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Sorry my English. Isn't NB frequency higher than 40x for stock 7700K?

 

Sure, but i don't redline parts for screen shots most of the time. So they drop to lower mhz when doing nothing.

 

OH'Well. Then is my English still good enough

 

Yes sir, it is.

 

I have a 7700k coming now too but I am dealing with a family emergency at the moment so might not be able to play for a bit

 

Sorry to hear that bud! Hope it turns out well in the end.

 

Thanks for the well wishes, it has not turned out well but we are together as a family.

 

Hope everything goes well. Take care of your family. First priority always.
Edit: Dang. Take care with your family

 

Thanks, i'll still be around (you are not getting rid of me that easily ) but yes, if I am slow to respond then just bear with me.

 

Wishing you and your family the best!!!

Obviously you set it negative compared to your standard OC! it just acts to throw it into lower gear automatically for AVX loads. It also allows those that like torture tests that use AVX to test "stability" to use those without leaving performance on the table. You can set the ones that use AVX at the negative offset for multiplier so that heat is never an issue with them while optimizing the everyday OC for standard heat output. I only found out Kaby had that feature last night, but it could be one of the best features on the chip (aside from high clocks and better voltage)...

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More Windows 7 testing....
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11898825

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11898837

 

Be well @Meaker@Sager !

 

Edit: double post

 

So, just saw an ad on Facebook for the AW Kaby lake. In the comments, a person asked why they have AMD GPUs used with a G-sync display. AW responded "because that is the configuration we currently have."
Face-palm!!!

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That's their 'technical answer'. The regular hotline version is 'HUH?!....beeeep...beeep...beeep

 

And a lot of people ask why the hardcore power enthusiasts have left the AW ship Maybe they can't swim?

 

I'm using P775 with GTX 1080 - not P750 XD

 

I'd take my chances drowning.. might put myself out of my mystery then

This 7700k is running stupid cool on static voltage @4.5 for 24/7 clocks. It's taking barely anything. I don't believe it.. so I'll do more testing before I share.

 

3DMark needs to add the mapping for 7700K+1080 to get the GRAPHICS CARD IS NOT RECOGNIZED error cleared (which I have requested for all of us already) but here is my first Fire Strike run at 5.0GHz. This was using max fans, so I will get serious with AC cooling and try 5.1 and 5.2GHz once I am done tinkering. I'm impressed. Using nothing but fans this maxed out at 87°C with 50x4. I am using XMP1-3000 for now. I don't have time to try to mess with getting 3200 100% stable. Score should go up a fair amount once I put the GPUs 'on ice' LOL.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17325919

 

Something seems sort of "fake" about the Kaby performance. While my temps are high running XTU benchmark without AC, they are 4°C less at 5.0GHz than they were at stock clocks before the delid+CLU, so that's actually quite good. There was no current limit or thermal throttling showing at all. Clock speeds held strong. HOWEVER, the XTU score at 50x4 is only 1597 where it was 1537 stock. I don't get that. Better than 6700K... yes. But, not by a whole lot, other than the high clock speeds without insane voltage feels really nice.

CPU Stock: http://hwbot.org/submission/3420790_mr._fox_xtu_core_i7_7700k_1537_marks/
5.0GHz: http://hwbot.org/submission/3421597_mr._fox_xtu_core_i7_7700k_1597_marks/

 

I've always considered XTU bench to be fake. Look at the jump in score from haswell to skylake versus the real world performance of the chips. When other benches scale fairly accurately, but you get 20-30% jump in XTU, with many other things being equal, it looks more like marketing.

With my general comment out of the way, let's dig in. XTU gives points on voltage efficiency, likes fast ram, and a couple other measures that don't quite get to the heart of just the overclock. It does measure system cohesion in some ways better than others, but, in my opinion, doesn't have a good bearing on real world performance. But it gives good points on hwbot, so I do it for benching. But, I hear you...

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Ah, this is easy to explain. XTU benchmark for the most part relies on RAM. The highest haswell RAM users had 1333MHz cl6 RAM with even turbo-less CPUs. I could never match them with my 1600MHz 11-11-11-27 RAM at max CPU overclocks. Your RAM is providing most of your score; if you try 3200MHz with your improved 3000MHz timings, you might even find that your XTU bench score with a stock CPU might beat your overclocked run.

Edit: I'll go a step further. If you manage to get something like cl10-cl11 out of 2666MHz, you'd probably improve even further.

 

I'm having an issue out of the blue. I cannot seem to clock higher than 4000-4100 not for some reason. All my benchmarks show there is an issue which points to poor CPU performance. No throttling is occurring and the temps look normal, maxing in the 60s as I normally do.

The only change I made recently was I started using Throttlestop. It was working fine initially so I can't imagine it is a setting but I'm open to anything now.

I ran a benchmark at 4.8, and then went back to my daily 4.6 setting. Now no matter which profile I can't run faster than about 4. I have two TS profiles that do appear to work, one is 4 (clock drops to 39xx) and one at minimal clock rate. In other words the ones below 4 work, and the ones above do not work.

I have the BIOS set at stockish settings, I think 4.2. Which I have not changed since I started using throttlestop.

Anyone have any ideas? My only idea is to dump TS and try to set my OC in BIOS again and make sure I can still do that.

 

Check the power limits.

 

300/300 in BIOS and hwinfo agrees

I just did a run of 3dmark and it was at 4.8 for first three tests, then was at 4.0 the 4rth. It's been at 4.0 the last dozen tries on all 4 tests so something was different this last time. I didnt change anything. Man what the heck is going on?

 

Turn off TS. Keep it open, just switch it off and keep using your profiles. That should fix it. Also though, it's another reason you want to get on the Prema bios.

 

Your scores look really good tho!

 

Didn't seem to change anything. Honestly, it was working fine until tonight, no throttling and same performance as others that had Prema

I can't imagine what is wrong. Everytime I try to use TS it seems I break my PC. Worked fine for a few days and tons of benchmarks, now I seems to max out at 41x, other than occasionally it will go to 4.8 or 4.6 depending on which profile I am using.

I think the next thing I will have to try is to get rid of TS and make sure I can still OC in BIOS or not.

 

That's the thing with TS, it doesn't change anything in the EC or store it there AFAIK. It all gets saved into an ini file and TS loads it when needed.
So I highly doubt it's TS causing issues. Could be that some setting is Borked and need s to be set again.

 

You're tripping your Residual Voltage for some reason. I'm sure if you click the button it would show red. You need to reboot before you try what I mentioned above.

 

Thank you for helping me BTW +rep

I doubt its a BIOS setting as I haven't changed anything since I removed the overclock when I started using TS. Is it normal not to turn TS on? Pretty sure I always had it on by default, hopefully it will start up in "off mode" so I don't have to turn it off every boot.

The only thing I noticed that looks odd/not normal to me is I am seeing a RSR "ye" in hwinfo, and I see it in TS under limit reasons too.

@TBoneSan OK, thanks. Yeah a nice cold boot sounds good about now after all these weird issues.

 

Yeah I never keep it in "active mode". I just set up the clocks etc and go my merry way. But everyone's way is different.
You can try deleting it it, and setting it up again to see if that helps.

 

Shut down TS. Delete the ThrotteStop.INI file in TS folder. Turn of laptop. Boot up again and your machine will use BIOS settings as usual. Set up TS again. Use one of the 4 profiles as default settings from Bios (Set up an decent oc in bios for this profile beforehand).

 

Ok, cold boot appeared to fix it, and I broke it again when using the 4.8 profile (4.6 worked perfect again). Cold boot fixed it again.

I had a couple BSODs while benching at 4.8 earlier, which required a power button hold down. I was considering the next power up each time being a clean cold boot, which maybe it is, but then as I switched back and forth in profiles it messed up again from the 4.8.

I was trying to increase adaptive voltage a bit to get 4.8 more stable since my temps are super low, max of 69 at 4.8. I'm guessing I did it wrong as I went back to stock voltages and it's running better again. It's just not 100% stable enough for daily clocks so I still think it need a little voltage.

Thanks for the help everyone, looks like I need to learn exactly what settings to change to increase the voltage a bit. I tried +20mv and also +40mv on adaptive on core and cache in TS but must of messed up somehow.

PS. you guys are great, I love having a place to go and ask my stupid questions.

 

Do people tend to OC on desktop using TS?

 

I just started using TS because I got tired of rebooting into bios so often and I wanted to run lower clocks when not needed. Multiple profiles for battery use, surfing, gaming and benchmarking.

Previously I've always had better luck OC in bios, also shown by the issues I'm running into now lol.

 

I prefer TS. 4 power profiles with a simple key command and almost no wasted processor cycles is a no brainer.

I have never had problems with TS.

 

Almost never

 

http://valid.x86.fr/fh1fmw
Still can't get this stable in TSBench. 4.9 is doable, but 5.0 seems to crash instantly, even at +200.

 

Finally broke 16K physics in Fire Strike. Also, just got my best-ever Cinebench R11.5 and R15 scores. And, I still haven't even tried more than 50x4 yet. Fun stuff.

 

@jaybee83 - still need to work on making 3200 all it can be, but 3000 is looking better with tighter timings.

 

Is that 15-17-18-39? For 3000? Getting close to that 14-14-14-34 dream!

Does this work on 6700K at all? Or is this purely 7700K power?

 

Yes for the first question. I am pretty sure it would work for 6700K.
Edit: No, it's CL15-17- 17-39
Here's this...

 

With that memory, try a stock speed XTU bench. See if you beat your 1597 score. =D

Edit: by stock I mean including Turbo

 

I'm on a roll and don't want to disturb my BIOS settings. I have it set for 5.0GHz and the memory speeds shown. I need to at least take photos first of all the CPU settings so I don't lose track of them. It needs to be more consistent, so I am playing with voltage and power settings to try to optimize it. At 5.1 is should be a little past 1600, but I'm not ready for that yet. Still testing 5.0GHz to see what it can do with no AC cooling. So far, zero evidence of thermal throttling of the CPU.

 

Wohoo I am getting Prema Mod, too. Can't wait!

THX @Donald@HIDevolution, @Ted@HIDevolution, @Zoltan@HIDevolution, @thattechgirl_viv

P.S: I know that MANY of you have written me mails that I haven't gotten back to, yet.
I have been VERY busy for a long time now and been riding on a bumpy road in RL.
PLEASE be patient with me! I am trying to help wherever I can...

 

LOL

I still haven't received the official HIDE Prema mod for me DM1 (probably because im too lazy to take my system to their office)

 

Why take it to the office?

 

Old versions where not remote flashed, yet.