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Well last i checked , they had a strict policy of not mailing anyone the Prema Mod files. And there was no remote flashing option.
But @Prema himself helped me out

Multiple times i must add.

 

I actually figured you could change a setting in throttlestop for a profile, but I guess that's interesting in its own way. Wonder why it dropped?

 

Who actually has bench anything at 5.0 ghz on a 6700K? Other than me running this quick test @ 5.0Ghz
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11184458

Best i did was this, but have since not been able to get back to it.
3100Mhz@ 15-17-17-35-475

Ah, got it. Thanks.

 

Take your time good sir! Sent some ice cream your way. And hope things are fine IRL.

 

Decided to run another test of XTU.
5.0Ghz No AC



Edit: Just finished talking with Jarnis and they fixed the 1080 string for at least the 0877 deviceid.

 

We should apologize for bombing you with mails and messages though

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Hope that things are going well IRL for you!!

 

are they gonna flash it for j00 remotely via Windows as well?

 

They have to add everything from '0870' to '0878', with the exception of '0874' to stay on top of it.

 

now we're talking Chinese

 

For mobile Pascal GPUs 3DM does a motherboard check to keep Notebooks and small form factor PCs separate.

 

Patience is a virtue. All good things come to those who wait and all that (even though I find this second one to be problematic in practice).

We all thank you for all you have done for this community! Thank you!

Sorry, have only benched at 5.1 on my 4790K in a laptop. I don't have a 6700K machine, otherwise I'd post to share (assuming I could reach 5.0)...

 

I think I lowered the core voltage a little more, which decreased performance just slightly for XTU. I do not actually view the XTU benchmark as being a high priority items. I usually focus on optimizing for Futuremark benchmarks and Cinebench and don't care too much about the XTU benchmark score in particular.

 

So, if I understand correctly... what's you're saying is, they manipulate the results to help SFF not get it's digital ass kicked by a laptop?

Is it realistic for us to expect anything but deception and manipulation from the NVIDIOTS? They are the masters of that, are they not?

 

I ordered a Silicon Lottery 7700K from HIDevolution rated at only 5.0 GHz (assuming that's in a desktop with better cooling) as that's the max speed that Silicon Lottery offers for now

when I get my CPU, please tell me what shall I do before installing it? reset BIOS to defaults right?

then? do I need to play with the voltages or just keep the power limits maxed out and set the multipliers to 50X on all cores?

Also, what Cache Ratio shall I use? I hope I don't get the audio crackling BS I am getting now with my 6700K when I overclock the Cache

 

For only $300 boxed retail and free shipping, I can't complain. Awesome CPU without having to pay Silicon Lottery premiums.

The BIOS will reset itself when you power on after you install the CPU. I did not reset defaults before swapping them.

As far as settings go, you'll have to play around with it and see what works best for your CPU. I'm still figuring out what mine likes. Other than lower voltage needs, it's not much different than 6700K and your old BIOS settings will work for you.

You can probably run it 4.9 or 5.0GHz with stock voltage. I set my cache max OC at 80 same as core, so it is supposed to match the core clock automatically. It did on 6700K, but my 7700K seems to be ignoring any cache ratio higher than 47x for some reason. It may be user error, but I haven't identified how to make it go higher than 47x yet.

 

So, you paid a premium to get a chip that you had a better than 50/50 chance of getting off the shelf? I'm confused by this. They have 5.1GHz available right now. Those chips cost about $80 over retail and guarantee in top 1/4 of chips currently tested by them (instead of the $30 premium paid for the top 62%). Not trying to be an ass, but mathematically, I'm not sure if the 5.0GHz chips are worth it, since you are likely to get that off of a standard retail chip, while having a good chance you could get lucky and get one the 5.1 or 5.2 range, which you rule out by getting the 5.0. In other words, you are paying $30 to guarantee your chip is in the range of top 62%-24%, which you already have a 38% chance of getting when buying a retail sample. You have guaranteed that you have no chance at getting the worst 38%, but ruled out the best 24% as well. I only see value in purchasing the top 24% or above binned chips for that reason...

 

I thought cache is intentionally kept low since it doesn't really help benchmark performance in any significant way?

 

$300!? Where?

 

oh trust me, with my crappy luck, I know my CPU will probably not reach more than 4.7 GHz hence why I opted for a Silicon Lottery one........

Spoiler: My crappy CPU luck experience

First system I had was a barebone Clevo P870DM-G with a 6700K that couldn't even run stable at 4.2 GHz x4 (on all cores that is). Next system which was a Eurocom Sky X9 also had a 6700K, this time a bit better, it was able to do 4.3 GHz stable.

I have seen many users here complain about high temps even at stock speeds. The 6700K is a hit or miss, 50-50 chance to get a good one. Even if you don't want to overclock, spending a bit more to get a Silicon Lottery one ensures your CPU will run cooler overclocked or not. Giving you better thermals and longevity since the CPU won't be running hot constantly.
This Silicon Lottery CPU I got (rated to run @4.8GHz in a desktop) can run @ 4.7 GHz not very stable pr 4.6 GHz stable all day long with max temps of 85C no matter what I throw at it.

Not taking any chances, it's not like I'm in the USA like you guys where I could just easily return my CPU if I don't like it. It would cost me a lot to ship it back and forth only to get another surprise

 

LOL

 

If you purchased a retail one and you weren't happy with it. You could sell it and take the loss (equal what you paid extra for the silicon lottery chips). And tried a new one. You can't go very wrong with Kaby lake. And you could be lucky with the next

 

no time to do this bro, I have better things to focus on than buying, installing, pasting, and reselling CPUs

Time is m0n3y

 

Damn, I paid 385 for mine.

 

Almost Same say the BGA boys. They get the new Awbook's with the Tripod cpu heatsink mess. Time is valued and they can't put of time for applying new paste on the ****y. They return it for a new one. And The new one will be equal. So goes the weeks. Time is valuable and time is money. Oh'well.

 

it's not the same, I don't enjoy unscrewing 20 screws, repasting, bla bla bla, give me one good CPU and I'm done. The Silicon Lottery 6700K was the best CPU I ever owned and was worth every p3nny

 

But, with Kaby Lake, for perspective, 91% can do 4.9GHz and is sold at $350 by SL. This is basically saying 9 out of every 10 chips will be able to do this. Unless you think you will get in the bottom 9%, which mathematically is unlikely, but can happen, you would be able to improve your overclock without worry. this means that there is a 9% chance the chips do 4.8GHz, a 29% chance of doing 4.9, 38% chance that it will do 5.0, 20% chance it will do 5.1, and 4% chance for 5.2. In other words, to approximate, 1 in 10 will only do 4.8, 3 in 10 will do 4.9, 4 in 10 will do 5.0, 2 in 10 will do 5.1, and 1 out of every 20 do 5.2...

Edit: this means there is a 7 in 10 chance of getting 4.9-5.0. This is why I said, if buying a binned chip, it only makes sense to shift the odds in your favor-paying for the 5.1 or 5.2 chips guarantee you are in the top end of the chips (which you have a 2 in 10 chance for 5.1 and 1 in 20 for the 5.2, or, combined, around a 1 in every 4 chip chance of getting above 5.1), whereas paying retail will get you a good chip regardless.

 

well it's a bit late now, the CPU is flying to me

 

Can't find it anywhere for $300. Paid $380.

 

Source please -

Source please - "But, with Kaby Lake, for perspective, 91% can do 4.9GHz..."
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Silicon lottery.

 

Source came from Silicon Lottery.
"As of 1/05/17, the top 91% of tested 7700Ks were able to hit 4.9GHz or greater."

 

the rest 9% will act more or less equivalent as a jihad suicide vest

 

Siliconlottery.com - granted this is but one binning company's early current findings, but they usually stay true over the first six months of release, so long as they've binned enough for an accurate statistical sample...

Edit: please note my prior discussion and Johnksss's insights into purchasing binned chips in this thread. This is findings on a desktop setup with a specific voltage, it doesn't guarantee heat, etc. Because our boards are different and we have tight thermal constraints, these numbers are not guaranteed in laptops.

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Paid 329.99 for mine.

I thought Brother Fox was doing all the other ones so i just asked to do mine.

 

Microcenter?
Fry's here was at $350.
Just ordered it off of Amazon for the covinience.
Wish I was close to to Santa Ana. NoHo barely has any decent stores.

 

True they had to have tested at least 25 plus as was mentioned in a earlier post as they stated 5.2ghz were the top 4%.

 

Microcenter always seems to have cheaper processors for some reason.

 

Probably many more, but 25 is nowhere near a representative sample.

 

You need thousands to get an accurate statistical sample for high confidence rating and to be within a couple percent in each category. You need tens of thousands to reduce it to under a 1% statistical variance. And that is before counting production facility variance, etc.

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I would assume that wont happen for a long time. How many processors do you think they can test in a day running at least 1 hour benchmark. Just depends on how many employees and rigs they have but my guess is the market is not saturated with people looking to buy a silicon lottery chip.

 

I'm guessing they've currently done hundreds from trays, if not crossing the thousand threshold by now, giving under a 5% variance in those percents currently, but maybe not to 2-3% which takes 2,000-3,000 to approach. If the chips they got were all from one production facility, then it is not representative of the market as a whole and variance could be higher.

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That would be truly impressive if they have been through that many chips so far.

 

Cheapest price here home is $435 usd Maybe the prices will go down when more pieces come in sales. If I order outside Norway on the web will +25% be added on the top of the chips and shipping. Complete computers is cheap home but spare parts aka same hardware in the computers is expensive.

 

@Prema Ok, I just added the ones you listed to the list.

That's still not a problem. Frys will price match Microcenter as long as Microcenter has them in stock at the time of purchase.

I have one of those top 4 percenters.
But....we still don't know if it's possible to go higher yet.

Yes. And frys doesn't understand why either.

True, but in this case. It is nowhere near that far off the mark of what is possible.

 

Just have someone from the US ship one over to you. And declare it as a gift.

 

If you setup 15 machines and estimate 1.5 hours and 16 hours per day, you get 1600 tested in 10 days. This is simply locking the voltage to 1.42 - 1.44, increase multiplier until it crashes instantly, drop multiplier one, then running for an hour stress test. Not rocket science or optimization.

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Lol Frys is now at 379.99.
Will they price match even if Microcenters price is instore only?

 

I am not sure where mine (sitting on my desk) stands but sure am itching for next week to come when the bios is released!!

 

Go to newegg, currently at $350

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Yes, it is harder for you guys to get hardware. This is so true, but it's also something you guys are use to so you account for the price increase. . No one likes it, but it's part of life in that part of the world.

They will price match Amazon if it's sold by Amazon.

Does newegg charge taxes and shipping?