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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

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    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hello everone!

    I'm having a problem

    On many images on the internet, I'm seeing those weird line-like artifacts. What could be causing them? Of my display was going bad, the print screen option would probably not copy them, can it be a hardware failure or a driver failure?

    They also glimmer and flicker when moving the mouse over the image, if this helps. Happens in Chrome, but does not happen in Edge...
    [​IMG]
    Another example:

    [​IMG]

    And on Edge, it is clean:

    [​IMG]

    I do't really have any overclock on computer or on anything, curious what is going on. Cannot trace the source of this problem that well...
     
  4. Meaker@Sager

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    Try re-installing chrome :)
     
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    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    I disabled the support for harwdware acceleraton thingy and so far it looks okay although I really fear screen tearing on youtube videos as this happened before when I disabled the hardware accel.

    Will reinstall chrome soon, let's hope the problem is not hardware nor GPU driver related though since it looks like the latest windows will upgrade the GPU drivers no matter what I tell it to do.
     
  6. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Just use DDU in safe mode, it'll disable automatic Win GPU driver updates.
     
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    nailed DDR4-2900 on my corsair sticks with tightened timings :) it seems like the corsair sticks are just not as performant as the G.skill ones. either that or the P751DM mobo is a restricting factor here. the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, as usual

    in any case, with the stable settings at 2900 mhz this gives me an improved chance to find stability at 3000 Mhz :)

    here are my timings thus far as a reference for other users with Corsair DDR4-3000 sticks (2x16 GB in my config):

    [​IMG]

    Notes:
    - CWL and REFI timings are highlighted in red due to the fact that I am not able to change them (yet), since I switched to a Beta Prema Mod due to my recent 7700K upgrade
    - I left WTR at stock for 2666/2800 Mhz (thus its set to 0), but Ill go back and check what the tightest stable value is for each speed

    I will post updates on performance, as well as CWL/REFI/WTR tweaking, so stay tuned :)

    credits to
    @Prema for making such detailed and in-depth RAM tuning possible via his awesome Bios Mod!
    @Mr. Fox for giving me some pointers for timing values to start off with!
     
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    That's a big hit in timings to get up to 2900mhz, 2800mhz looks best.
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    yep im suspecting as much as well. thats why i wanna double check with performance data. in the meantime, im trying to get 3000 mhz stable, sooo close! first errors popping up at around 90% tm5 run, never been so close before! :D

    Sent from my HUAWEI NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk
     
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    update as promised:

    tuned the WTR timings manually for 2666 and 2800 Mhz, so I ended up with these stable (TM5 & Memtest86+ overnight) settings:

    [​IMG]

    i also checked performance with AIDA64, the following are average values of ten runs each:

    [​IMG]

    surprisingly, 2900 Mhz didnt take such a big hit in latency, but at the same time sported a nice boost in bandwidth! so ill stick with it for now :)

    Next step: 2933/2966/3000 Mhz....
     
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  11. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Super cool findings, Brother!

    Keep up the great work!

    I fear that this would take tremendous amounts of time to get up and running, but man am I curious now!
     
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    No ****.

    [​IMG]
     
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    leftsenseless Notebook Evangelist

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    I wish all of my firestrike runs were this useless! o_O
     
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    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Cool results!

    Everyone seems to be toying with the RAM speeds, I'm the only one left with the default RAM speed at 2133 :p
     
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    no worries there mate, RAM wont give u any miracle performance boosts, but its just so much fun to tinker with :D besides, id LOVE to FINALLY get my advertized 3000 Mhz on this damn kit! :p
     
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    Shhhhh, I tried to say this in another thread and was shut down by other members who love to OC their ram. hahaha. I agree that getting every ounce of performance is worth it, especially if you have the talent, it was just my argument that starting everywhere else and ending with RAM was better. I am always amazed at how much talent and passion exists in this community.
     
  17. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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  18. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    The size of the AcerBook 21X is ok, the same is the design. But the whole concept is broken. A crippled JOKEBOOK as all others out there!! You can't change the pure facts. You can find benchmarks in Futuremark leaderboard. Here is FIRESTRIKE
    Compare it... Yourself will see it's Crippled!! The machine is big enough to contain HEDT processors!! But contain a 45w 2.9-3.9GHz Intel Mobile i7 Turd.
     
  19. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well, the advertising is still funny. Does it count as anti-advertising?
     
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  20. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    This shouldn't be posted in the OC thread!! :cool: Sorry :)
     
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    Totally agree with that!

    Couldn't find that other thread I was looking for before!!!

    Returning to OC
     
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  22. Mr. Fox

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    Yes, it counts as FALSE advertising. They just flat-out, bald-faced lied about the "fastest" part. They are either stupid/ignorant, or just dishonest.

    It's OK since it's always good to have an object of ridicule available available for public scorn.

    Capture.JPG
     
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    I think we are going to need that 780W AC adapter once @Prema vBIOS comes our way for the P870DM3. Gonna be awesome. Seeing 675W with stock vBIOS now.

    P870DMG-675W.jpg
     
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  24. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Yeah nothing pulls like TimeSpy.
    Saw 600W on 5Ghz with stock vBIOS here as well...

    TBH, 780W may not be enough with the mod...
     
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    I guess we shall find out soon enough....
    [​IMG]
     
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    I'm sure it would accelerate very quickly and have a high terminal velocity if dropped out of a plane side edge facing down :p
     
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    Maybe you haven't seen it. Take a look in my previous post.

    I didn't respond on that topic yoo showing here (FALSE advertising by @Georgel - who is ON topic :vbbiggrin:). Was something else, who is already deleted in his edit :D
     
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    music to Fox´ ears :p :D
     
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    780w not going to be enough band wagon -

    [​IMG]


    But i dont get it, even if each of the GPU's tops out at 300W each, we still have 180W left?
    If the 780W PSU is 90% efficient, we are left with 100W. :S
     
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    The 780W PSU has a 900W peak power draw limit, but it won't be able to hold it longer then just a couple of seconds...Fox pulls 675W from the system with the 190W stock vBIOS.

    The 1080N's can pull north of 225W each AT STOCK CLOCKS & VOLTAGE once the limits are removed.

    We already saw an 800W power draw with the 980N SLI POC in original P870DM under AC conditions and power draw rises with temps...
     
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    Can't really do any testing yet, because the laptop is not fully put together....Still working out the bugs....
    [​IMG]
     
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    Anyone want to group buy the Bitspower skylake IHS to the US?
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    clevo mod vbios?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Did you flash it using an external device or have you bypassed the nvidia lock?
     
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    No one has bypassed that nvidia lock....
     
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    Ah


    Any issues with the unlock vbios so far? Wonder if it's stable release or you still working out the bugs?
     
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    Might want to check the last 4 pages , not the same mod, but something similar.
     
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    @Mobius 1
    Don't know about all that....This is all a work in progress. :)


    It's an off the books project part of the TheMagnificent*7 :D

    Edit:
    Rough test with bios at stock, just set it from os and ran with it.
    Throttling completely removed.
    [​IMG]
     
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    shunt mod?
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    nope.


    22k in coming!!!!

    Well my top spot was nice while it lasted, now i gotta make way for the real deal :p
     
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    other than beta vbios and shunt mod I don't see anything unusual

    also scerate having 700 pts lower in 3dmark due to creators update
     
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    You need to check the graphs. And then the leader boards.

    Also im running Creators update as well.

    EDIT - nvm. dont think i posted these here -
    Stock shunts-

    [​IMG]

    Shorted Shunts -
    [​IMG]


    Unicorns. -
    [​IMG]

    On normal Air, max fans , @ 5Ghz –
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12692758
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
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    No stupid dynamic NVIDIA clock nonsense. Without any erratic room temperature throttling baloney, it obeys your orders and runs full blast at the clock speeds you tell it to run or crashes if you tell it to do too much. That's why the wimpy little 150W 1080 in the Tornado F5 is pulling 230W and kicking Clevo 1080 digital ass for the moment. That will change with the mod on Clevo GPUs.

    Edit: In other words @Prema restoring normalcy and enabling 1080 to function properly instead of it acting like the spastic piece of garbage NVIDIA intended for it to be.
     
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    removing the -13mhz every +5c after 50c?
    but doesn't the 1080 throttle to match the 150w cap still?
     
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    image in spoiler broken
     
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    Errr no. for now its much simpler than that.

    And Clevo cards have a very very lenient temp limit before they start throttling. Check the graphs in the spoilers above.

    Seem to be showing up fine here.

    Updated them again.

    Why would it match the 150W cap when that cap has been lifted?
     
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    The cap on the MSI GPU is now 300W instead of 150W. I haven't been able to go that high yet. Probably need higher voltage for higher core clocks. But the power max is 300W and it effortlessly pulls 200W+ running stock clocks with no offsets.
     
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    sounds promising

    patiently waiting
     
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    Can you run TimeSpy for me with the processor @ 5Ghz ? (on the F5) and take a screenshot of the CPU graph when the result shows on the 3DMark application?
     
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