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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. Papusan

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    Link is in my sig :D I have now executed R11.5 and R15 :p
    Create 3 of Cinebench results in leaderboad
    One for each version (2003 - R11.5 and R15) :)
     
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    what 2003 version? I added 11.70 and R15, where is that 3rd one and result? you have 2 scores in your sig :rolleyes:
     
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    Sorry my bad. You are correct. I have only executed Cinebench 11.5 and R15.
    But what I meant you should also make place for Cinebench - 2003 like the image from Hwbot. 3 different bench need three different names alongside the score.
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    Some have never seen or tested Cinbench -2003. Now they know that this bench exist if they look in the first page.
    I will also run this bench later :)
     
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    done
     
  5. godfafa_kr

    godfafa_kr Notebook Evangelist

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    6700k@5G on p750dm-g
    Yes. Here's a validation. :)
    Thank you again my Lord Prema~!


    http://valid.x86.fr/yax1ie

    5.0 validation.jpg


    ps. @Phoenix, can you please allow my 5g be on the first page? thanks buddy.
     
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    this is insane man! you are the king of CPU overclocking! your name has been added at the top

    Please share your BIOS settings ( every screen / setting including Turbo Power Max, power limit 1,2,3, 4) VR Current limits, you know the drill.....
     
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    Nothing special. I think I was lucky to get this nice CPU.

    My bios settings are set to [email protected], cache @4.4
    Static voltage override at 1.218v both for core and cache.
    power and current are set to 164w and 164A but this just dont matter.

    I usually change OC setting by TS because it has 4 modes.
    5G is, as I mentioned before, not stable. The highest I can make stable is 4.8 but too much heat so I use 4.7.

    These are 5G settings by TS.

    1.jpg

    2.jpg

    3.jpg
     
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    stonetrap Notebook Consultant

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    I carried on tinkering and now I can't get it to hold an overclock for actual activities.i can validate 5.0Ghz but when usage ramps clocks drop.
    I had to install xtu to get profiles for hwbot.org submission and now I've lost everything. Uninstalled xtu and deleted throttlestop, still struggling to have a working turbo.
    Miss being able to set a straight multiplier rather than turbo.

    I knew I should have taken better notes on my fine tuning, that was hours of work. Settings gave full stability at 4.8 won't even post. I'm a little disheartened to have been so close to my own goal and not even knowing what changed.

    Other than changing/maxing PMax Current and the three VR Current limits are there any Bios power configs to take note of that aren't in CPU config?

    Anyone else occasionally encountering a bug where after a bios change a reboot or two is needed to post? Regardless of setting, just that save and reboot rarely works?

    @Prema your work is excellent! Shame the hardware isn't there for multiple configs.
     
  9. Catman879

    Catman879 Notebook Guru

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    This happens to me all the time
     
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    temp1147462323 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Btw, what are your temps in dynamic, how fast do they reach their max while benching, do you have 980m setup on the farthest side or in the middle? Do you use middle fan somehow?
     
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    Yeah I get that too even if I used ThrottleStop
     
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    @Phoenix can you update the front page when you get a chance.
     
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    My BGA CRUSHING KILLER has more to give in Firestrike. This time 14372P (1512/8003). @Phoenix perhaps you can put this on the first page instead? And please delete my name and the Cinebench-2003 score. That is not my score. I have not Bench that Cinebench version yet. Just leave only the Cinebench-2003 listing in first page... Now I need a dual 330w for 3Dmark11 before I kill my single 330w :) Perhaps also new paste for the gpu. Gpu have to high temp vs Processor :( And this driver version give lower physics score(my highest Firestrike physics is still 15510P). Why can't they make proper drivers anymore? Damn you nGreedia, LOL
    FIRESTRIKE RECORD 14372P.png
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8110562

    Max load during 3Dm Firestrike. This single 330W psu is something completely different than the pretty flimsy weak 180w psu, Dellienware thought were appropriate to their early 2015 AW Echo BGA machines until they forced through the famous Hybrid bios, LOL
    upload_2016-4-6_4-47-25.png
     
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    @Papusan Damn you you couldn't even give me a day. do you have issues with current throttling at all? if not what are you doing different?
     
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    Sorry :(. Thought to wait to post this result. But I had time now. Maybe I also will push out better Firestrike scores later when I have more time. No throttling in bench tests. An ok chips I think... I use my processor at 4.8 GHz as usual 24/7. But I'm not finished to tweak the processor settings yet(I don't have much time to tweak right now). I always use my cooling pad + run max fan speed in benchmarks.
    If some experience throttling in 3DMark, it may seem that people still get a very ok Firestrike score(perhaps try different drivers). Fire Strike forgive processor throttling, unlike 3DM11 who push the processor more.
     
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    What's the voltage on your gfx card ?
     
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    +0.125v override.
     
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    Holy **** nice!
    My card can't do anything over 1500Mhz / 3800Mhz even at 1.3v that's like +.165v?
    But I did manage to hit 4.9Ghz last night, just need to get back home so that I can do some bench's with the second brick connected.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Yeah. The only thing we missing now is a proper drivers from the Green camp :mad:
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    By trying to gain too much control via driver they lost it...
     
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    Wow. What do you think it is? I am having Firestrike crashes when i try to run the bench at +350 Mhz / +500 Mhz @ 1.3V (Temperatures are 90C tops)
    I dont have any means of checking the power draw to see if im hitting the single brick power limit.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    90c is too hot. If you want to bench such high clocks/voltage you need to keep it cooler.
    Fox and others use ACs for benching...
     
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    Understood, but the crashes happen a few seconds into firestrike. I'm not sure what the cause is. My best guess is, not enough power, since at +.165v it should be able to hold those clocks without crashing. I might be wrong though.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    With a very high core OC we usually need to dial vRAM back a notch...
    Also every chip is different...a driver crash shows that it doesn't take the current settings.
    A permanent black screen indicates that the MOSFETs have reached their stable supply limit resulting in a brief communication loss with the MXM board.
     
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    If you think you have come all the way to the limit on your single 330W, then reduce Overclock on your processor and try again with the same high voltage on GPU. Then you will be almost 100% sure what prevent you from conducting the bench. The 330w bricks is good for 410w peak wattage. Maybe more.
     
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    Done boss :rolleyes:
     
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    What's your ASIC score?
     
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    71.XX% Dont remember exactly, can check once im home.
     
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    Mine is 73.4 so what it sounds like is you need to keep it cooler. I was maxing out in the mid 60's when I went for that overclock. Without the low temp I can only hit 275/500.
     
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    Yeah seems about the same on the core clock for me, Memory was about +300. Il try today with a lower CPU clock to check if its the power wall.
     
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    Mine is 70% :(
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    @Mr. Fox has a 970M with over 80% ASIC and it's only like 150Mhz+ and that's it...
     
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    Yup ASIC doesn't mean everything. My 970m in my Panther 5 was in the high 60s I believe and I got it to do +472Mhz Core/+250 Memory :

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/5358701
     
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    There is no guarantee that you get a good overclocker with very good Asic score, but the opportunity is slightly larger than if you get a card with low score. Maybe a card with medium Asic is best, or is this game also the so called silicon lottery?
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    I think the best rule of thumb is to expect nothing but garbage from NVIDIA and consider yourself extremely lucky if you're the exception and end up with a GPU that is not a piece of feces. I have always viewed ASIC as being meaningless and mostly something wannabe overclockers wasted time debating over in forums. I've had 580M, 680M and 780M cards with average to low ASIC that overclock like crazy and lack nothing in performance or stability. Every stinking GeForce GPU I have had with a good ASIC score turns out to be a turd. Maybe the unexpected position that they do not support overclocking on notebooks is because they know their notebook GPU products are garbage and they don't want to be held accountable for their poorly engineered trash failing.
     
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    Am I dreaming or what? Mr. Fox's score was north of 18K, you get 26K????? Sounds like a 980TI in SLI mode not 980M! *eek*

    you have been added to the leaders board smoking everyone else in the 3DMark11 benches
     
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    He is cheating with an 8 core processor. :vbfrown:
     
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    @Mr. Fox @bloodhawk

    how easy is it to repaste the GPU? is it simply a matter of removing the screws and putting IC Diamond in a pea sized dot? also, shall I spread it or just leave a pea sized dot or use the line method?
     
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    well I am @ 4.5 GHz and can even get 4.6 GHz but not enjoying the fans spinning up so much on the slightest activity.....

    if you wanna play with my system, I will be home in an hour so we can do a TeamViewer session

    You will get an Avira Antivirus Pro license sponsored by me if you need it.

    If you are up for it, I will PM you
     
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    and I thought the P870DM was the most powerful laptop in the world...heh......

    What is your Sager equivalent to in Clevo models?

    Edit, nevermind, it's a Clevo P570WM
     
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    Its super easy, but there is a good chance you will need slightly more than the standard dot. You will see when you take the cooler off, how much was already there.
     
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    please draw me a picture using MS paint on the GPU and how much I should apply.....shall I spread it myself or just leave it there?
     
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    Slightly more than this : http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/img_0899-jpg.133561/
    But it all depends on if your copper plate is making good contact with the core or not. If it is pretty tight then you will see a thin uniform layer on the core, other wise it will be a slightly thicker one. If it is a thicker one then you might want to try slightly more than the amount in the image, if its the former then go with the standard pea.
     
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    WHOA nononono. Dude i was just kidding. Im just a salty idiot.
    Dont take comments like that by me, all too seriously.
     
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    thanks for your encouragement to do this bro

    Gonna play a game now to ensure it's really stable
     
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    @Prema

    Guys any idea why VMX in HWiNFO shows in RED as if it was disabled although I ensured CPU Virtualization in CPU Settings is enabled and VT-d is also enabled......

    In the Processor info in HWiNFO it shows as CPU Virtualization = Present

    but in the main menu it shows in red as if was disabled....

    vmx.png
     
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