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Yeah, I do remember. Clevo must have seen that and decided, uh oh, that works way too good. We better fix that right now before somebody gets happy, LOL.

 

btw km1 stock bios xmp profile 1 work with 3000mhz ram (gskill c16 3000 2x8)

 

Yeah, I had wondered about that, but Sager does have "some" say so on their bios, just not enough to go full unlock or even 60% power unlocked.
Heck, as of today's date we are locked out at 1.375V Max. So holding 5.3 ghz or anything above that is pretty much impossible. I would have to go back through the bios files we have to see if that was different when i was benching 5.3 ghz.

From my understanding...3k 8's pretty much worked every time....It was 3k 16's that had the problem....

 

It will take years of use at that for degradation to even be relevant. However i do run my 6850k at 4.6Ghz for regular use @ 1.355V.

 

And, for something cheap like 6700K and 7700K, I have to wonder why that even matters. So what... it gets worn out. Big deal. Have fun with it and when it dies you can toss it in the trash and get a new one. It's not like it costs as much as an Extreme CPU or a mobile 1080. In that case, you need lots of Vaseline ready or it's going to hurt a lot.

 

I think you quoted the wrong post xD. If you meant why I tried occt it was to see if I would get edp throttle like mobius was. Turns out I did and needed to change some bios options wrt system agent limits for current/voltage.

As for the temps I do have more cooling mods to do, just not finished unmodded temp testing yet

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This 4.7 has been an on going thing.

 

Oh. I already have mine more than perfectly stable, even before I adjusted the stuff I just mentioned. It's just too hot for me when the GPUs are stressed. It's not that it's "too hot" as in "it thermal throttles", I just like to keep the CPU in the mid 70s at most when I game, and 4.7 was more mid 80s (at least on certain titles that stress the whole system).

I just want to lower the voltage I use for it more and more. I learned that even a little voltage reduction seems to affect temps much more than clockspeed does. 4.4GHz with stock voltage is hotter than 4.7GHz at 1.11v static, by a good amount.

 

That's why i mentioned the 4.7 stuff. If you were happy then you would have no complaints.
The best cure for this is to run a laptop cooler. The laptop cooler pushes air across all the heatsinks while the internal fan only cools the fins. That would be the biggest help at keeping things cooler for longer periods of time. (personal opinion only though)
As to the 4.4 vs 4.7 argument. You are totally correct. That was hashed out a long time ago. Stock voltage is like 1.28V to 1.35V vs 1.11V or just lower the static voltage for 4.4 and lower the cache voltage and multiplier. Since that contributes to heat.(personal opinion only though)

 

Yeah when I am finished with stock temp testing and I use a shim with LM and repad the gpus we'll see if I get happy with 4.7 =D. Though I would likely leave it at 4.4 most of the time

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THIS.
Will help a LOT!

 

I'll see if I could get one. I really do want one, a U3 with some fans.

 

More than likely.....You will still be mad. That is just the reality of the situation.....

 

Hey if I gotta be mad I gotta be mad. I'll make this thing tame somehow.

 

Make sure to get better fans. Take a look at @Mr. Fox guide on modding it.

You can get a lot of mileage with this. On hot days and very cold days. It's portable and high powered like your laptop.

Not saying that won't happen, but if it isn't running gpus at 42C underload...you are not going to be happy. Why? Because you will see ours running more optimal at the same clocks.

 

That will change things a lot for you. I did not realize you did not already have one. But, be warned that the stock fans on the U3 are not really going to do hardly anything at all. They are a waste of electricity. In fact, all laptop coolers with stock fans are junk. Those that run on USB power are the junkiest of the junk. The thing the U3 has going for it is build quality and mod-ability. I've had several other coolers that received raving reviews by "professional" reviewers, and I promise you they were as wrong as wrong can be and they were absolutely worthless. I do not consider a 1-2°C change to be representative of a quality cooling solution, but that's about what you can expect from the best coolers with stock fans.

Edit: this would have helped your last machine quite a bit as well. I know that one was tough to overclock because of thermal issues.

 

Brother Fox is right. With these coolers here.....You can bench with the best and be very viable at it!

 

yeah I do need to get that. It'll be the next thing I get. I've actually wanted one for ages.

Honestly, my GPUs generally do what I want, actually. The only thing I could nitpick about is that I think 200-220W would be better for them. Even under high 70c range load, I don't even drop below 1800MHz. Here's a good example of the whole system being pretty warm this REALLY hot morning and still holding well over 1800MHz:


If repadding helps that even by 5-10c (which I keep hearing is what to expect) then I'll be pretty happy, honestly. The CPU is warmer because the GPUs are, though I think the shim (or when I get the bitspower IHS that Q937 says he had for me) should also help a bit.

 

It looks like you have a really good pair of GPUs. Congrats. Some of them won't do that even in the same operating conditions. We don't have ASIC any more and you have to test them in a real world situation to find out if they are good or shoddy samples.

 

Ah, I guess I lucked out. My gpus need well over 80c on each to drop to 1795MHz

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@D2 Ultima
Now....At the laptop cooler and I think you can gain another 10C to maybe 20C drop....Depending on how much noise you can take...LOL

 

Please I already use max fans for more demanding titles I think I can handle the u3 xD

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Pssssh.... xD

 

Mine in my Clevo are similar to yours, but the MSI 1080 loses clock speeds based on temperatures a lot faster. The @Prema vBIOS helps it a HUGE amount and it's almost as powerful as the 1080s in my Clevo (pulls +200W stock and overclocks very nicely) but it is a whole lot more sensitive to temperate changes. It will drop to 1975MHz at the slightest hint of temps are going to get much past 45°C and the clocks won't come back to over 1850MHz again until the temps go back down to under 50°C. Once I hit like 80° the clocks are down into the 1700's and ain't never coming back until it goes below 50°C. But, for playing games it make no discernible difference. Framerate hardly changes and the experience is the same with 1750MHz as 1850MHz as long as I don't know it has thermal throttled. I only notice when benching and scores suck.

 

Ah. Hope Prema magic happens and I can get some Prema gpus =D

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I posted this last year about what happens with temps.....See how you fair....

With this. I'm able to game at 1911 solid, but if I hit a temp of 66C it drops to 1898. Now, if i cool gpu to 62C, it will go back up to 1911 and hold.
Can you try this to see if you can hold it?. And keep an eye on when the change occures. My range is 62C(Clock raises back to normal) to 66C (Clock lowers)


Edit: When I raised the clock to 1949.
At 1949 it drops to 1936. And it's still holding at 70C
At 1936 it drops to 1924@76C and return once temp hits 72C.

So now you have your range.
42-47=13mhz
52-57=13mhz
62-67=13mhz
72-77=13mhz
82-87=13mhz

 

They deserve credit for that. I rail on them for their screw-ups and they deserve every bit of it, but they also deserve to be acknowledged when they do something right. They did something right with that. Thanks, Clevo.

 

You have probably seen it before. Cpu temp around ambient even a bit under with use of a modded U3. Run, buy and mod

 

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5428362&postcount=348

 

speedshift off or on using 0-50 (10 step) doesn't have any noticeable effect

CB15 scored 2-3 points in average from one another

 

Intel Says i7 7700K CPUs Shouldn’t Be Overclocked In Response To Countless Overheating Complaints

"The complaints have been piling up for over three months prompting Intel to finally end the silence and respond to the cries of the community yesterday."

 

LOL
So dump the k's and just buy the standard SKU's.

 

Or give us a proper discount on the newcomer that comes this year. Just show Intel the receipt of what you already bought

 

Mine's together now, the new lid (7th gen) has made little difference to be honest. Waiting on the older (6th gen) lid to give that a go.

 

Called it.

 

Flat desk performance in a warmish room is around 90C at 4.8GHz with the fans maxed running the XTU stress test.

 

Glad I was not the only one who noticed this.

 

I'm still using a 0.5mm shim so I expect the taller one to work better.

 

Did you guys miss my post where i stated that the KBL version will be useless?

I kinda should have tagged everyone just in case.

 

It looks nice and could be good if you want to have one lid for liquid metal and one without, but yeah on the whole mostly redundant.

But it's always nice to test to confirm

 

The Skylake version is more usefull with both the 6700k and the 7700k because of the increased height.

 

Any difference in the height, between Skylake version and Bitspower IHS?

 

http://imgur.com/a/36Ger


Thats the stock Skylake IHS vs Bitspower Skylake IHS.

 

How do I do this exactly? I know I need to edit the .ini or something.

 

Whoa wait, how did you unlock the Voltage slider? I have done the .ini edit multiple times on the desktop and it worked every single time. On the DM3 however it never worked. Anything specific that needs to be done?

 

Thank you. Now I know I am not crazy and I can enjoy my weekend instead of trying to figure it out.

 

Works for both of my laptops. My slider is unlocked. It does not seem to change voltage but if I slide it to right all the way my benchmarks scores do improve a bit. Clocks seem to hold a little better for me. I even have it slid all the way to the right for stock core/memory clocks. I think it tweaks the curve even though it does not show on the curve graph. You have to do the file for each GPU in SLI and have voltage control enabled in MSI Afterburner settings as well.

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthre...fterburner&s=260d210c652fd4e29ba64987f3e467ac

ENABLE VOLTAGE CONTROL "FIX"

Step 1: Go to your MSI Afterburner Profiles folder (C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles)
Step 2: Right-click the file named "VEN_10DE&DEV..." and go > Properties > Security
Step 3: Select "Edit" and then click on "Users (username\Users)" and with the permission boxes below, check "Allow" for the first box - Full control. Click OK and OK again (this allows the file to be saved after editing it).
Step 4: Now you can open the file named "VEN_10DE&DEV..." in WordPad and replace everything you see with this:

[Startup]
Format=2
CoreVoltageBoost=
PowerLimit=
ThermalLimit=
ThermalPrioritize=
CoreClkBoost=
MemClkBoost=
[Settings]
VDDC_Generic_Detection=1

Step 5: Save the file and restart MSI Afterburner
Step 6: Go into MSI Afterburner settings and check the boxes under General > "Unlock voltage control" and "Unlock voltage monitoring" then click OK and restart Afterburner.
Final: GPU voltage control is unlocked and can be used now up to +100mV as well as monitoring GPU voltage in the OSD.

 

Ahh so its not the oem2 files for our laptops.

Thanks a bunch for pointing this out! Really appreciate it.

 

@bloodhawk
It's only good for show (Shows voltage on OSD). It does not actually work unfortunately....Although for you....That might be different.

 

Noted. Will give it a shot tonight. Danks Based John.