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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. FredSRichardson

    FredSRichardson Notebook Groundsloth

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    Doh! Thanks! =)
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Umm.. Not the DM2/Dm3 :p



    Sweet improved a bit -

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  3. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Way to muscle in on them 6700k's @Prema

    Side note:
    New World Record for us in the laptop game.
    [​IMG]
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Just wow.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Does 32M benefit from cache at all ?
     
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    I would gather their must be some sort of benefit. @Papusan swears by it. I just don't see it though. Only if I drop the cache too low or raise it to high that I see diminishing returns.
     
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    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    That's a 2012 system with i7-3740QM IvyBridge & DDR3 destroying every single 2016/17 BGA system with 1060.
    If I would put it in the DM3 at the same clocks it would't be the as much fun. ;)
     
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    Johnksss .

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    This one and only time....it is you i'm afraid... :(
     
  12. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I think around 300 under max core. I can't tell for the higher clocks from Kaby as I haven't the chips.
     
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  13. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Oh no, I was just looking at the graphics score for 2200MHz core. On desktops that would be well over 14K, from what I remember. (I want you to beat the desktops too =D)
    It's okay if I'm wrong, I just learn more when proven to be so! If I was actually 24/7 right, the world wouldn't be fun =D
     
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    AKHIL Notebook Guru

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    I'll give it a better test later tonight. Will try different cache settings.
    Thanks sir!

    You know I was joking with ya right. :p
     
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  16. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    I don't know xD. I usually take as serious until said otherwise, unless emotes like the :p are included ^_^. It's all good =D
     
  17. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Test also with a lower clock speed. See if you notice same difference/behavior for high vs. lower clock speed.
     
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    My bad. :)

    Will do.
     
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    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    It's no problem at all, I didn't take it as anything offensive or lashing out xD. We're all good here
     
  21. ajc9988

    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Check if that bench uses AVX. If so, compare to the avx offset, etc.

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  22. clayton006

    clayton006 Notebook Evangelist

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    I could adjust the AVX offset lower for sure but I probably don't need to. It's sitting at 4.8GHz just fine.


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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    New walk-through for @Prema BIOS that was just released to partner shops, including @Donald@HIDevolution and @Ted@HIDevolution and @Eurocom Support for distribution to their customers. And, a HUGE shout out to the newest Prema Partner... our friend @Larry@LPC-Digital !!!! Welcome, sir! Here is the full list of PremaMod Partner Shops.

    Please see the special messages at the end of the clip. Great work by Prema and the team of testers that helped validate the success.



    @Phoenix - try this and use the ThrottleStop settings already provided. Below are the temps running the 4.6GHz ThrottleStop profile with the BIOS settings shown in the video while rendering this video.

    [​IMG]
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I'm very happy to see @Larry@LPC-Digital as a Prema partner! For the few interactions I've had, they've been nothing but good (DISCLAIMER: talking about discussions in forums, not purchases. To date, I've purchased from AVA direct and Pro-Star, before Prema partners really started to take off... I am willing to share those experiences, just wanted to clarify...)

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  25. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Yeah, Larry is awesome. Everyone that knows his loves him. It is going to be wonderful having LPC-Digital as a Prema partner. @Trafficante bought a couple of systems from Larry and only has great things to say about it. And, unless I am mistaken, I believe Brother @HTWingNut gets most of his forum reviewed machines from @Larry@LPC-Digital .
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    You know I've got to run my skylake at 5.2 at some point now...

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    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Larry has also been extremely helpful to me and helped well with my sister's notebooks which came from them (the N155RF models). Very nice member to have on the seller list.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    People choose laptops Jokebooks because they are pretty :eek:
    IMG_9845.PNG
     
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    While roaming around CES, I think I seen a total of about 2 really high end laptops(Defined by MSI standards). No Clevos. Only Msi's and Alienware's. And the rest all lower end notebooks. These were what everyone was using at booths and in the hallways.
     
  30. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    And, we have those folks to thank for the proliferation of pathetic garbage. Sadly, once you've grown numb to the filth you become reprobate, tolerant of trash and eventually lose the ability to discern the difference between good and garbage.
     
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    At the end of the day, I will sell whatever the customer is in the market for. Whether it be BGA or Socket. Makes no difference what so ever to me.
     
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    clayton006 Notebook Evangelist

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    I grabbed my machine from LPC Digital and have been extremely impressed so far with their professionalism and customer service! Glad to have them as a Prema partner as well!


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    clayton006 Notebook Evangelist

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    At the end of the day the BGA laptops have their place. If I wanted something more portable and battery friendly to play games with, or I wanted an in between system then, sure, that's of course what I would pick. Something with minimal fan noise can't hurt as well.

    My friends call me a hardware junkie... I own just about every console short of the Atari age and NEO geo's. I carry two phones (one apple, one android), I dabble in some raspberry PI stuff, and will soon be wiring my house for 10GBe for my SAN. Point being, I love hardware in all shapes and sizes. Each laptop / server / desktop I own has its place and purpose in my house.

    The socketed systems are here to replace a desktop and they do extremely well at it. I do take my huge laptop to random places as I don't mind the weight. That being said, if I don't want to lug all of my gear around I take my surface with me or my P50 or other laptops. In addition to my Clevo unit I'll probably have another in between BGA laptop with some mild graphic chops in it that goes everywhere. My Lenovo P50 actually does pretty well.

    I can understand people trying to persuade others to going the socketed route as it has clear advantages, but it's not for everyone. Some people just want to buy something, take it home, play games and enjoy. Nothing wrong with that. Let's appreciate the fact that they are gaming on a PC in the first place ;-)

    tl;dr version - I love hardware and people should buy what they want and what fits their usage and form factor for travel or non-travel, extreme performance or commodity hardware, form or function over form.


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    So I just ran a test with cinebench115
    51X CPU / 49X Cache = 12.34
    51X CPU / 45X Cache = 12.33
    I saw a 1 point gain.
     
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    CaerCadarn Notebook Deity

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    I would like to see this walkthrough again with Man'O'War "Wheels of Fire"!
     
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  36. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    And, that's why Acer didn't make the 21x an LGA laptop, all the rest of Acer's line is BGA.

    The Acer 21x wouldn't be a very good aspirational pinnacle of the Acer gaming laptop line if it were using anything other than BGA.

    Being line representative yet otherworldly is what makes the Acer 21x all at once exceptional, yet 100% representative of what everyone else can afford to purchase from the Acer laptop line.

    Acer's 21x is designed to be it's best laptop using a laptop CPU and a laptop GPU.
     
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  37. lctalley0109

    lctalley0109 Notebook Evangelist

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    I understand the aspect of someone wanting a light, portable laptop but if they are looking for a performance laptop such as the high end Clevo laptops it really has to do more with lack of knowledge. If Clevo is not showing up to advertise these laptops in big numbers nothing will ever change as no one cares to research and main stream will always go with what stores carry and what is advertised.
    Edit: but the example of individuals thinking the computer is "pretty" is funny. At least with Clevo laptops you can go with the keyboard set to different colors if you like or you can turn it off and it looks more professional. Also, overall it looks more professional.
     
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  38. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    People care about image, they want a machine that fits in with that. Especially if they take that around in public.

    Aesthetics are personal preference so it comes down to person by person.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I couldn't care less what others think, just going by my own taste when it comes to that.
    Why anyone would wear specific clothes or buy stuff just because of their outside image is beyond me. :oops:
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Which is certainly another way of looking at it, and it can be not for others, some people like a certain image for themselves. (The person who builds a fully windowed customer water looped/cable tidied desktop and never shows anyone).
     
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  41. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Think more along the lines of a guy who sits in his shorts at a board meeting, just because he can. :D
     
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    Trashmonk Notebook Geek

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    So I just got prema BIOS installed on my system by hid customer support and it looks amazing! My problem is I wasn't able to flash the EC or remove CCC before hand. Now when I run time spy or heaven I still get CPU throttling. Do I need to reflash the EC or uninstall CCC or reinstall windows? Does the order matter?

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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Every argument for BGA is a lame excuse justifying the existence of filth. People should be free to never bathe and have horrible body odor if they enjoy wallowing in their own filth, but they should stay home so others do not have to be exposed to the fallout of their lack of discretion. I won't pretend their stench is not repulsive and I will not make any effort to mask my disgust for it. They should feel bad about making bad decisions, and I don't mind assisting them with developing a healthy sense of shame for their indescretion. The last thing I am going to do is coddle them and say it's OK to be stinky. It is not OK and they need to start making better decisions.
     
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    clayton006 Notebook Evangelist

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    Just playing devils advocate here

    Are you saying there is no use case for a BGA laptop at all? Or only for high performance purposes? Just trying to get clarification.

    To put my money where my mouth is, I do take mine places. Such as waiting in a service department showroom on my day off....

    [​IMG]

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    clayton006 Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry that I'm dragging this thread off topic. I'll go back to the owners lounge for this line of discussion. The temps picture is sorta on topic.


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  46. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The remote flash automatically updates everything in one go, so you will have Prema BIOS/EC/EC2 & ME flashed all at once. It is impossible to only have the BIOS as they work hand in hand and just doing a partial update would brick the system.
    Also CCC has no influence on the flash.

    You may just double check your settings. ;)
     
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    Lol love the expression of the lady in the background. You know she is saying to herself "damn look at that laptop".
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The longer they make you wait, the higher will be their e-bill...you are pulling from them like a small AC unit...LOL! :D
     
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    OK, that makes sense. I played around with the settings and now I don't have any throttling! However when I check my EC firmware version, it's 1.05.08g, which is the version I flashed previously. The bios version is 1.06.02EVOC v1.

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