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That's not even the version I made for them...do not put a KabyLake CPU into that system and contact their customer support...

Edit: Did that for you.

 

Nice pics.

Primarily yes, BGA has no place whatsoever in the world of "high performance" computers... notebooks or otherwise. However, if I had my way I would ban the use of it for everything except for $500 Walmart trashbooks. BGA on PC deserves to die. It's fine for smartphones and tablets, but beyond that I consider it to be the digital equivalent of parasitic, disease-ridden feces.

 

LOL
A 7700K is a down grade in my book! So is a 6700K!

 

Coming from a desktop 36 Core anything is a Downgrade xD

 

Compared to CPUs that work in the P570WM it is a big downgrade in CPU performance. But, compared to literally 100% of everything else available in notebooks, excluding the P570WM, it's a literal blood bath. Hopefully, @Eurocom Support will continue their efforts to fix that for us. A P870DM4 (or whatever it might end up being called) with a 6950X or better CPU would be amazing, even if we needed to use dual 780W AC adapters.

 

@Papusan
Ran Cinebench on the workstation at work -




Wish I could run wPrime, no admin access

 

so hey guys,i was just reading the kaby lake review on computerbase and they mentioned higher temps and wattages with kaby lake being due to a faulty microcode. this could be fixed with a bios update: https://www.computerbase.de/2017-01...4/#diagramm-leistungsaufnahme-last-alle-kerne

this is apparently limited to Z100 boards, not the newer Z200 series...

edit: correction, it apparently also shows up on some Z200 series mobos...

(beware, its in german )

maybe thats the reason were seeing higher temps here at identical clocks vs. skylake? be aware that they measured the actual wattage and didnt go the software route (i.e. hwinfo64)

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Hey guys!
It's been a while.

Any news regarding the Prema BIOS for P775DM3-G? Is it still in development?

Other question, does this panel look like an original B173QTN01.0 panel to you guys?



Found 2 sellers for this panel, I wonder if they are original and will they support G-Sync. Only one of the sellers have contact email (the other only has phone) and I am still waiting for an aswer regarding G-Sync funcionality.
The price is rather low compared to the Eurocom price (who is the only offficial retailer I found who is willing to sell the panel alone) Eurocom ask $424 without shipping for the panel, however these sellers are much cheaper, one asks only $90, the other only $150. And by feedback they don't look like scammers. So these panels are either "compatyble" Chinese copies OR they are selling it for such a low price because they don't add a huge amount of profit to it like the retailers.

 

We already use the very latest that Intel has to offer...

Yep. Clevo pushed 5 BIOS versions since Christmas, so I have to start from scratch every couple of days or deal with user complaining that there is a newer version out on release day...

 

Maybe the latest Intel has to offer is currently bugged? Wouldn't be the first time.

 

The ones with the bug where the very first (public) bases from September/October/November.
Kaby FLake is hotter. Delid and be done with it.

 

Retailer pricing is always retarded. Remember the 4k panel? Eurocom was charging $600+ for it, you can get the same panel for less than $150.

 

30% of all 4K AUO panel are non-AAA, fail their quality control and are then dumped on the net as OEMs won't pick them up.

 

That might explain it.
But the one that I got back when it wasn't as popular (costed me $200) , is perfect , same for the one Akarah has.

 

So what do you think of the Mobile Pascal Quadros?:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-for-mobile-workstations.html

Well, that is what happens when you let NVIDIA design their own MXM GPUs, all 100W max, MXM-B, still no SLI for mobile versions and only up to underclocked 1070 with double vRAM and no P6000/1080, yet.

 

Trash at best. We hate the 2 X Quadro K5200's in our work station, because one Titan XP outperforms them easily in non CAD work.

 

Come on!

I've never seen something more beautiful than those Clevo laptops! I would totally prefer pulling one out on an official business meeting. The people there might even feel more confident that I know what I'm doing when they see me wielding a very serious looking machine!

Now that sounds like a pain!

What was broken on the first release of the BIOSes?

And that's very handy to know! I actually wanted to get one of them AUO displays but didn't know from where to get them or if there are any differences.

 

OK i need to share this.
P775DM3-G with GTX 1080 pulling 100% from CPU and GPU for 30m, NO UNDERVOLT:



So i always wanted to give enthusiasts a system where he could start overclocking without undervolt.
The results above is done with Overclock fan profile, with automatic fan profile you can have a system that runs very silent, since you can still add the famous undervolts, this will keep this unit very quiet in normal usage / gaming.
I´m re-running the tests, but it seems great, already included this in our production line, so everyone get´s it for free!
To achieve this i really had to use all the tricks we´ve been talking about in this forum, from delid, to liquid metal to removing the gaps, etc etc plus making it something practical to reproduce in a production line.

EDIT: Please notice we talking about the most EXTREME scenario which is something rare on a daily usage, this is 100% GPU and CPU usage.
So Automatic fan profile in normal use won´t give you throttle, little undervolt is enough for good overclock and the unit runs way more silent!

 

Please, god no. Screw Broadwell-E. Skylake-E for it. X299 with good PCI/e chipset lanes for those fast NVMe SSDs everyone likes and actual overclocking ability. I'm sure you'd be pissed if your 6950X sat at 95c with your A/C at 4.2GHz and couldn't overclock any further while pulling 450W. A 7950X probably would be at 85c at 4.6GHz doing the same (vapor chamber required)

 

Have you seen? The folks at HIDevolution (thank you @Donald@HIDevolution!) have actually started selling Kaby Lake with no choice *BUT* to get it delidded. And they also overclock them by default too! 4.3GHz for i5s and 4.7GHz for i7s. I noticed it I think last night.

It makes me cry, the quality of such an OEM... *sniff*

The prices are also in line with (going by memory) the non-delidded versions before, which makes me even prouder.

 

I hope the high wattage stays and they don't "fix it" LOL. There's nothing wrong with that from my perspective. In fact, I will take all the watts I can get, even if the temps go up a little, as long as the temps are still controllable and below the thermal throttling point.

More watts is a good thing, especially if you can pull more watts with less voltage. Higher watts, as a general rule, has always translated into higher benchmark scores for me. Not being able to pull enough watts has always been like hitting a brick wall, where you cannot go any further.

 

ha, naturally no wattage limitation for us, nuh uh, sir! on the other hand, i would find it VERY peculiar if two chips at same voltage, clocks, usage scenario AND architecture / process node pull different wattages (at unlimited wattage limits), especially when its a difference of like 40+ W vs. a handful thats always to be expected at varying temperatures.

so tell me, what would you say would be doable 24/7 clocks on the 7700K? that is, delidded, liquid metal below the IHS and regular paste on top. gimme your best guess so i can decide if the upgrade is worth it

 

I was under the impression the bug was excessive power draw and heat for zero benefit. AFAIK Intel doesn't artificially power cripple K series processors.

 

Isn't so weird to me. It could just need a lot more current. Skylake pulling 1.3v with like 100A will probably pull less than Kaby Lake needing 1.22v but 150A, no?

I mean I'm clearly guessing at the actual current draw numbers here; there's no real way to read current drawn besides reverse-converting watts consumed and voltage at the time of said consumption, I think. But it would explain Kaby Lake needing more power and being hotter.

 

well ok, i will stay on my 1.xx.03 for now i guess, but great to hear to get some P775DM3 action going maybe then 5ghz *cough*, so far 4.5ghz stays in games, can't comment on firestrike tho didn't check yet, but tbh that 1070 limit is atrocious and annoys me much more lol, so

 

EL O EL.

 

6950X broadwell-e is a dead end. Waiting for skylake-x, Kaby-x is the way to go (socket is good through cannonlake-x, likely with socket lived to 2019-20). That would be one upgrade worth while!

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You need to get cpu-z out and submit that on hwbot!!!

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Admin access lol.

 

Well, a couple of people missed that I said "a 6950X or better CPU" which still leaves the gate wide open for something better. But, still... 6950X, even with all of its glorious dead-endedness, would be amazing and utterly destroy anything we have available to us in a laptop since we are limited to 4C/8T.

 

I couldn't agree more. Bring on the 10core laptop!


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I just cannot support the broadwell in a laptop. Clevo already decided to skip the haswell/broadwell-e chips. Wouldn't be as valuable as putting out something that will go the distance (including, if rumors are true, potentially hexa-channel on that board, edp 1.3-4 (if support is available), etc.). Either that or a fair MB upgrade option of new features should happen...

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I did miss it, actually. I saw 6950X and laptop and my brain went blank thinking of how atrocious it would be.

Bring on X299!

Now the real question is, how do we get 500 people to want it (and intend to buy)?

 

Lol other than a few with ACs , not sure how everyone else will cool it.

 

You assume AC units will cool BWE in a laptop.

 

Good point lol.
But hey I can cool my 6850 @ 4.8ghz under water. Barely though.

 

You're also lucky your 6850 can even hit 4.8GHz too.

I just think it'll be a waste. Also, what kind of loads are you checking? A long x264 render probably might oblivion it

 

Sure. Why wouldn't it? It cooled my 4960X and the Xeon CPUs in the laptops that @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER and @Trafficante had quite well.

I'd want a bigger, heavier, thicker laptop with much larger heat sinks. Like maybe a 5 pipe CPU heat sink with radiators twice as big as the current P870DM3. Now that I think of it, I'd like to have that on the DM3 as well.

 

Think about your 4790K. Make it at least twice as hot. That's what BWE would be like. There isn't even delidding either; it's solder underneath. It's just THAT hot. Broadwell was a disaster; the only reason it's selling is because they want to make back that R&D. We should honestly have Skylake-E already... they pretty much drew it out to launch BWE. And even then the 6950X is $1750 USD.

 

1 hour RealBench and OCCT. And a test scene I made for testing VRAY rendering in Maya and 3DsMax.

 

I'd be happy to even have the 4960X in the DM3, LOL. That was a wicked CPU. Much more so than any quad i7. But, I'll take better if it's offered.

 

Ok, good enough. But how would you cool the octocore or decacore? xD

Oh yeah. 4960X is still not a bad chip by any stretch of the imagination. I just think that the second Skylake-E launches, it'll be obsolete. I've already seen 3200MHz quad channel 14-14-14-34 RAM, and the clocks will be sky high. Plus imagine it with solder instead of paste, mmm.

 

Instead of 5 pipes, you can just about cross over to wider and have as good or slightly better, cooling (2x12mm pipes)...

<br />Ok, good enough. But how would you cool the octocore or decacore? xD<br />[quote uid=213711 name="Mr. Fox" post=10436473]I'd be happy to even have the 4960X in the DM3, LOL. That was a wicked CPU. Much more so than any quad i7. But, I'll take better if it's offered.[/QUOTE]<br />Oh yeah. 4960X is still not a bad chip by any stretch of the imagination. I just think that the second Skylake-E launches, it'll be obsolete. I've already seen 3200MHz quad channel 14-14-14-34 RAM, and the clocks will be sky high. Plus imagine it with solder instead of paste, mmm.[/quote]

On this, get a delid die mate, then you can remove the solder, which can improve temps 3-8C...
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I'd like to see what a Clevo 21" would turn out like.

 

Anyone knows what is the rated power of the headphone output Jack?

I mean the maximum power and voltage swing

 

Not sure of a figure... But it powers my 250 Ohm DT770s loud enough without an external amp I can't comfortably listen at max volume for any duration of time which is awesome!

 

Power is not always directly relative to output volume

To go in depth with what I mean - My smartphone gets enough volume on hard to drive monsters - but it lacks depth and detail sometimes.

I was cruious to know if it's in the 100mw range, 200mw range or 400mw range at 32 OHM....

Anyways, great headphones you're having there!

 

Wait, what? Under 4 with just 5G? WOW!

 

No, I ran the 32M at 5.2 then changed to 5.0 for the 1024M with ThrottleStop.
Here was the 32M before that...