Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

I think pretty much the same way about CPU degradation. It is mostly people that do not overclock that are worried about it. It's like a paralysis due to fear in some cases. It doesn't cost much (unlike our ludicrously priced GPUs) and not a major concern. Since it is not welded to the motherboard, not a problem. I would prefer to use it to the fullest and enjoy every minute, and if everything goes as normal it will be irrelevant due to age before it wears out.

 

I never really understood the whole hoopla around it to be honest. I have been running all my desktop processors under water for over decade now, and at pretty high voltages. The longest i held onto a chip, was my 2600k and that is still running perfectly fine in a NAS.

 

The 3200 modules are hard to find. I have 4*16GB sticks of 3200. But, they are identical to my 2*16GB G.SKILL 3000 sticks in every visible way except for the XMP 3200 profile.

 

Interesting, do think it will be possible to get a dump of your profile if i grab a license for TB?

 

The stock 3200Mhz profiles don't even boot, we made a custom XMP mod also for that...

 

There is a 3333 floating around somewhere....
And 300 mhz overclock is pretty good. Nothing wrong with that at all.

True, these quad cores do not cost much at all. And you can't really bin these gpu's per say.... $1250.00-$1500.00 hits are not that easy to take when something goes wrong and they decide not to cover them.

@bloodhawk
The key is to find a working xmp for yourself. That's what I had to do in the end....

 

LOL. Ill stay content with my current modules then.

 

Or go and check your mail...

 

Still though....At the end of the day.... None of this would be even possible without @Prema though

 

At the end of the day we are all just pieces of the same puzzle. It's just that the right ones need to come together in order to form the bigger picture.

 

Damn right it wouldn't be. If i was Clevo, i would have snagged him up as a lead long time back

Wooot!!!

Tasks for Sunday -

- Do a clean Install of Windows and CentOS on the desktop.
- Setup work stuff.
- Test TIM's with the DM3.
- Play with the Memory.

 

@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER I second this. And I don't need spreedsheat like the below to see if I should OC - Or use more Voltage if needed for the goal or not

And some Core i7 BGA Turds used +1.4V Stock if I remembered correct @D2 Ultima

 

That picture is a perfect example of why things crash and people have no clue what is wrong. You don't figure these things out until you go over them with a high powered microscope and find what the real problem is.

In other news....

 

Voltage is less important than the current so long as it's not silly high so it will have less impact on slower lower TDP chip since the current will be lower.

 

That looks a bit scary though!

 

What is the most recommended way of cleaning dust off fan blades?

 

Use what you have... Most have lying cotton swabs, lint-free rag, vacuum cleaner(on low power), paper. Some also have box with compressed air available. In short, everything can be used, if you do it with some sense.

 

I meant to ask best way

The thing is that I am afraid of throwing the blades off Equilibrium if I push them in with cotton swabs and I've no idea how to use compressed air

 

You can use a vacuum cleaner on very low power after you have cleaned the fans with the cotton swabs. Don't let the fans spin due use of vacuum cleaner or compressed air.

Compressed air is nice for cleaning the heatsink radiator. If you use a vacuum cleaner you can risk the dust being stuck in the radiator. If you only have vacuum cleaner for the job... Use it on both sides of radiator.

 

What was the best feature to make a Win Image?

I want to try it out just for the kicks as it might take less than my monthly windows reinstall play-game

 

Macrium Reflect, FTW. The free version works as well or better than anything you would pay money for. It's the best of the best IMHO.

 

@Phoenix - 48200MB/s memory read... delicious. Muchas Gracias mi hermanos @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER y @Prema

 

Thanks!

That is really handy!

So about Overclocking a system

I installed windows latest windows and installed drivers based on Clevo's site then used Obsidian tool to update the drivers.

The scores and general snappiness of the system were quite good until I clicked on windows to update its windows through windows update. Seems that this somehow lowers system performance or something. Any thoughts on this?

EDIT::: There is also so much useless stuff coming on with windows... I need help uninstalling all of the bloatware... So so so much bloatware it is insaine....

BTW, running windows 10 pro, it is better than home thus far

 

Yeah, Windoze 10 is a piece of trash. If you made an image before installing updates, just restore that and then use O&O ShutUp to block everything. If you use the fingerprint scanner, leave that slider red, but make everything else green and you should be good to go. If you don't use the fingerprint reader, go ahead and kill that switch as well. If really want to kill off everything mod the WIM files and remove all of the UWA app filth... Defender, Cortana and the plethora of other non-essential PUP garbage.


This will not work yet for RS2. We need an updated tool for RS2.

 

Don't be the Micro$py's unpaid GP. Close the Update door fully until others aka all the M$ GP's have ruled out new bugs. Bugs can be much.... Crashes, more spyware, bloat, performance loss etc...In short new Windoze features.

Y00 really make my day, Thanks +rep

 

7700K 5.2GHz | 1080 (x1) +220 / +600 | DDR4-3333

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Fire Strike: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12137762

Sky Diver: http://www.3dmark.com/sd/4599304

 

Damn, was it that bad of a unit?

 

@Phoenix - for your W10 thread(s), the MSMG Toolkit to remove the Windows crApps, Telemetry filth, Skype, OneDrive, Cortana the digital slut and other atrocities has been updated for RS 2. Grab v6.9.

https://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/50572-MSMG-ToolKit?highlight=MSMG+tool

Spoiler: What you can do or fix...

• Copy Source DVD Files from DVD Drive
• Extract Source DVD Files from ISO Image
• Extract Source DVD Files from OEM/IMG Image
• Convert Windows Store ESD Image to WIM Image
• Convert Windows Media Creation Tool (MCT) Image to WIM Image
• Convert Windows ESD Image to WIM Image
• Convert Windows WIM Image to ESD Image
• Convert Source WIM Editions
• Integrate Windows Updates
• Integrate WHD Updates Repository Updates
• Integrate Windows Language Packs
• Integrate Windows Device Drivers
• Integrate Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5
• Integrate Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6.2 with Language Packs
• Integrate Microsoft Internet Explorer 11 with Language Packs
• Integrate Microsoft Data Deduplication
• Integrate Microsoft Edge Browser App
• Integrate Microsoft Remote Desktop Protocol 8.0 & 8.1
• Integrate Microsoft Win32 Calculator
• Integrate Windows Management Framework 5.1
• Integrate Windows Multimedia Restricted Codecs
• Integrate Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL)
• Integrate Windows System Restore
• Integrate Windows To Go Workspace
• Integrate Microsoft Default Metro Apps
• Integrate Microsoft DaRT Tools to Boot & Recovery Images
• Integrate Windows Thin PC Add-on Packages
• Integrate Microsoft DirectX 9.0c
• Integrate Microsoft Games
• Integrate Windows Sidebar
• Integrate Windows 8.1 Media Center Generic Activation Tokens
• Integrate Windows 8.1 Pre-Activation Data & Tokens
• Integrate Terminal Server Patch
• Integrate Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Professional Codec Tweak
• Integrate Custom Themes UxTheme Patch
• Integrate Custom Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE)
• Integrate Custom Default User Account Pictures
• Integrate Custom System Files
• Remove All Default Metro Apps
• Remove Default Metro Apps Association
• Remove Windows Components
• Remove Windows Components using Package List
• Import Default Metro Apps Association from XML File
• Export Default Metro Apps Association to a XML File
• Make a DVD ISO Image
• Burn a ISO Image to DVD
• Copy Source to Bootable USB Flash Drive
• Sync Source Boot and Install Images to Bootable USB Flash Drive
• Burn an ISO Image to Bootable USB Flash Drive
• Format a USB Flash Drive
• WIM Manager to Display, Delete, Rename, Export, Split and Merge, Capture, Apply and Cleanup WIM Image Indexes

@j95 @Prema

 

Some info about DDR4 in gaming benchmarks for y00 boys and girls. Both for Z170 Platform + Quad-Channel X99 Platform. Enjoy As I stated before. I think 2800MHz with good timings is the sweet spot vs. stock 2133/2400MHz ram speed.

Z170 Platform


DDR4 Speed on the Quad-Channel X99 Platform

 

Any idea why the scores drop @ 3200Mhz on X99 ? Im guessing because of the timings. Ill see if i can do similar tests on my desktop . My 3200Mhz memory runs @ CL14.

 

That same test with 2x in the X99 would have been interesting an looking at SLI performance.

 

OK... Clean installed RS2 after using the latest MSMG Toolkit to eliminate all traces of the digital STDs from Micro$loth latest iteration of incompetence. All modern apps, app associations and "advanced" components (telemetry, biometrics, Cortana the digi-slut) etc. have been stripped out of the WIM files, and Windows Updates disabled (verified non-functional). I left Store and XBOX for future experimentation. If they become inconvenient, I will remove them as well.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/18904369#

 

I'm sure microsoft will find some way to "fix" that for you. *sigh*

 

@Mr. Fox +++ Maybe you want to see stock BGA vs. LGA gets raped in normal use? And we haven't started talking about push up the clock speed aka overclocking Oh'well, the 6700hq Turd in the Razerbook can't overclock, sorry I forgot



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FYI.
Futuremark ends support for 3DMark Vantage

 

The castrated Razer turdbook getting raped was 100% predictable, but it's always nice to see a public example of how worthless filth that BGA is being demonstrated in such a practical use scenario. Too bad the guy in the video made excuses for it. That kind of spoiled it a little bit. "Yeah but" blah, blah, blah. Should have said, this and overheating problems are why you should stay away from this overpriced garbage.

 

But but But I can also shave with it

 

M$ already fixes breaks it dynamically with every Iteration, So does the Power users
But yeah somethings are getting restricted with every disservice update, Cortana for eg, If one removes that abomination the whole Search gets removed from the OS, Nasty Digital Orwellian Crapshoot Winblows X..

 

I prefer buying and use the lot cheaper Razor blade than throwing out my money on the expensive Razer book. The results will be the same brother Or buy a cheap Philips or Braun. I think my wife wouldn't see the difference anyway

 

Actually, you are right.

The performance difference is pretty high, especially when we consider the costs of each setup...

Romanians use Gilette

This is one of the reasons I come to dislike Windows more and more... so many problems with it, and they're just making thins worse for the power users.

 

You guys need Harry's or The Dollar Shave Club

 

Can I use this for RazOr Blade

Edit: 4.3GHz + 1080 with 250w psu... This smells battery boost long way. And will be the new *WARNING*!! The record is 6 Motherboard!! Can we see 8?

 

I dunno, comparing a notebook (especially one with the dimensions of a Blade Pro) and a desktop was never really fair, IMO. You have a significantly smaller space, worse cooling, so you use weaker components that output less heat. Why do you guys want to defy physics? If there was an LGA CPU and a 500 W AC adaptor bundled with the Blade Pro, then you'd complain that everything overheats. Yeah, obviously... There's no appeasing the high-end crowd.

 

This comparison was between a fully blown 6700hq Turd vs. 7700K with deactivated turbo (castrated cpu). Aka 3,1GHz max turbo boost vs. 4.2GHz = A difference of 35.5%. But the result in the end was 54% lower performance. The result would be exactly the same if this castrated LGA had been installed in a laptop!! What is unfair with a clean comparison? That this BGA performs hideous in a laptop? Or that the performance of this garbage is hideous whatever Turd it is welded in? I expect a low powered 3.1GHz i7 should manage... Yeah, 3.1GHz on all 4 cores!! Remember RazerBoook will now get the [email protected] in the same chassis. Something is very wrong if this puny processor at 3.1GHz can not perform optimally in the same chassis.

 

Clock speed ≠ performance. I thought this much was obvious, after the clock speed stagnating after Sandy Bridge. If that were the case then Pentium would be as powerful as Core i7 Kaby Lake. There are intrinsic, key differences between the cores in a mobile CPU and a desktop CPU. The Apple A10 single-core score in Geekbench is around half that of the Core i7-4710MQ, but the former draws roughly a tenth the power of the former.

But what do I know, I'm just a guy with CompTIA A+, about to do a computer science major, right...

 

See. In real world usage is this i7 BGA Crippled in the $4000 usd RazerBook who will soon come with the unlocked BGA aka 4.3GHz. 54% lower performance in real world work. Aka the the benchmark score in Cinebench R15 posted in several reviews has no aka zero value. Clock vs. Clock (aka 4.2 vs. 3.1GHz) In my world should the result been 35.5% lower scores ... Not +54%

 

Here we go! Bringing in the education stats. @Papusan is right. BGA is very expensive JUNK. Long live the DTR, I got an A in gym

 

This should be the main target for BGA!! + smartphones!! Not laptops from 14 inch and up.

 

Exactly, smartphones and cheap tablets. Not laptops

 

I'd like to see an LGA socket and an MXM GPU (all the latest Pascal MXMs aren't MXM-A or even MXM-B, they're all nearly as big as the desktop cards themselves) in these:

1) Alienware 13R3
2) Aorus X3+ V7
3) MSI GS43VR
4) Clevo P640HK
5) Gigabyte Aero 14

See if they don't overheat because some scrub puts a 7700K and attempts to OC it to 5 GHz in a chassis like the P640HK. The 6700HQ is locked for a reason. I say again: the cores it has are not the same cores that are in a desktop CPU. You want unlocked performance, get a device with the associated cooling.

Also, I found a fairly good video which ends up nullifying your '54%' score—turns out the 6700K is around 15-20% faster than a 6700HQ at stock clocks, with no thermal throttling and no OC: