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    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. bloodhawk

    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Nope. Prime95 Small FFT stable for more than 40 mins.
    Problem with CS isn't just with this laptop, i had it on my desktop as well, that was a system with a 3930k @ 5Ghz under a custom water loop with ample voltage. And when i was running static voltage, when the crash happened the uncore was turned off and i had a +25mV offset to compensate.
    Heck CS doesn't even use the processor cores properly. Tops usage that you will see is 70-80% on a good day.
     
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    Catman879 Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the advice. I completely forgot about that.
     
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    3930K uses qpi and bclk.

    Your static is locked and when CS spikes you crash. And that's if it's ported well.
    This 70 to 80 is across all cores? And that number would be different between cpus. 4C/6C/8C and so on. Would not be 70 to 80 percent in all 3 examples.
    But I may load it and see what it does. So far, Crysis was the one that would put a cpu to work. Which CS are you running?
     
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    It boils down to cost. Most are not willing to upgrade every time something new hits. And benching is a very expensive hobby with no gains in terms of money. So most test the water, but they move on to other things....
     
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    same, while I can achieve a stable overclock at X speed, load 50+ tabs in Chrome and the system hardlocks even though it passed a FireStrike benchmark.

    For me stability comes first, then I benchmark
     
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    for me, 4.4 and 4.5 GHz overclocks don't drop under load.

    4.6 GHz dropped to 4.5 GHz under load so I increased the Turbo Power Max to 135000 and Power Limits 1,2, 3, 4 to 250000 and the clocks held stable
     
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    Actually you don't need to over clock for that to happen. :D
    That is based off of using all available memory to run chrome. Although in your case.... That might take 400 windows....
     
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    Global Offensive. I dont even play at maxed out settings - 1280x960 everything set to low. Yeah, mostly 70-80% across all cores, it doesnt start taxing the GPU beyond 40% unless i change everything to Very high. Im not too bothered by the game because all i care about is constant 350-400fps.
    True the numbers are different for each case. Sad part is that the crashes are only related to CS, i dont get crashes running anything else. I do a lot of photo-realistic rendering and those calculations tax the CPU and RAM a lot.
    I checked the BSOD codes from when they happen playing CS and all point to bad overclocks. Im not really bothered by these because the system works rock solid doing actual work.
    Ill be home in a few days and will push the system to higher clocks for benches with the second power brick.
     
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    btw, I found that even at stock voltage for the GPU, it is very easy to achieve a 150 Mhz overclock, did you try that?

    I set my GPU to +100 and mem to +150
     
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    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8093234

    Thought I was done but she had a little more. Now i need to figure out why it downclocks to 4.1 during the physics test, with no throttling.
     
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    can you post your BIOS screen settings like I did in the first post of this thread? that incluldes every setting
     
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    Thanks for the settings I'll analyze them tomorrow and see what your power limits are and stuff as I'm in bed now.

    Sent from my Galaxy S7
     
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    My guess?

    Source Engine might be just hitting a different type of instruction set then P95, other type of calculation.

    its fun! and thats the only reason I will need!
     
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    Umm yeah, i can easily push mine to +175 /+150 without extra voltage and do benchmarks. Beyond that mine needs some extra boost.
    My normal setup is +150/+125 these days.
     
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    Probably, it doesnt happen all that often so im not bothered by it. Plus rebooting takes barely 15 seconds.
     
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    Yes! I was just getting on here to post ask this same question. I just recently got upgraded to latest PremaBios and so setup OC for 4.3x4 and all of my benchmarking scores went down from just stock settings lol. I see in XTU the frequency kept bouncing between 2.4 and 4.3 hence the issue. I am on the highest power profile and my settings were all modeled after Phoenix's screenshots for 4.4 w/ the exception of course of the clock speed being set @ 4.3 instead of 4.4 . I'm not experiencing any thermal throttling either so that's not what's causing the clock speeds to drop. Anything else I should check? (I'm running -120mv)
     
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    Don't forget to set TDP values in BIOS and if you want to keep using XTU for benching, then uninstall it including all of it's profiles and re-install it only after a clean boot at defaults and never change a setting in it again. Otherwise it'll simply override the BIOS settings on boot.

    If you also want to tune in Windows then better use @unclewebb 's Throttlestop as the prema BIOS unlocks many additional settings also for TS.
     
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    @Catman879

    So I just tried your settings, the moment I ran an AIDA64 stability test, the speeds went down to 4 GHz and it even keeps bouncing between 4 GHz and 2.5 GHz

    You Turbo Power Max is too low I think, try increasing both the Turbo Power Max and Turbo Short Power Max to 135000 then test
     
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    Just let the number on power and current to max.
    then all you have to care is voltage and actually cpu oc is mostly about voltage.
     
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    Mr. Fox told me that setting the power/turbo power max as high as possible is ok as the system will only use what it needs
     
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    Yes very true.
    Power and current should be maxed or enough for "what is needed".
    CPU OC is 99% voltage and thermal control.
    Enough power and current is like a prerequisite.
     
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    Thanks, I learn something new on this awesome thread every day.

    This is like a gift from heaven for the n00bie overclockers like me or what I like to call "Overclockers in Training"

    Rep added to j00
     
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    Nope :(
    I really want to get one but I can't find where I can buy.

    Anyway, I've tried to OC my samsung ram to 3000 yesterday just after seeing that ad.
    I could only let it POST but not boot into windows.
     
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    I am not a fan of RAM overclocking, like with my previous Samsung 2133 MHz 64GB Kit, I was able to overclock it to 2400 and even 2666 MHz, all benchmarks/stress tests ran fine, but when I play Need For Speed, after a while something happens that makes the FPS dip to 5 FPS and it sticks like that until I reboot. The moment I go back to stock speed everything is fine.

    I will contact HIDevolution to order them for me :D Then I'll try selling my 2133 MHz and 2800 MHz kits
     
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    I tried RAM overclocking. I didn't like it because I just don't understand it. every guide ive looked up online has been no help at all.

    I've tried that. In my XTU screenshot you can see i had it at 255000 I've even maxed it out and nothing. Still bouncing down to low 4's
     
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    not the power limit bro, I meant increase the Turbo Power Max and Shot Turbo Power Max from 115000 to 130000 or even 135000
     
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    Oops I wrote in between the 2 quotes so my whole reply looked like part of the original quote, sorry.

    I'm in the same boat @Catman879, I can see where my RAM timing show up in my PremaBios but I have no idea what settings to change. I also downloaded Thaiphoon but also am not sure where to edit what settings. My HyperX Ram is currently running at 2400mhz and the spec sheet from Kingston says it's compatible with XMP profiles but beyond that I don't get how to bump it up to 2666mhz or above? I did change the main multiplier # from 9 to 10 (9x133= 1197 x 2 = 2400mhz) to (10x133 = 1330x2 = 2666mhz) but the system wouldn't boot and I had to remove CMOS so that NVRAM was cleared and I could get back into my system. Maybe that's my answer? It's not overclockable?
     
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    OK can one of you guys post your settings. I need to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
     
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    I'll add it tomorrow I'm in bed bro
     
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    @Phoenix

    I have posted similar results @ 4.8.
    My setting was 164w 164A -51mv (adaptive) @ 4.8
    (GPU @ stock. I dont like OCing GPU)

    3dmark11.jpg
    3dmarkFS.jpg


    And this is 5.0. Not stable at all though.
    5.0.jpg


    I am using 4.7 not 4.8 because of temperature.
    Temps go over 90 when running "the division" @ 4.8 but 78~80 @ 4.7.

    BTW, this 6700k that I use could hold 5.0 at decent voltage on desktop.
     
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    Tested Cinebench R15 for the first time and @Phoenix This bench ↓↓↓ below fit also on the first page. Remember Cinebench is available in three different versions (2003 - R11.5 and R15), LOL
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    @Kpaxx There is not always time for benching as you know :eek:. I have been active from the first day I got my BGA KILLER in this thread... But here is a nice bench for you. Cinebench R15 1059 cb. Is this bench OK from an simple 4 core i7? I really wish it was possible with a 5960x in this BGA KILLER :(
    http://hwbot.org/submission/3180197_papusan_cinebench___r15_core_i7_6700k_1059_cb?recalculate=true
    CINEBENCH R15 1059cbr RECORD.png

    :D :) :p :D :) :p :bigyes:
    upload_2016-4-5_11-57-53.png
     
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    Awesome!
    Are you able to validate the 5Ghz with CPU-Z?
     
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    Keep an eye out later this week, i m going for that 5 BABY.
    Are you using a single power brick?
     
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    you are now the leader of the CPU overclock @ 4.9 GHz, good job!

    please post your wPRIME 32M and 1024M scores for validation of the overclock
     
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    score updated
     
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    This was not correct bro
    Old Cinebench R11.5 11.70pts + The new one executed to day Cinebench R15 1059cb
    Do not forget that Cinebench are created in 3 versions (2003 - R11.5 and R15) R15 is the latest version from http://www.maxon.net/products/cinebench/overview.html Many just think you should use R11.5 for benching, but this is totally wrong. All counts :D
     
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    so what score do you want me to put, I am confused

    please post score / link for me to insert :rolleyes:
     
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