No need for CCC.

 

Yeah, the default blue sucked. It made me angry every time I turned it on, LOL. I love blue in general, but not for keyboard lighting. I know that is a personal preference thing, but it seriously diminished my pleasure of ownership having it be blue by default and not wanting CCC installed.

I was not aware of the wake from sleep issue with the headphones, but I have sleep and hibernation disabled and would never care or notice because I never use those features. I turn my system off completely when I am finished using it.

 

LOL. I prefer purple or red for my keyboard myself. Honestly, green looks realllly nice, but it reminds me of Razer.

Yeah, the sleep issue would never affect you, so I made a point to say it and that I would check it. Hopefully, CCC is unobtrusive in the form Prema has given you, and that if any upside to having it installed is present, I would be able to say "hey, these Prema machines, they're fine. Otherwise, you should keep CCC uninstalled or use a custom install to get proper machine functionality and avoid fan problems".

 

The Mod is using enthusiast FAN profiles as well as white and non flashing LEDs by default in order cater to the target audience of professional user and pro-sumer.
Not having a workstation look like a toy at every boot, yet being able to take it home and switch to the week-end color profile is a nice feature.

 

Under most circumstances I love red and blue as colors. Most of the cars I have owned over the years were bright fire engine red.

I really like green, white and yellow keyboard lighting. The red and blue are not bright enough to suit me, especially in a dark room. White is always good... perfect and professional looking compromise that is nice and bright, but doesn't clash with anything or look garish when you don't want to look garish. And, I agree... every time I see the green, I like it for a moment, but then I think of Razer garbage and change my mind instantly.

Exactly! And, it looks absolutely amazing, I might add. When it rebooted after the flash I went from zero to ecstatic in like 2 seconds.

 

I'm going to marry your mod and my soon-to-be-had machine and they're going to destroy... erm... whatever task I feel like tossing at it every single day.

 

Is the same possible for the P870DM-G?
Also if I'm able to grab a 7700k, do you think you will have time to cook something for us DM1 peasants? 8)

 

I would need to see a confirmation from your Doctor that your heart is healthy enough to survive extreme stress conditions... ...it's on my long to-do-list...

 

Aye aye.

 

This is with the same settings... 46x4, 46 cache, otherwise 100% stock (Prema BIOS defaults) voltage and power settings set with CCC... XTU not installed. CCC has OC profile for fans.

Edit: the XMP1 3000 profile was also applied with CCC without entering the BIOS.

 

Bummer, I was hoping the default LCD panel light would be off. I think it looks super tacky no matter what color it is, TBH.

 

Can't wait for the Prema Bios

 

This got me curious.

For those of us who program and do it on the go, is it possible to use a tablet as a portable monitor with a laptop?

 

I believe it is... don't quote me on this though. The tablet would need some sort of "in" port. HDMI-in, displayport-in, etc

 

Few questions about the settings you chose. I had seen in the original post where power limit can be maxed out as the CPU will only use the power it needs. I was just wondering if there is a reason you chose to use 95 Watts for power limit 1 and 118.75 watts for power limit 2. Would it make a difference from maxing the power limit out or running it at a higher setting. Also power limit time what would be the advantage of lowering the power limit time?

 

Actually, the lid with static white looks really classy. It toned it down and I really like it. I wanted of off before with the breathing green.

Yeah, if it is Android there is an app for that. Let me find it for you. I used it a year or two ago just for something goofy to play around with. It worked OK but small screens suck so I quickly lost interest in it. It even showed in Windows display settings like a monitor.

 

Because I was showing what could be done by noobs with zero effort overclockimg, not having to tinker with anything and those are BIOS defaults. I did not choose anything except multipliers for 4.6GHz cool and stable overclock.

To be clear, those are not my tuned settings, but I know some folks are scared of overclocking. Anyone with no experience can do what I demonstrated, and 4.6GHz is a respectable clock speed by anyone's measurement.

 

Oh, if it's white that's not as bad. All the colors available in the CCC look terrible, frankly, especially the default green.

 

Golden Gate Park is green.

 

That would be handy in the following situation:

Imma be one of those crazy thingies programmers / PS workers XD

Maybe I can stretch the programming and file tree on a tablet that would sit next to the laptop (vertically) so it expands the view just enough to make programming go smoother.

As for how we make it stand, guess there ought to be some kind of solution, gonna tie it up and hang it if need be, but 17.3" ain't really nuff big of a display, and sometimes I have to code on the go



BTW, seems that this thread made my mind. I will delid. Not sure when, but Imma be getting one of those crazy things and delidding sooner or later. (Guess it's study thermal paste time soon, eh?)

For a thermal paste, me wants something like those white things, no liquid metal. I'm really clumsy and don't want any risks.

 

@Georgel - here you go, buddy... iDisplay... http://getidisplay.com/

This is not very useful to me with a 7-inch Kindle Fire, but if you had a 10-inch tablet with 1080p it might be more useful. But, it is pretty cool in a geeky kind of way. It works over WiFi.

Spoiler: Good luck reading your email...

It would be a shame to not use Liquid Ultra, at least between the IHS and die. If you're super paranoid and accident prone, put Kryonaut under the IHS and IC Diamond on top. DO NOT glue the IHS back on, because I think you'll end up needing to replace normal paste, whereas the CLU will just about last forever between the IHS and die.

 

Why would anyone NOT use CLU between the IHS and the die.
I think LINUSs video proved that using anything other than CLU is a waste of time and yields almost no gains.

 

Ebook Sorry @D2 Ultima

The only reasons to have a low power limit are:
1) If you care about the power draw (bought JOKEBOOk) Aka Don't like proper hardware and hate proper performance!!
2) Stay within the limits of a cooling solution(JOKEBOOK design). The JUNK will be
3) To stay within the limits of a cheap VRM(Same as above... Because you chose to buy the trash).

Many overclockers will just blanket max out all power limits because they can and have hardware that can be overclocked. However, this is not always the best idea - if you have a cheap motherboard and/or little VRM cooling (as is often always the case in JOKEBook's), then there will be a safe limit to how much power your board can supply which you don't really want to exceed.

Edit. Any better? http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...3-owners-lounge.797458/page-205#post-10426704 Maybe one of the reasons BGA is alive and that we might not get rid of?

 

I don't have an e-book monopoly, feel free xD

As for the power limit scenario, laptops with bad hardware (or just are anti-consumer) will often limit power draw at a deeper level. Your settings won't matter. MSI did this on their GT70 and GT60 CPUs. ASUS locks skylake to 75w. I have heard Alienware locks to 100w with the unlocked BIOS in their new models. MSI is a current unknown (to me, anyway). Gigabyte (including Aorus) and Razer aren't capable of cooling much. The rest I didn't mention don't really make high end notebooks... especially if they cost $9000

Sent from my OnePlus 1 using the force

 

Spoiler: Have a look...

 

That looks like you're having lots of fun !

About thermal paste, I am the one person in this world you don't want to apply something risky at small levels

I get kinda stressed fast and my hand tends to slip under stress

So... If not using CLU, it's better to not delid at all?

Your post made me smile.

That hot thingy there to be specific