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Interesting, that's a handy hack when nothing else is around

I use Dixie drinking cups, you know, the little to medium water drinking cups on all 4 corners.

Most companies have those little drinking cups and inverted the feet can rest on the bottom of the upside down cups and that gives plenty of air flow.

Small office supplies put under the rear bottom feet give a front to back elevation level to promote convection cooling, adding to the benefit.

It's often cured a Macbook from melting down and wizzing it's fan's at a high frenzy level, making the officemates very happy - it gets real quiet without the little Macbook screaming.

For heavy gaming notebooks, I stack the cups, double or triple up, so they won't give way under the weight

 

It's the most cost effective hack and easiest to transport, I find. 4 blocks of 2-ply toilet paper folded into a small square and put it under one of your laptop's feet, then repeat 3 more times for the other three feet. Easy to replace, last a long time, can take a lot of pressure, instant 5-10c temperature drop. They don't slip and slide, but they can be pushed if you use the right vector for force. I spoke about it a lot in the P37xSM and P37xSM-A threads, as well as for most anyone with a notebook. I would still like to try a modded U3 with 120mm Noctua or NZXT fans though, but those things are for when I have more directly disposable income and possibly live in the US or Canada.

I've never seen the cups you describe. I remember Ethrem claimed he used bottlecaps, though.

 

A sad story
http://forum.notebookreview.com/posts/10438340/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/posts/10438609/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/posts/10438634/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/posts/10439778/

 

LOL, his storage actually costs more than the system itself

But for his use, the nature of the system wont really matter.

 

Yeah. One thing is ok with this setup. The ssd's I'm still sad and shocked I think we still have hope. We know @Phoenix can change his mind pretty fast. Because he has done it so many times before. Fold our hands and pray

 

GPU is fine too. MSI has beefy 1080 MXMs in the GT73.

 

Dixie cups come in a range of sizes, the easiest and least obtrusive are the small water dispenser sized cups available in most work break-rooms or at water coolers:



Light laptops like a Macbook or other ill cooled thin laptops can be supported by 1 on each corner, turned upside down so the feet sit on the outside bottom of the cup. For heavier laptops use 2 or 3 set inside each other at each corner.

I've had to use larger ones when the small ones aren't available, it looks funny, like a huge wheeled hooptie ride, but it works great.

Putting an eraser or paper clamp under the rear feet, or a couple of bottle caps stacked, gets the rear of the laptop raised up so air flow is naturally from front up to back.

 

Has anyone tried with precise thread tool or lathe tool ? Shaved of the shoulder of the screw. There is not much shaving needed for the heatsink to come closer IHS.

 

Just removing the clips should allow the springs to push the heatsink on to the CPU LID without too much pressure.

 

But the trick can help people out a great deal!!

I actually have an external cooler but keep it's fans turned off for better noise levels. It's fans are also quite basic to provide enough of an improvement.




@Mr. Fox - I had another one of those freak incidents you spoke about - the whole keyboard area was pretty hot and the laptop stopped responding.

When it restarted, the image for desktop background was corrupted / black but everything else was ok, including the files and work that I was working on.

No idea what happened. No log or anything that useful that I know how to find

 

Lol XD

I do understand both sides though.

@Phoenix

This keyboard - the one on p870 and p775 is the worst keyboard I have ever seen in my entire life. Not they keyboard itself - but they layout. The keys are so nice to the tough, amazing feedback and nice overall usage - but I can't type on it at all. IT is the worst keyboard ever made - I do not know how did they think it would be a good idea to use that layout. Typing on it is unimaginably hard and I miss out words or erase words once in 10-15 key presses.

Even my rather peculiar Redragon Karura with it's no feedback at all design is better.

 

WHAT?!?! omg.... only NOW was i made aware of the actual meaning of that previous @Phoenix post quoting the specs of the msi machine...didnt get it at first, so thx @Papusan for clarification....

so again: OMG! WTH? just get a friggin external keyboard for 100-200 bucks and call it a day, already! unbelieveable..

and sorry, but no, i dont understand the argument with the bad keyboard. ive written my friggin PhD thesis on this Clevo keyboard and it was MORE than fine for typing!

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

 

Prema or someone who knows the answer !

I know that with older panels the version of the EDID determines if the panel will work with G-Sync or not, but what about panels that were manufactured this year? Are there panels that have EDID which does not have a license or something to make G-Sync work OR all new panels have everything that G-Sync needs and only G-Sync license is needed in the BIOS/vBIOS ?

Asking because I found a B173QTN01.0 for only $90 on Ebay (rather cheap compared to the Eurocom $500+ price) and I have a feeling that I will not be able to get this information out of the Chinese seller...

I mean I have sent them this message:
Can you please tell me if this panel supports G-Sync? Also, does it have ANY defect? Like back-light bleeding, vertical lines or stuck or dead pixel or it is 100% pixel and other issue free? I am asking because I need a panel which is 100% issue free, not even 1 bad pixel is acceptable. Also, what kind of connector does it use? 30/40 pin…

And got this reply:
hi dear i am not sure u laptop can use it . this grade A No have dead pixels this is 40pins belong EDP

 

At least on B173ZAN01.0 the EDID has no-influence at all on g-sync since it is limited to 60Hz either way. BUT, independent from EDID not all of those panel can handle g-sync well (some flicker or create other glitches) due to manufacturing difficulties and lower quality of them.

Usually it goes:

AAA+
AAA
AA
A
B....

 

Okay, thank you Prema!
I might give it a go, since I have a bad experience with the default LG Display LP173WF4-SPD1 panel. The LG panel+G-Sync works okay with DX11 games, however when DX12 API is used with G-Sync, GTX 1080 and GTX 980 VGA (tried both) bug out and the rendered DX12 image is corrupted+I also see tearing. (no problem when external monitor is used, the problem only occurs when the VGA is using the SPD1 panel and this problem can be recorded so it is software level)

 

I can get behind your statement tho... You can get literally every keyboard out there for a small price - not need to give up on this beauty for a keyboard...

Thank you!

This explains a few things!

I don't have those problems - but I haven't had that much luck with my LG default panel either - 2 panels - both with a dead pixel...

@Prema - Any Prema partner shop sells pieces like a display? I really need one..

 

Gonna need to invest in some better cooling for better benches. Getting quite toasty at 5.0/4.7.

 

is there Prema vBIOS available for GTX 1080 or Pascal is still locked and I don't need to keep my hopes up ?

 

u kidding? ure still below 90 at 5.0 / 4.7 ghz *lol*

 

He has single GPU, but the GRID heatsink. Nice combo!

 

Yes and I did use some Alphacool 14 w/mK between the CPU and GPU heatsync overlap. Not sure if that helped but I was hoping it would make a little better contact to reduce the CPU temperature some.

 

That's probably about what is needed gap wise. It would probably be the path or least resistance too.

My temps are pretțy good now but I'm sure I used to get away using alot less CLU.

 

see why here bro: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/evoc-p870dm3-review-by-phoenix.798685/page-17#post-10440302

 

dude, I've been using this keyboard for almost a year on the previous Eurocom Sky X9 and till this date, I cannot type a single sentence without making 2 or 3 mistakes, hampers my typing experience greatly.

the key feedback is awesome, it's just this cramped layout that makes me mistype keys

heck I can type with 0 mistakes on my wife's 15 inch Dell Vostro as the keys are well spaced out

 

Still need to replace those, but ran out of 0.5mm pads. Which thickness did you use?

 

I know.

This is why I have a Redragon Karura, Natic RX33, Natec RX11, and a few other keyboards.

MM old 15" Dell was amazing good for typing too.

It is a single freaking key. One key that breaks the whole typing experience. Those arrow keys and that enter key.

Point is - you could get an amazing external keyboard to use - bluetooth one or wireless - one that you can type from afar with!

 

I don't like using ANYTHING external, be it a GPU, keyboard, or anything else with the exception of a wireless mouse

I buy a laptop for having everything in one box, if I wanted the hassle of having all these external things, I'd just build a desktop which I've done before and regretted and lost 5K USD selling it

 

0.5mm looked about the same as what they had and it stuck when I pulled it up to test.

 

Same as stock then. Where the 2cm pads wide enough to cover that part with a single strip?
(Forgot to measure when it was disassembled)

 

Sorry I did not really measure. I had part of a 100x100x0.5 sheet I ordered from Newegg.

 

XTU short test

 

Ramping up.... http://valid.x86.fr/nv61mt

With @Prema BIOS can now validate @ 4.9GHz!

49x4 Core, 44x Cache. +80mV adaptive

 

Nice!

Good temperatures as I find.

 

Could you guys share the settings for the Prema Bios to Overclock to 4.5 - 4.6

Thanks!

 

Not sure if I even did this right. First Validation I tried.

 

There's not much you need to do for 4.5. Try default settings and change the multipliers to 45. Stock voltage should be enough to get you there.

 

I just ran Aida 64 stress test and the temps are not doing so well. Any recommendations? It's been a while since I messed with a BIOS. It seems I have some throttling as well

 

Are you running your fans at max while running the test?

 

Yup there in Overclock Mode on the Clevo Control Center.

 

Just to make sure they are running at full speed try function +1 and run the test to see if temps are the same. You may already know what the full speed fans sound like I just don't always trust CCC. Did you or HID delid the processor?
Edit: Reason I ask is my 6700K was not the greatest would only clock to about 4.6 for gaming and temps were just like yours until I completed a delid.

 

My 6700K thermal throttles almost instantly at 4.5 -25mV on FPU stress with liquid metal, not yet delidded. Doesn't break 75 in normal gaming use

Overclock fan profile in CCC is what I use everyday but for stress testing you have to go max fans with Fn+1 (same as Maximum in CCC)

 

IC Diamond vs Liquid Metal for imperfect heatsinks!

 

what is your voltage offset?

 

Full package!! I see slim Jokebook's is alive and kicking http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-you-getting-on-gl702vm.798791/#post-10438834

 

@Phoenix What in God's name is that in your signature? Did you leave the Brotherhood of Clevo ?

 

where have j00 b33n br0?

Ordered a MSI GT73VR 7RF TITAN PRO-425 from HIDevolution

 

I've sent back my laptop for new thermal pads/new heatsink (and also to check the speakers because they started to pop and also to check the screen), however the courier lost/misplaced it...tracking got stuck 1 month ago and the company has been looking for it for more than a week now. So yea, things been happening

 

did you overclock your Cache Ratio by any chance? a few users including me an @infex got this audio stuttering/crackling when the cache ratio is overclocked

 

Nope, it was something hardware related.

 

Lol.. 80 to 90 degree's on the GPU - as long as it's quiet or thin right And I have to hear a garden troll try and tell me 63 degree's under load is hot