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Maybe you could ask Khenglish (T|I) if he knows if your MB can be fixed by yourself.

 

Right! If Clevo still updated firmware for DM1 and if they didn't change the MXM layout, I think I would be more willing to replace my motherboard and have less thought of going back to desktop platform.

That's what I am thinking, a power station at home and a thin quality game-book on the go.

 

Maybe I will consult him for help, .
If it's just capacitor or mosfet, I think I can replace them without too much difficulty.

 

Have you tried replacing the 1070N with cheap GPU yet?
(K2000M, K3000M, M600M, GTX 560M, GTX 765M are some cheap alternatives, but might need to turn UEFI off)

when motherboard dies, normally it will make repeated beeping sounds, and i dont think there would even be light on at all.

 

Right now I don't have other card to test it yet.
If the GPU dies, the motherboard should make beeping sound and I should be able to hear hard drive spinning and power up the usb ports. Now I am experiencing the opposite, none of the usb ports can be powered up and no beeping sound.

 

not really, i had a dead 870M before.
when i pressed the power button, it lights up and then fans spinning, thats it.
If i take out the dead GPU (no GPU plugged in), only the power button lights up, nothing spins,
no sounds at all. (this is somewhat similar to what you described)
If it was a UEFI problem with vbios, everything would work like normal except screen wont light up, (fans spinning, HDD light flickering)
If it is a CPU problem or RAM problem, your laptop would restart repeatedly.
i also had a AMD HD6350 MXM3.0B, when i plug it in, the motherboard would make repeated beeping sounds as well.

 

How long did the power button light up? Does it look like this in the video?

 

i'm not sure if 870DM will have the same result as 775dm.
did your power button LED light up in the video?( it looked like it has power)
775dm doesnt have that flash light thing, when you press the power button.

mine was just power button lit up, and stays there, nothing else moves or spins .

 

First and foremost I am sorry to hear that.
Loosing expensive hardware always sucks.

Second, I applaud your honesty!
Too many user just suddenly stop posting about their modding endeavours when **** hits the fan.

Third, the behaviour there looks like something is shorted.
Did you try without GPU, yet?
If it's the same, make sure to check the MXM power pins for a short with a multimeter (battery out).

 

Do the inductors/gpu warm up at all?

 

Good man. Someone had to try it. Rep points given

 

@Prema @dzpliu @Mr. Fox @bloodhawk , you guys are right!!!
It's the GPU, not the motherboard! I could turn on my laptop after taking out the graphics card.
My bad, being too inexperienced... Didn't expect the motherboard would act like that when the GPU died. Thank you all of you guys so much for giving me input and support( @Papusan , @Stress Tech )!
I took a look of the card(MSI 1070), no sign of burning or smoked. I think my whole card was shorted, I tried to program the vBIOS to see what will happen, the programmer said "operating current exceeds the limit...".
Right before the card died, it was not being loaded at all. I clicked the reset button in Afterburner to reset to default, then my laptop just suddenly went off.

Thank you, man!
Maybe it's better for me to show the experience of my hardware failure, so other users can see a warning of how far it can go and avoid the same mistake.

 

The GPU didn't warm up. When the graphics card was plugin, the power light can only be lighted up like 0.1 second then went off. Now when I removed the GPU, the laptop can be turned on again.

 

@Coolane
Let this serve as due warning as to why we do not use furmark.....

 

How much is the 1070 for the DM1? At least you know what it's limits are. You pushed that card to it's death. No messing around

 

They average around £500. I seen one sell on bid at £370. Has anyone seen any cheaper?

 

I just saw a 1070 from Eurocom for $817.00. They want almost $1600.00 for the 200 watt 980. It's insane money for these parts.

 

I wonder how many fried Motherboard (graphics is welded on MB) Dellienware must replace on warranty due they was forced to increase the graphics power limits by angry buyers who was Fooled by Azor's false statements regarding graphics TDP. And I wonder how many JokeBook owners who must pay for new Motherboard themselves due expired warranty. A lot of the AWbook owners experience stutter and freezes after they upgraded to the new graphics vBios with higher power limits. It will be ugly

 

Its $650 for a 1070 on Ebay. Eurocom is way over priced for everything!

lol

 

It's about $550 on eBay or I will see how does the bidden one go.
I still don't think Furmark killed my card, there might be something else(did) that I haven't found out.

 

Everyone in this thread

 

Ok, I have to ask. Why exactly do you think it did not kill your card?

 

There are several reasons, let me list them one by one:
1. I loaded my card with constant 240~250W through FSU stress test more than 10 times(10 mins each) under hot condition, it was fine. I even loaded it 260~270W through Furmark occasionally, it was still fine. The Furmark experiment that I did only loaded 220~230W(30 mins, 720p&2xMSAA);

2. After the 30 mins Furmark, I loaded Dark Souls 3 4k Max for 2 hours, no observation of weakening, artifact, or malfunctioning. Laptop ran overnight just fine;

3. The other day right before the card died, it was not under load at all. I was playing with the voltage curve in Afterburner and decided to do a reset. I hit "reset" button, then my laptop shut down instantly(I thought my motherboard died, it's actually my GPU);

4. No smoking or burning sign found on my graphics card after it died;

This is what I really think:
One week ago, the Chinese modder posted a tutorial of teaching how to hex-mod Pascal vBIOS to bypass temperature. I was testing the method that he posted to reduce thermal throttling; while it was sort of working, but I think unlinking those addresses caused Afterburner mistakenly and instantly killed my card in accident.

Another possibility is, my card had aged with the accumulated tortures that I did to it and just suddenly gave up on me.

 

Hummmmm, Ok. Then you keep on using it since you seem to be new to this and I don't want to argue your "Opinion".

 

@Coolane , now my honest friendly advice is what most people on this thread are going to tell you, Furmark has fried cards before, even if it didn't do that for you in this particular instance, it is best to use other benchmarks knowing that it had caused some problems before and you're using a very expensive product. Rather than saying for sure if it is at fault, it is best to be "better safe than sorry" and not experiment with your video card if there is a risk.

 

The problem with furmark is it not only stresses the gpu, but all the other components one forgets are on the pcb. Once they get pushed out of spec, the card will start to show signs of degradation. Some cards last longer, but in the end it causes unforeseen damage to the trace lines running through the pcb. They are only designed to take so much and once they do..the cards start failing. They start throwing code 43 or no boot or 5 to 8 beeps. And unless you have a microscope, one would not really be able to tell by looking at it. One can get lucky and it might be a resistor or cap, but if you don't know what you are doing you can test it to find out and just make things worse. We have already ran a few cards into the dirt by running Furmark. And we use to say the exact same thing until it kept happening. And the funny thing is....It wasn't even while running Furmark. It was just doing normal stuff, but the damage was already done and it just needed time to finally hard fail.

 

I can put a bridge even up to 120% of its rated load and it will likely be fine for a while, but eventually if you keep exceeding it then it will collapse.

 

@Coolane did the single 1070 perform better than the 200 watt 980?

 

It does yes.

 

@Coolane , Glad to hear the beast is doing great, I didn't believe that the 870DM1 failed on us with just the increased power on the unlocked MSI 1070N. Fox overclocked his modded 980Ms to 200W on a 770ZM machine iirc, these are LGA machines not some wimpy trash turdbook garbage with limited power, castrated parts or stupidly binned silicon & Thanks for your invaluable contribution, +rep again for your work, keep it going we need people like you. If we stop pursuing the passion, LGA on DTR form factor would be history (We know how the past was to the present - Alienware, P570WM), even with a powerful HEDT machine, the DTR is simply a league on it's own, I'm glad to at-least witness these ultimate masterpieces of technology without limitations in this pro-corporate world. Don't let it go ..

"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - The Dark Knight

Plus here's something you might want to know from the professional himself

 

Not as much as you guys have been getting, but it still is pretty cool to see those NVMe drivers.

A few questions though.

about 50C idle is a normal temp?

70C load temp is normal?

Also, should I place it on the bottom with the other HDDs, or the airflow is better on next to the main coolers?

 

I will let you judge , this is the score of my daily clocks before my card died: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13066212

Thank you for your kind words, and all of you who given me advice and suggestion!
I will keep the machine and hopefully I can even upgrade to the next-gen MSI card in the future.
Maybe @Meaker@Sager is right, the motherboard detected a short on the graphics card and prevent it to be turned on to blow something else, like a self-protection.

I gain in contact with @Khenglish, I am going to ship him the card and see if he can attempt to fix it.
I even asked him to reinforce the card if possible, but he said the card is already strong enough (even for LN2) and felt surprise that something got blown out. I will update with you guys about how this goes.

 

Ask him if he can patch in the auxiliary power connector from the appropriate rails.

 

That's a good idea! I was also thinking to see if he can add the hard-voltage mod, lol.
Let's see if he can light it up first, hopefully it's something simple that can be repaired easily.

 

Let's lighten the mood?

Free game for all! It's gorey but very fun, I'm sure @Mr. Fox wants it if he doesn't have it yet. It's first person sword mechanics but there's lots of gun usage too https://www.humblebundle.com/store/...4ab4eca30224e3f:ot:56e87213733462ca89ab9df1:1

 

Yeah, that is a fun game. I already have it, but anyone that doesn't should get it. Lots of swords, guns and sarcastic slap-stick comedy. Thanks for sharing Brother @D2 Ultima

 

Tis what I do

 

I went ahead and grabbed it because it is the edition with extra DLC and sound track. Adding the new key added those items, so a free upgrade is nice.

 

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/cybersecurity-wiley
Great price on these books for a great cause (EFF)!!!

 

I like that game, fun to play when angry

 

You have the thermal pads for use with M.2? CLEVO P775DM3 Manual.pdf
You could also use copper/thermal pads on top op the M.2 ssd's if you have the needed space.

 

I'm looking through the contents of my box right now, but I dno't seem to find anything like that in the box

 

Sorry it took long but here are my data
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Do you have such a picture for the P870DM3 model? I checked the service manual but it isn't NEARLY so information-full, unless I got something else.

Edit: seems I got the user's manual even though it says service manual... 11/10

Edit #2: CLEVO'S WEBSITE IS PERFECT, THE SERVICE MANUAL AND USER MANUAL TRIGGER THE SAME DOWNLOAD, I GET THE USER MANUAL EACH TIME.

 

Only Service manual for P870DM / P870DM-G_ESM.pdf

 

I have thermal pads for the SSDs and I have no idea whatsoever how/where to install them, and it seems to be impossible to find out.

I neeed a saviourrrrrrrrr

 

Shouldn't be any different than for P870DM1 As nothing is on the underside of the M.2 ssd's.



Edit. You could find similar like this M.2 cooler - M.2 cooler and mod it. Or make something by yourself.
Remove the clamp and instead use eletrical tape/kapton tape.

 

The SSDs are installed fine, the problem is the thermal pads. The P775DM3 clearly has a spot for them. The P870 does not.

 

I can't see the need for them on the underside same as for P7xxx. Pads and copper hims or use parts of these M.2 heatsink in the previous post. On top of ssd's fastened with eletrical/kapton tape and all will be good

The reason for the pads on P7xx is the components underside the ssd's