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Please read... Y00 will find a lot more numbers in more serious reviews than what yoo showed!!

Nr 1. Read what is written or watch the video one more time. 6700BGA in Razerbook vs. 7700K with disabled Turbo boost.

Nr 2. 6700K = Cinebench R15 - 836cb. I have not seen these numbers. These figures is from Notebookcheck.net



Nr 3 This Cinebench R15 - 897cb score from my [email protected] aka stock clock on all 4 cores.


You'd found the more correct-proper information if you had these chips yourself or asked. And not look into some odd You tube video!!

Even the Cinebench R15 - 691cb score is optimistic for 6700hq. Should be more like 671-676cb.


This numbers from the Youtube video is mostly wrong!!


Edit. See also [email protected] aka with 6700BGA speed in Cinebench R15 - 699cb

 

Alright, fine, I'll use the worst number from what I've found about the 6700HQ (620 CB) versus the best number I've found for the 6700K (920 CB)— 300/920 = 32.6%, not 54.4%.

 

PLEASE READ ONE MORE TIME... This is last time!! 54% longer vs. 7700K... Was from the 7700K with disabled Turbo boost in the Razer video review. See the YouTube video one more time. Numbers don't lie!! And the pict is taken from that vid!! This is from an real workflow!!




Edit: FYI [email protected] Processor Base Frequency... [email protected] Processor Base Frequency.

 

You're over-looking that these CPU's are the same architecture and have 99% the same IPC. Comparing clock speeds is fine and reasonably accurate.

 

Exactly. About same clock vs. clock. Both processors tested should show about same performance difference in Cinebench vs. real workflow. But the trash don't do it in the YouTube video.
The i7 BGA processor in RazerBook performs worse in real workflow vs. what it shows in Cinebench R15. What more can be said?

 

Yes, we can always count on that with those slime balls. Their only mission in life seems to be harming what little there is left to salvage from the wreckage that was once amazing. I used to wish I worked there, but now have no respect left for them.

BGA are the culled defective chips.

 

Designed to be used in equally crippled laptops.


@Ionising_Radiation the newer low entry Kaby in Cinebench R15. +300MHz on all 4 cores, but perform lower than its predecessor 6700hq. Nice with new tech?

 

P670HS-G(7700HQ) vs P670RS-G(6700HQ). I dunno, I think 740 points is more than 670 points. Is it?

You guys must know better, I'm just a noob, you know, can't do maths.

 

Please don't use graphs that don't start at 0.

 

This is my second time when i use CLU.The first and second seringue was the same,half of the seringue is not usable.Is this normal?

 

When you say not usable is it that black powder in your picture (it's a little hard to make out)? If so the whole tube should be silver liquid.

 

Yes the first half of seringue is silver liquid.The second half is black and i need cut the seringue to get out this,firmly stands by filings.

 

So long as it's not the black end of the plunger you are talking about then speak to your supplier.

 

It looks like the rubber plunger in the photo.

There is very little material in a new syringe of CLU, and it seems like half as much as there used to be when I first started using CLU.

 

The better performing setup is priced less than the BGA one... that is more of a problem than it would had been if they were priced similraly.

This is something of a concern. It screams problems in this situation...

What's worse is that people won't know before buying it and idk - I had enough of an experience with chips that ran too hot to know that it is best if your chips do NOT run too hot...

Now this is where things get interesting. The main PROBLEM is that the difference IS IN THE WORKFLOW!

I really think that half of gamers won't notice or care, but for workflow, those differences can really slow down your work and process. Imagine being anoyed by this and loosing your inspiration, then all goes down the drain. I probably couldn't care less if I was having those results in a console or gaming only environment, but the problem is that if you want to work, better don't do it on a BGA CPU.

 

This happened to me as well. My last 2 tubes barely lasted me 2 repaste' and i use the bare minimum amount needed. Conductonaut's first tube however still has more left after 4 applications.
Pretty much done with CLU.
Going to test some Gallistan in the mean time, thanks to @Q937, Gallistan sandwiches for days.

In other hardware news while i wait for the RMA -

http://imgur.com/a/HQ6rS

 

I've used CLU twice. It was exactly like the photo. I have 2 new containers and 3 more on order. It seems like there isn't much in the syringe.

 

That's EXACTLY what mine was doing. I thought that was normal. Like I said, only used it twice

 

Maybe just got a bad batch from New Egg

 

I'm guessing there must be a lot of old product in circulation that should no longer be sold. I've never seen that, but maybe that's why my impression is there is less product in a syringe than there used to be. Maybe it's actually still there and too old to get out of the syringe. I complained once about this to the place I purchased it because there was almost nothing in a new package. They passed it on to Coollaboratory and they sent me a replacement package direct from the factory. If it is getting dried out like that, it may also be why it seems more watery with less viscosity than it used to have.

 

And we're standing here, using our Clevos for a similar price

 

I'm sitting down using my Clevo.

 

That's exactly what I think is happening and I'm officially using this as an excuse to why I haven't been able to bench at 5.5 ghz, or 5.4 or 5.3 etc. It's CLUs fault. Thanks @Mr. Fox you think @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @Papusan @bloodhawk and the rest of the boys will belive that?

 

Maybe not. As long as you believe it, I guess that's all that matters.
I ask myself, WWJD? Sometimes I don't like my own answers.

 

That answers that question. A big NO I don't believe it! Actually temps are never the issue. I'm running the GRID with a single 1070. Temps stay pretty good. It's all the other things I haven't figured out yet. Working on it. You guys have a good night. Be safe.

 

How most of this thread looks like

 

You should be able to get a refund or exchange for that.

 

Actually, the result can be interpreted in two ways
1. (920-620)/620 = 300/620 or 48.387% - the 6700k is 48.387% faster than the 6700hq
or
2. (920-620)/920 = 300/920 or 32.6% - the 6700hq is 32.6% slower than the 6700k

 

I understand, but @Papusan was clearly talking about the mobile CPU's performance with respect to the desktop's, not the other way round.

 

Yeah, 6700Hq in Razerbook is 54% slower in real workflow than "Crippled 7700K without balls or stock clocked 6700K. The cpu benchmarks test in the Razerbook reviews isn't worth a ****y penny But who will run a unlocked LGA stock clock or with Turbo boost disabled? 54% slower wil be more like 70-74%

 

CLU was dry as a bone. Lapped heatsink with 1500 grit sandpaper (should have used > 2000, but couldn't find any here yet), and reapplied some traditional, Gelid GC Extreme paste.

Spoiler: Dry CLU Pictures: heatsink and die

Spoiler: Dry CLU Temps

Idle at room temp = 24 °C


FurMark + P95 load at room temp = 24 °C


Cooldown at room temp = 24 °C

Spoiler: Gelid GC Extreme: Temps

Idle at room temp = 24 °C


FurMark + P95 load at room temp = 24 °C


Cooldown at room temp = 24 °C

To be honest, the max temps slightly disappoint me, but I suppose the gradient is what matters... GPU temps are some 5–10 °C lower with more typical loads, like Anno or Witcher 3.

Anyway, after a long gruelling week, I managed to get myself a 180 W adapter after my 120 W one got fried. This 180 W adapter is tiny.

 

Yeah, your heat sink seems to be warped , the CLU was barely making any contact.

 

An Asus branded one?

 

No, it's a Delta unit. Here are pictures comparing the two:

 

Oh the Asus it's the same Delta model. But with a lighter and stylish shell. I bought one for my P651SE

 

Another shim job waiting to happen. FFS Clevo!

 

The heatsink is made by Foxconn but yeah, quality control is kind of needed.

 

I think they changed manufacturers/suppliers with the DM3 and KM1.

 

If so... Same ****y? Or worse?

 

Same old lottery.

 

Meh, I'm done with fiddling with my notebook's internals. I want one that literally just works, no questions asked. I'm considering the AW13 R3.

 

Apple MBP.
No high end laptop these days will just work. That is the sad truth and something that has become a standard for some reason. Unless you would want to keep getting replacements from Dell every week.

But i totally feel where you are coming from, im in a similar boat to a certain extent, that and i think i have too many laptops xD

 

Good luck with that. One word TRIPOD All the AWBook models have same HS design. And same behavior!! And I shall not talk about the outsorced AW tech team.


Pretty!! BUT, but, but... 2.3GHz is still better than 0.78 GHz I know

 

I honestly don't care anymore. Can I run Excel, Solidworks, Maya, Witcher 3, Civ VI, X-Plane 11 etc. at good framerates? Then it's good for me. I don't want to even open my notebook any more. It can look like a cluster ****, but if it works, it works.

I'm not buying a MacBook, either, because who the hell pays $3000 for an RX 460M?

 

You might have a hard time on the AW13 with these - Solidworks, Maya, Witcher 3, Civ VI. A female colleague has one at the studio i work at and all she uses it for is emails. Shes an animator here.

 

You will risk came into this nasty Tripod lottery. Guaranteed a big risk... If and when you end up in this Tripod trap, do not forget to return this Dellbook back and not let the outsorced AW tech come home to you and fix the problem.

 

How so? Core I7-7700HQ, GTX 1060. I'm not going to create multi-billion poly models, just simple stuff. I don't need the highest-end workstations, just something small but powerful.

 

If that is the case then sure it might work out. Im speaking from a professional production level point of view. We use GPU caches a lot to move around point caches / animations, and thats when the 1060 hits a wall.

But if your use is super simple, it might work for you.

 

If I were running a production studio, then I, too, would spend the money (that I'd recoup anyway) on Quadros and Radeon Pros, but most of my work is on a small scale, personal and academic level. Even my software licences are nearly free, courtesy of my old school.