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@Prema , @Mr. Fox , @hmscott , @Meaker@Sager , @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER and everyone else, found something interesting. Evidently there is a way to basically turn off Intel Management Engine. Who's going to try it?
http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2017/08/disabling-intel-me.html

Also, who will test the performance after implementation?

Edit: It also has this part: "This means that this method will not work in server and mobile versions (Apollo Lake) of ME." Don't know if that applies to our Clevos though....

 

Not sure about Clevo's but on Lenovo and Dell AW's there is an additional problem of Boot Guard and FPF's.

 

What the article said about boot gaurd is: "We also found some code in BUP that, when HAP mode is enabled, sets an additional bit in Boot Guard policies. Unfortunately, we have not succeeded in finding out what this bit controls." So it may take some time to find out exactly how HAP works with it.

 

Even if they can find the bit that controls Boot Guard, without the Fuse being blank / programmed as disabled, nothing can be done about it. If things go according to plan, i might be able to confirm if swapping out the PCH on the new AW's helps or not.

 

Question for the experts out there

I am thinking on getting the new DDR4 - 3200 ram Ripjaws... do you guys know if its compatible with the p870KM1? will i be able to run at rated speeds and timings?

 

Doing productivity out and about and maybe some light gaming and then getting full on custom water cooled desktop level performance when at home. That's what I did with my old setup.

Had the original Titan-x running at 1.5ghz core clocks.

 

With the DM3, not many have been able to run it at full 3200Mhz, not sure about the KM1.

 

Can someone show me a link on where to buy this 3200 RAM RipJaws please. I can not find it any where on google. Only on newsfeeds.

 

Maybe this is great for overclocking cooling for the MOSFET's.
A test on a SUNON UB5U3-700 Mini Fan powered by a USB lead. Measures at 30mm x 30mm x 3mm. I'm really sorry about the video quality. It was done with a Samsung Galaxy S5 in a dull room. I held the phone to record in landscape, so watching this video might look a bit awkward to watch. Tilt your head 90 degrees lol. The pound coin and the USB flash drive is only there for size reference. For a small fan it really has some power for its size. This fan would be great to cool an M.2 SSD drive or some MOSFET's for overclocking. It makes a buzzing sound though when on. Hopefully a review with a better camera will be coming soon.

 

Which MOSFETs are you worried about?

 

Well I bought it just for the giggles and I was wondering if I should put 2x of them in a empty M.2 drive bay blowing it on to one of my M.2 SSDs which has the AlphaCool heatsink on. I hope it will improve the longevity of the M.2 SSD and stop thermal throttling. Or either place it next to the CPU MOSFET's. As I have researched that if I would put some 17w/mk thermal pads on my CPU heatsink, it will transfer more heat to the MOSFET's than a 6w/mk thermal pad would do. So I was thinking to stuff one or two these mini fans in there (under the 6w/mk thermal pads), blowing on to the MOSFET's on the sides where I would attach mini copper fins with out making any electrical contact... I just want a bit of fun

 

The pads should not make too much of a difference to be fair so long as the fit is good.

 

I have took my C-clips off the CPU heatsink and I am using the BitsPower IHS. What thermal pad sizes shall I use now you reckon?

 

I can't quite remember 0.5 on the inductors and then 1.5ish on the VRM chips I think.

 

Bitspower lid is about 1mm thicker than the orginal lid for 7700K. The best is measure the exact thickness. But try add 0.3/0.5mm on top as I mean 1mm pads can be too thick, then see if the pads being slightly compressed aka making good contact. If you can not get the correct pad thickness, then use mentioned pads on top of the orginal or use K5 PRO viscous thermal paste.

 

@bloodhawk my experience was when I ordered my KM1 with the 3000mhz and during the building process the retailer had issues booting so the retailer contacted me to let me know that the most stable option. Was the 2400mhz until prema bios is released.

 

IIRC with stock BIOS you should be able to run 2600-2800Mhz easily.
For 2800Mhz with good timing and above, you definitely need @Prema BIOS.
3200Mhz however is still a hit or miss from what i can tell.

 

You can get 3000mhz working but you have to ease it in while it trains the link, using slots 1 and 4 worked for me.

 

For me I just put the sticks in the slots under the keyboard and it booted up to 2400Mhz "default profile"

Then I just switched to XMP Profile 1, rebooted and it's been working fine since at the 3000mhz rated speed.

I think everyone's case is difference. It's really weird how much of a difference there is with the DM3/KM1, DM was perfectly fine if I recall correctly.

 

Yeap. Fox can easily boot with 2 x 3200Mhz sticks with custom timings, i however cant no matter what i do.

 

The memory controller will have some impact on the final clocks which is part of the silicon lottery.

 

The thing is, if we were to put our CPUs in a desktop board, I have no doubt they would work with 3600Mhz modules.

It seems to be something with the laptop boards. Also we don't even have 3600mhz so-dimms but we have 4266Mhz desktop dimms.

 

Actually yeah, the same processor im using in the DM3 right now, i ran it on a desktop board with 3600mhz Memory @ CL16 1.35V, without any issues.

 

SODIMM traces are tighter together and they can't be so nicely laid out.

 

so we have the answer its not so much as to IMC than is to ram. unless of course talking about an extremely poor imc inside a 7700k..

 

No it's more the traces on the motherboard so the more tolerant the ram and the better the IMC the better results you still get.

 

imc is on cpu though so i dont see how more tolerant ram would affect IMC

 

The IMC talks over the PCB traces to the memory, each part of that link makes a difference.

Imagine two people talking on phones, if either phone is naff or the connection in between you will limit the quality of the call as a whole.

 

i c so you're talking about the entire connection from imc, mobo pcb and to ram pcb then ram chip. i was just talking about imc on cpu not affected by bad ram and can replace the ram.

 

When talking about ram speed you have to take each part into account.

 

Hi!

So I have an N850HK1 (i7-7700HQ, GTX 1050 ti) that I've repasted with Kryonaut and am going to be repasting the CPU with Conductonaut once I get my hands on it (there seems to be a shortage, I can't find it anywhere in the 1 gram amount).

I've undervolted my CPU to 0.95v (or around it, it usually hovers around 0.98v) and it never hits above 78C atm, and my GPU never goes above 72C in long gaming sessions and benchmarks. I was wondering if there is any room for getting more performance out of the GPU and how to do that, like editing voltage curves or something?

 

@Scerate @Coolane

 

Try bumping the GPU frequency a bit using something like MSI afterburner and monitor your temperatures and clocks.

 

editing the voltage curve is the best thing you can do, but at first i would just simply use it on stock and look how stable your voltage is at certain temps/clocks, afterwards i would do the same with a simple offset, and how much it affects the core clock while still looking on how much the voltage flunctuates or if it even stays rocksolid. I'm using MSI Afterburner (latest beta) myself. Just unlock the Voltage monitoring in the options and use it with or without the OSD function (i used it).

 

Thought I would show the difference with the new "3x" drivers compared to the older drivers after AMD released Vega Frontier Edition and nVidia magically unlocked quadro level performance for the Titan X cards in pro apps.

Cinebench R15 OpenGL 384.94:



Cinebench R15 OpenGL 385.41:



SPECviewperf12 384.94:



SPECviewperf12 385.41:

 

Damn that SpecPerf difference!

 

Right?? To think nVidia was holding this much power back from the Titan X drivers.

Those results are with the internal display, I'll try external display sometime later, should be even higher.

 

I mean Quadro's are pretty much the exact same GPU's just using slightly different drivers. They just sell for a premium because nvidia hold the developers by the balls and that pressure eventually trickles downward.

 

Yeah I'm just glad AMD provided some pressure with Vega FE. I like how that card has a switch that changes the drivers from Radeon to Pro and vice versa.

Solidworks runs smoothly.


OG Titan had FP64 to differentiate it from the Ti GPUs, after that all other Titan's were just a tax on early adopters.

 

Those cards are for professional use and have extra driver development for it. It also helps subsidise the standard cards development.

 

No targuing there is driver development. But the same can be done for Ge-Force Cards. But the way Nvidia has made and setup things, its a nightmare in the professional world to get support unless you have a Quadro running, EVEN THOUGH a Geforce GPU performs better for your use.

 

Because that support is what you pay for when buying a quadro.

 

Exactly. When i dont even need a quadro, then why should i be forced to pay for it to get support for something doesnt even need a Quadro ?
And its not like Nvidia's driver support for Linux is top notch, i run into OpenGL issues almost every hour.

 

Geforce run professional apps, but the development to increase their speed and have specific optimisations is kept behind the quadro wall.

 

Isnt that the most obvious thing?

 

I think the point here is...people like @bloodhawk and me would like quadro level performance form our GeForce cards without paying the quadro price. We are fine without the support.

Why can't nVidia just unlock the full performance for GeForce cards with 0 support. People that actually need support can buy Quadros. They're blocking these optimization on GeForce cards on purpose.

Meanwhile AMD isn't doing the same, which is why we saw that huge bump I showed last page.

 

Yeap kinda.
But also the fact that we are forced to use Quadros even in scenarios where we dont need/want the quadros. For personal use its fine, but in professional work scenarios, that ends up costing us 100's of hours to waste time doing things using the Quadro's that would finish in half the duration using a GeForce GPU.

 

Having that performance is the support. They want their slice of your business pie everyone does the same thing though.

 

http://www.pcgamer.com/hackers-use-ccleaner-as-malware-host-affects-227-million-users/

Just a heads up here for you all here!

Since I know CC Cleaner is a popular program though I specifically swear it off as just automated what normal users can do so I never install it