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Try these settings but set all multipliers to 42, everything else remains the same as in the settings below:

If you experience instability, set the core voltage offset to -100mV for both CPU/Cache

 

It looks like they are applied in the screen shot, but it appears the CPU is idling. Unless you disable C-States it will slow down at idle, which is normal. Load the CPU and see if it boosts to 4.2GHz under load. If the power limits are too low it will not reach full boost clocks.

You may find ThrottleStop to be more effective and may offer more features than XTU as well.

 

I found that even with C-States enabled, the clock sticks @ 4.2 GHz rock solid if my settings above are applied exactly.

PS: those are your settings actually

 

Hi,

I have updated the screenshot to show its under load. Its really wierd!!!

 

@benson881

are you sure your power plan is set to high performance and not balanced / entertainment in the Clevo Control Center?

 

Your power limits need to be increased. Copy the settings @Phoenix showed and see what happens.

That will also interfere. Set it to high performance and set the Minimum Processor State in the advanced settings options to 100% for battery and AC power.

 

@benson881

also, please try a core voltage offset of -100mV and see if it makes a difference

 

Great idea bro, I totally forgot about that little power tweak! Thanks for reminding us.

 

@Phoenix
Yep, I am on High Performance. Also I think my settings are the same as I have just copied them

@Mr. Fox
Thanks for the battery thing. I have changed that and applied a -100 mV instead of - 150 mV and no change

 

Grab the latest version of ThrottleStop from @unclewebb signature in the ThrottleStop thread and see if you can do more. It looks like you have the crippled stock BIOS and ThrottleStop may help you circumvent some overclock blocking crap that might be holding you back. Kill XTU because having it running at the same time as ThrottleStop can create conflicts with accessing registers and OC mailboxes. In fact, reboot and do not launch XTU or just uninstall it and try using ThrottleStop alone. You can always reinstall XTU later if you feel compelled to use it.

 

@Mr. Fox

Thanks Phoenix is gonna have a quick look for me. But I will look in Throttlestop.

 

OK, he can most likely help you get it sorted if there is not a lock of some sort involved. If you continue having issues and it still does not want to cooperate, ThrotteStop might help you turn off any overclock locks blocking you in the BIOS. You have to actually enable overclocking and the stock max core speed for 6700K on 4 cores is 4.0GHz. It looks like you may be locked to the stock frequencies. See the check box and max OC value. The max is the limit (not static) available to the multipliers. Just set it to something ridiculous like 80 to keep it out of your way. It has to be set at least as high as your multipliers or it will cap your clock speed. I prefer to just pull the cork out and throw it away, then I never have to think about it any more.



The nice thing about ThrottleStop is the ability to create on-the-fly profiles. That's a sweet feature @unclewebb blessed us with and I have been using it for years.

 

@Mr. Fox

I checked his system man, all settings are right, nothing I change in XTU makes a difference. He is running the stock XMG BIOS, an old one even. Probably old EC Firmware as well.

Something doesn't sound right, XTU is not applying any settings

 

See my previous post and screen shots. Maybe ThrottleStop will release the BIOS OC lock. Uninstall XTU, at least until you find out what ThrottleStop can/can't do. If you leave XTU installed, be sure it is not running in the system tray and kill the service. As soon as I saw the slider for BCLK was maxed out at 100MHz I knew it had the crippled Clevo BIOS. I was able to run 4.5GHz with the original (possibly much older pre-release) BIOS using stock voltage. Clevo may have figured out it was too good that way and "fixed" it.

 

@Prema -

I cannot get Fire Strike to run at all beyond 1.4 GHz. It insta-crashes even with 1.2 V and with the 362.00 driver. Furthermore, my CPU is stuck at 3.4 GHz for 4 cores, so my physics score sucks as well. So, all in all - my typical score is 4600, give or take.

 

I'll have a go again with Throttle Stop on his system.

BRB

 

If you haven't already tried it, ThrottleStop may help your situation as well... might be worth considering if you haven't.

 

I think our new friend went to bed as he disappeared

Going home and will BRB in 45 mins

 

Lol..... Sorry mate. It's nearly 1am in the morning. Just got your message about throttle stop on my phone (Tapatalk) if I get chance could you maybe look tomorrow?
Thanks for looking earlier BTW.

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btw. @Phoenix I habe HT,SpeedStep,C-States all turned on @ 4.5Ghz and i haven't throttled at all. Not sure why it did it for you. But it maybe one of the Power Profile settings mentioned by @Mr. Fox , I just checked mine and its all at 100%. Maybe that was the reason with your system?
I had a similar issue with XTU when i first got the system, i basically reinstalled XTU and that seemed to fix it.
Also try stressing the processor with Prime95 or Realbench.

 

Nope, haven't considered it yet. I downloaded it, but it looks seriously complicated. How do I start using it?

 

I don't have XTU and hope I never have to install that virus. I have Intel Speed Shift, AES, Hyperthreading all enabled.

My CPU never throttles only in 3DMark it does but the average speed is 4.2 GHz as reported by HWiNFO

 

Might be a few variables in there before it will run optimal. We use it with 980M's so I have to say it does work on at least....Some Maxwell's.
I haven't even moved up that high yet in drivers. LOL

Nice scores yet again.

Yeah, I can actually make your cpu literally never throttle at all, but you would never be able to run your computer because the cpu would be far to hot. at just stock speeds for the most part.
So be glad that they do have those slow down times or shut down a core or two, because it surely helps on maintain temps......Just some side info....

 

You will need to do some testing find out what voltage settings are ideal for your CPU. If you raise your multipliers you will likely need some extra voltage.

You can set power limits as high as you want to and a non-Extreme CPU will never exceed its fused max TDP. In the case of an unlocked mobile Extreme, or desktop X or K, the CPU it will never use more than it needs, so no need to worry about overdoing it on power limits. Just having ThrottleStop running and turned on with BIOS defaults even no overclock will probably make an improvement. The first time you launch ThrottleStop it will give you a warning and then adopt whatever your current BIOS settings are (whether good or bad, whatever they are) and include those in the new INI file it creates. As you change settings it will update the INI file and registry with your custom settings. This is an oversimplified explanation, but should be enough as a quick-starter to get you pointed in the right direction.

Below are some videos from my YouTube channel that may help and if you search on YouTube you will find other videos besides mine. These videos are using older versions of ThrottleStop, so you will see some differences in the UI. The current version also supports more than quad-core CPUs.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=throttlestop

 

Now it starts to get less and less performance increase as you can see . But although an improvement in wPRIME 32M - Now 4.247 sec
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@Phoenix can you please edit my wPRIME 32M score on the first page... And the old one is still the wrong 32M score (4.248 sec and not 4.250 sec ). The new 32M score is 4.247 sec



http://hwbot.org/submission/3167432_papusan_wprime___32m_core_i7_6700k_4sec_247ms?recalculate=true

 

What benchmark is safe to use on 6700K?..

I mean what benchmark will not fry the thing?

Also for graphics, is there a "best" benchmark for GTX980?

 

Done boss

 

CPU = Cinebench and wPrime 32M (not the torture test that will fry your CPU within 60 seconds )

Graphics = Firestrike or 3DMark11

 

You forgot wPRIME 1024M stress test. An ingenious stress test This should also been pumped out to. This test is more like heavy use of the processor. Only follow temp during the stress test first time

 

That test should be run only for stability check like AIDA64, not recommended to abuse a CPU with it always.

 

If you are in search for new numbers , then there is no other choice than to push on with more of the same stress tests

 

Yes but I wouldn't recommend it to the average Joe d00d, that stability test puts a lot of strain on the CPU and makes temps go so high which isn't the case under normal usage situations or gaming. Thus, I recommend running it once to verify an overclock is stable even under extreme situations, not as a hobby to run every 120 seconds like you. J/K

 

Bought this machine mostly for hunting numbers and follow the forum . + That everything is socket hardware and not *** junk . Is very pleased with the machine, but the ram isn't of superb quality so this will be the next must have + extra 330w .
There were some on the forum which was very persuasive about a purchase of this laptop. I don't need to mention his name(I am pretty sure that all of you know who I'm talking about) . But he had very right in this . Thanks for good advice.

 

@Phoenix @Mr. Fox
Followed that video for updating the BIOS. I didn't have a step 1 or 2 so selected the flash.exe it has updated OK. I didn't do the WMeset thing. Hope that doesn't matter. Anyway, did a quick test and the core multipliers seem to be working again did a 5 min stress testing seem to peak at about 73° with a - 150 mv at 4.2ghz Might repaste and keep it it to 41 for the time being.

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Try 4.3 GHz on all cores with a -100mV then do an AIDA64 Stress for 5 mins and see the max temps and if no throttling.

Monitor the Throttling/temps/clock speeds using HWiNFO on the side

 

Don't you think 4.3 will hold at - 150 mv?

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nope, too low of a voltage. try -130mV, if not stable, try -120mV, then try -115mV

till you hit the sweet spot for low temps / highest attainable overclock on your CPU

 

Hi All,

I am currently overclocking my GTX980, so far I have found that +125 MHz core and +150 memory is stable in both Firestrike and all the games I have played so far. I have successfully run Firestrike at +150 MHz core and +175 memory, however games tend to crash at this overclock. My GPU max temps are 76c with full fan profile and 78c with the overclock fan profile. My max voltage I have recorded is 1.168v.

I guessing the instabilities in game are due to the voltage being to low, is this correct? What is the maximum safe voltage for this card?

Thanks guys!

 

The thing is, CPU cooling on the W230SS sucks, so if I use even stock settings, my 4710MQ begins thermal throttling under high load (X-Plane 10, P95, etc.). Nevertheless - I'll take a look at the videos and see if I can make something out of it.

 

All benchmarks are safe. It's the users you have to watch out for.

Ignore any advice to run abusive "stress tests" for extended time periods. Those make about as much sense as parking your car with a cinder block on the accelerator pedal to find out if the engine will blow up. Also avoid leaving home with something cooking on the stove top, keep medications out of reach, don't point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot, and don't leave your children unattended.

 

This is the best analogy I've ever heard. Nice one, @Mr. Fox.

 

This really made me laugh!

Thank you! I needed it today.

So, I should actually avoid doing benchmarks at all then, and just keep playing. If I get a crash or BSOD, I take it lower, if not, keep overclocking?

I take that just playing games with oc is actually better for the entire system, if game does not crash, BSOD or other funny things, no?

I am yet to do my first real benchmark, and even so, I am much more interested in enjoying the product than breaking the world record for oc.

 

I'm going to have to disagree here...
I am much more interested in breaking the world record for oc than enjoying the product for gaming.

Fixed that for ya.

 

By all means, run benchmarks and enjoy them. The best plan is to run them all stock a few times. Make note of your scores, clock speeds and thermals. This should serve as a baseline for you to gauge your results as you begin to add overclocking into the mix.

Overclocking aside, running most of the popular benchmarks is not much different than playing games. Some games include benchmarks and there are some that have benchmarks available as a free standalone, almost like a demo. That lets you "try before you buy" and see how your system runs on the game benchmark before wasting money on something you might not like.

When you do start tinkering with overclocked benchmarks, take it slow and methodical. Make changes in small increments and measure performance, monitor thermals, etc. One approach that can be discouraging is starting with the bar set too high. It is very addictive and it will grow on you, but if you come out of the chute intending to set new world records and replicate results of experienced overclockers on day one it will end up being disappointing. When you take things in small increments you get to know your hardware and develop a skill set that you will never develop trying to copy another person's settings and shooting for a new world record using a machine you are not even familiar with yet.

Don't let instability hold you back. BSOD, freezes, etc. can be an indication of many things, including hardware problems. More often than not they are a symptom of user error. Out of 10 CPUs or 10 GPUs of an identical product model, you may find 3 that run the same using identical settings. Finding out what your hardware likes best when overclocked is a process that takes time, trial and error. Give it the time it deserves and it will be fun and rewarding, but a few lockups and blue screens along the way is just part of the process.

I can tell you this much... for every benchmark that is a world record there are at least a few dozen that failed or were not a world record.

 

Thanks, bro.

So many people that do not understand benching confuse it will stress testing. People that run repeated stress tests and abuse their hardware are not overclockers. They are just stupid. Running things like wPrime, Cinebench, Unigine Heaven, 3DMark 11 or Fire Strike is not the same as something foolish like an 8 hour Prime95 or an overnight OCCT CPU torture test, or an hour long Furmark "burn in" test. The latter is how noobs ruin good hardware that would survive many happy years of heavy benching and gaming without ever missing a beat. I don't care if my CPU can run full-tilt at 4.8GHz for 2 days without overheating, but I do care if it can finish a timed benchmark with a nice score and acceptable thermals.

 

I need some time to bench. Been so busy, got two tests Wednesday, hopefully after that I can start.

I was in SoCal for a couple of days, should of taken my P870DM with me and met up with @johnksss so he can bench it for me while I was there LOL

 

I agree wholeheartedly. Interestingly when I place emphasis on treating my CPU with some sliver of care and safety while still overclocking, I get told by dumb-dumbs that "OC is not for you" or "get a BGA" ROFL. But yeah, my CPU was passing 5 min stress tests and still hardbooting in the middle of games (in minimal undervolt with just STOCK clocks). Obviously this was with a flawed CPU, but I think it still reminded me how much better it is to just real-world stress test anyway. The same reason I roll my eyes when I see people post about their OC achievements with a CPU they're not even using. "I'm stable at 4.8ghz at 1.135v topping at 85C".... Well, congrats you took your mouse and clicked some places in your bios, what exactly is it that you're doing with "stability" though? Because if youre surfing the Internet and then running stress tests for 4 hours, those are two extremes where neither of those two extremes is real world usage for a power laptop like this. I can either throw my laptop in the refrigerator and take some screenshots of my temps to post on the forums, or I can go play the division on ULTRA setting for 2 hours and get some real tests without blowing up my CPU

 

This!!!

The maximum i have ever run Prime95 to stress test a certain overclock is maybe 30-40 mins, that too to make sure that everything was A-OK. Same with IBT or OCCt, i personally feel that the latter shouldn't be used for more than 15 mins.

 

Okay.

So a stress test until temperature levels. Like 5 minutes. Because after that it only repeats the same patterns.

Then..

I can only look forward to how much better will my life be due to oc. I do use the same machine for web browsing, gaming, media watching, programming, and every single activity I do. I would expect it to handle all of these with easy, in multitasking and most importantly, to not make me wait 1 minutes to transform a sound file of 10 seconds to it's lossless spectrogram. Because I study countless of these samples, and having to wait every single time to process one is a pain, and really slows down development.

If my understanding of GPUs is correct, then a +10MHz to GPU equals + 10 x 2048 real performance addition, because that would oc every cuda core, right?