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Yep that's probably about right - just curious, thanks bro.
In other news. Looks like I might have to resort to shimming my CPU set up. I had things perfect until I took it out one day. Perhaps the chassis flexed? What ever happened suddenly gives me shocking temps at 4.5ghz. I suspect the CLU spread was only just making good enough contact to do a stellar job, but not firm enough to allow any tolerance in movement.

Ideally I'd like to do away with the IHS and just use a higher shim - I'm not sure yet. If I keep the IHS and use a thin shim I won't be thrilled about having to add another layer into the mix to complicate heat transfer.

 

What kind of difference did you see before clu with ic diamond or whatever you were using?

 

Had been using a very thick layer of CLU (used up 2 tubes) to fill out the gap between the heat sink and the IHS.
Finally today used a giant copper sheet to fill out the gap.
The copper sheet is 42 x 42 mm with 1.2mm thickness. Both sides pasted with thin layer of CLU. Thermal pads were replaced with 2mm and 4mm respectively.
The sheet can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Copper-Shims...979353&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=ps3+copper+sheet

The temperature of using this copper sheet is very similar with me using a super thick layer of CLU previously. The advantage I see so far is I don't need to worry about potential leakage anymore.

Also cut out all the support-grids between the fan blades to maximize air flow.

The temperature after a fast run of RealBench, environment temp was 72F, no AC and no cooler. CPU drew 115W at max.

Machine is P870DM1.

 

If you're using two tubes of CLU on a single application that's a disaster waiting to happen.

 

At that point paste is a far better option unless you like a dead system.

 

Does anyone know if it is possible to acquire Pure Silver shims? eg from 0.2 - 0.5mm in appropriate size for cpu?

Btw. @Mobius 1 How it turned out with the graphics in your Turd?

 

I bet you can somewhere. I recently came across a post where someone made a IHS out of pure silver which looked awesome. I'd love one of them with a little more height.

 

I saw that too. Did you save the thread?

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Unfortunately I didn't .

 

I think you missed what Brother @Coolane said. He was before, but is not any more. He does not have to use a ludicrous amount of CLU with a shim helping to mitigate the sloppy-fitting Clevo heat sink. 1.2mm is thicker than most need, so his heat sink must fit worse than most. A 0.5mm shim should be ideal for most.

 

If I had time I'd love to tear down the system and see if you could do a custom acrylic plate to put between the backplate and the motherboard but recently I have not even had time to benchmark My main concern would be ensuring the VRM area was still ok and the heatsink dropping down did not cause fitting issues elsewhere (there should be enough give for 0.5mm).

 

Yeah, I think that would work excellent.

I know what you mean about not having time to bench. There are never enough hours in a day and if I never slept it would still not be enough hours to do everything I want to do.

 

From an article about Ryzen.

“According to the performance we’re seeing we can say that the 7700K will be history, even for gaming.”

Like I said in the Razerbook thread... Nice to be stuck with an fully locked down low binned [email protected] or the equal crippled Kaby [email protected] for 2-5 years down the road!!
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...6-owners-lounge.797308/page-114#post-10470854

 

I have constructed used this prototype though

Currently being powered by a 500w SFX PSU with the motherboard 24pin sense shorted I will get a 2A molex PSU later if I finish it off.

 

@Papusan - some actual numbers to show that. And remember, you can select your best cores for overclock and can disable whatever cores you want (turn the 8-core to a 4-core to game or OC)....

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-1700x...e-ipc/?utm_source=wccftech&utm_medium=related

Edit: and my industrial water chiller will be here on Tuesday. So, hopefully sometime next month I'll be posting some numbers up on HWBot. I'll order the art eraser today or tomorrow (the chiller goes down to 5C)

Edit 2: Seems there will be a million served in the first shipment!
https://www.custompcreview.com/news/initial-amd-ryzen-cpu-shipments-top-one-million-units/38649/

 

Is there a link to what you purchased that you can share?

You are going to show us some photos once it's working, right?

 

Right! No more potential disaster. When I cleaned the CLU, usually I sanded it off from the IHS and heat sink; so from time to time, the gap is getting bigger.
I think 0.5mm will be good for most/others too.
The CLU I got recently from Amazon has high fluidity and low viscosity, it behaved like Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut. I saw some leakage over the areas that I applied on my GPU and CPU die. This is very different with the CLU I experienced few months or a year ago, or the recent ones I purchased from Chinese market, those are thicker and stuck with the heat sink very well, never run over the "territories" that I applied even though I used a lot.
I am suspecting if they upgraded the ingredients or something... ...

 

http://www.teyuchiller.com/Products/ChillerCW5200.html
Look at the specs for the DG, but the flow-rate, Lift, etc. of the AH. I got the DH. D is the models for the US. The G-H-I is flow rate and head pressure.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-Stock-1...101255?hash=item43f8825a87:g:DrkAAOSw4GVYGyG2

And yes, pictures will be had (have to for HWBot.org anyways). And my 12 year old nephew is going to be here over spring break next month and is into robotics and his raspberry pies, so I'm thinking I'll show him a bit about setting up a nice machine! Let him do some light overclocking and make sure he doesn't do anything stupid on voltage. It's about time he learned the basics.

 

Yes, I recently purchased CLU and noticed the same difference in viscosity. Not liking that at all, unfortunately. Let's just hope it was a bad batch and they did not screw around with the formula. I should probably order some more and if it is the same way email them and ask what the heck the deal is. If they screwed it up on purpose and made it runny crap like Conductonaut or Phobya Liquid Metal on purpose, I'm not going to be very happy about that.

Sweet! I look forward to seeing the photos when it is done.

I haven't ever seen Brother @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER water chiller setup. Do you know if he has the same thing?

It would be interesting to see if one of the less expensive models could be used on a laptop with quick-disconnect fittings on the back end of the chassis and some coils of copper tubing permanently attached to the top of the CPU heat sink and pipes, GPU vapor chamber and heat pipes? Wonder how well that could work?

 

I think he assembled his own chiller

 

I do not know what he uses, unfortunately. But, the CW-3000 is a smaller, cheaper one that has taken a 6950X to bench at 4.6GHz and cools relative to ambient (no worry of condensation) that would be nice for that....

 

Yep. I switched from Conductonaut to CLU because the latter was thicker and gave me slightly better performance. But now I went back to ICD/Kryonaut for GPU because of safety.
I had to use thermal pad and MX4 to surround the GPU die and heat sink respectively to protect against the recent CLU from leaking, it's messy and worrisome.

 

Yea it's a good safety measure. Like you have done, it's important to keep the "Great Wall of Trump," as we refer to it, a good distance away from the center area as if the paste remotely touches the LM, it'll cause the LM to run away from that given area and it'll leave a bare spot. Weird chemical reaction like a + and - polarities of a magnet.

 

Well not quite a chemical reaction but more of a physical one

 

@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER

Do you have the links of your highest 3DM11 and FireStrike/Timespy scores using the DM3?
Need to know how steep the climb is

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11830150

 

Here is FS http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/11830150/fs/11561882
TS http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1066382
3DM11 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11898837

 

Sweet baby Jesus, beating that is going to need a lot of work lol.

Specially 3DM11, im stuck under 26k - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11992908

 

Good luck Remember the AC

 

Well getting kinda closer without an AC -
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/18244835
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/18244959

 

Would there be any benefit to getting the 780w power brick with the P750DM2, i7-7700k, and GTX 1070?

 

Don't think so. With that config and without an unlocked vBIOS doubt you will even cross 300W.
What's the max power you have seen your 1070 draw?

 

Power is only really an issue when you don't have enough, it's much like ram.

 

Vbios modded OC'd 1070 + 7700K will not use more than @Mr. Fox's previous baby monster with max OC'd 4790K and 980M. 330W is enough.

 

Indeed. Even with the Tornado F5 7700K clocked at 5.0GHz and the 1080 pulling 225W+ the 330W AC adapter is still more than adequate for single GPU. But, the 780W AC adapter has a lot of nice features to it. I'd say get it if you want to, but you definitely don't need it with single GPU. For SLI beasts the situation is totally different. You need at least the dual 330W for proper function, and the 780W AC adapter has tremendous value in terms of eliminating clutter/crap/bulk associated with the dual adapter setup. Not that it's bad... it's actually excellent. But, dealing with a single 780W AC adapter that is essentially the same size and weight (the difference is too small to be relevant) as a single 330W is a far more elegant solution.

 

Is there a hard limit in the motherboard/bios for overclocking on the 9377-SMA/4910mq? Temps are OK but it's power limit throttling at 58w despite having the desired limit set higher at 70w.

 

The limits to overclocking are hard-coded to the CPU regardless of the BIOS. I've never owned a 4910MQ so I do not recall where they set that limit, but it's only partially unlocked. If you want to do any serious overclocking, you need to replace it with a 4930MX. Avoid 4940MX... that CPU is a joke and not as good as the 4910MQ. I have never seen even one example of a good 4940MX CPU. They seem to all be defective. But, 4930MX is more or less a lidless 4790K.

 

Aww man and I was *this* close to breaking 4gHz too. Sitting at 3.99 right now.

Thanks for the info

 

Maybe @SnowDrifter could try the PowerCut functionality in TS? Should work with Haswell. Worth ask @unclewebb in the TS guide.

 

Maybe so. That might help get past 3.99GHz. If BCLK is unlocked, that might also be enough to push the clocks a bit higher. Based on my experience with the Alienware 18, a decent 4930MX should handle 4.8GHz if he can keep it cool enough in the NP9377 chassis.

 

BCLK locked, can't tweak power limit in throttle stop unfortunately. I'm at the point were if I were to want more power I'd build a desktop with some of the new hardware coming out instead of putting it in this. I was just trying to sneak some more performance out of this thing since new hardware like the 1080m takes different power connectors. My upgrade options are restricted to RAM and CPU. Slim pickings hah

 

Search up Power Cut in TS guide and see if it helps if you haven't tried it yet

 

I'll look into it more later. In the mean time, I'm going to try and make it to bed before sunrise. I'll check back tomorrow

 

You may need a Prema mod, then:


P37xSMx are fully unlocked for the CPU with Prema mods, as far as I know.

Yeah no kidding. Just testing out The Witcher 2 (NOT EVEN 3) at 1080p with Ubersampling running (I don't even sustain above 120fps, so it's actually "worth it" xD) had me sucking a cool 200W per GPU, plus my CPU draw around 50W. Far less the rest of the system.

At ***STOCK***

 

how do I overclock
Overclocking Clevo P170SM 17.3" Gaming Laptop - i7-4800MQ,GTX 780M, 8GB

 

The same as any other graphics card.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-2749337/safe-gpu-overclocking-guide-2016.html

 

thank you ^^++

 

Sorry guys. Have been hella busy as of late so haven't been around

 

Anyone know more about this? Johnksss @Prema @Mr. Fox

 

Lol probably DM4/DM5 etc. With the older models being non upgradeable. And with the same heat sink woes.

 

Or maybe a whole HS change for new designed graphics Aka mooore vram maybe(Ti)? Time for a whole change of the DM models. New models with better keyboard @Phoenix