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Corsair Launches DDR4 SODIMM 32GB Memory Kit Running at 4000 MHz

"While PC enthusiasts might be more familiar with SODIMM memory from laptops or all-in-one PCs, CORSAIR VENGEANCE SODIMM DDR4 4x8GB 4,000MHz is designed to power the latest small-form-factor systems running Intel's high-end-desktop X299 motherboard platform. Motherboards such as the ASRock X299E-ITX are able to fit all the power and performance of Intel's high-end motherboard chipset into a tiny Mini-ITX form factor but have, until now, been limited on memory frequency and bandwidth. With CORSAIR VENGEANCE SODIMM DDR4 4x8GB 4,000MHz, PC builders and enthusiasts can now pack 32GB of high-frequency quad-channel 4,000MHz DDR4 alongside Intel's Core i9 processors, for up to 36 threads of processing power and massive memory bandwidth, in Mini-ITX small-form-factor PCs."

 

So basically...

get those and use them at 3333MHz and low cl timings.

Got it.

 

And let's not forget Vivian of HIDEvolution. She was doing it a bit bigger with benching her MSI and my P870TM1 at the same time!.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/14404685



@Papusan
Or you could just start there. Corsair SoDimm DDR4 3800
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236299&Tpk=corsair sodimm

 

@thattechgirl_viv rocks.

That's some crazy expensive laptop RAM. Wonder if it will be as hit-or-miss as the Corsair and G.SKILL 3000/3200 have been, and how many laptops will refuse to even POST with XMP 3800 modules. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.

 

Yeah. Ain't no telling there.

 

What ram sticks is tested in your TM1 ? Got any feedback on how new Clevo and 8700K play with faster ram? Or too early in the process. Thanks

 

Running 3k Ripjaws at the moment. And they are 100% stable. (Or at least it seems that way. Will run memory testing later)

3200 Mhz.....not so much....

 

I wonder when we will see the new fast modules, hopefully at least at some point rather than vaporware.

 

Pretty soon. I have a set coming now. 3800's

 

I'll be interested to see how they do, do you still have the older systems to test against? Where did you get them from?

 

Nice! Let's us know if they're stable.

 

Yes, I still have my P870DM3.
Was going to get them from Corsair, but got them from newegg instead.

Thanks Brother @Trafficante .

We shall see. If they do not work, they are going right back!

Edit:
Meaning that they should be able to boot higher in the P870DM3 because that machine is prema modded up to 4133. so anything 3333 and above is welcome. 3200 and lower is not.

 

Let me know if you get something like 3600MHz 15-16-16-36 working. Push that 1T let's gooo

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/3734260_papusan_wprime___32m_core_i7_7700k_4sec_4ms?recalculate=true


http://hwbot.org/submission/3734263....5_core_i7_7700k_12.4_points?recalculate=true


http://hwbot.org/submission/3734264_papusan_cinebench___r15_core_i7_7700k_1125_cb

 

Are you able to run that with your ram? @ 3000 Mhz?

 

I wish. XMP doesn't work for me. Even if I turn it on then just set it to 2400MHz (its default speed) it won't boot. Left it to its own devices for 3 hours. Nada. I would love if I could get 3000 cl15 running

Sent from my OnePlus 1 using a coconut

 

Yeah RAM is always a bit hit and miss. I can remove the firmware limitations, but even then Fox and I had identical systems (part numbers) and his 3200 RAM needed entirely different XMP settings than mine in order to run stable.

@Johnksss awesome system, awesome brand > Have fun!

Welcome back to the game brother! premamod hwbot team invite sent

 

@Prema what do I need to do for Eurocom to become a partner? You need a rep north of the border.

I would consider becoming a Clevo reseller myself. Been looking at viable business opportunities, but hardware is capital intensive and tech moves fast.

Boutique laptops are pretty niche and our market here in Canada is even smaller. No wonder there isn't really any Canadian competition to Origin/HID. Eurocom is close, but I think they could do allot better with more contemporary marketing.

 

This should be interesting....

Does it at least boot 1 stick?

 

you upgrading to 870TM's CPU heatsink? it should fit imho.

is there some trick to it that if it boots with 1 then other 3 just need a bit of work?

 

@ole!!!
Something like that. It seems that sometimes you need to find the right slot to start the booting cycle.

Then you can add them one at a time till you get all four booted. Once done, then it should be able to boot normally from that point on. (speculations of course)(And that's with using a P870DM3 - Not sure about others)

Also 8GB (Ripjaws) chips are far easier to get up and running over 16GB (Ripjaws) chips. A Lot of systems will not boot with 2 3200 Mhz 16GB (Ripjaws) chips. They need 4. ( More of an observation than a statement of fact)

Other news. It looks like it's able to do 3333 Mhz, but not 3800 Mhz
And no, do not ask me if it's stable.

 

Ok, so they tested windows stable for the time being...
3333 Mhz


3460 Mhz

 

Corsair 3460 Mhz Potentially Stable...

Edit:
This is a factory bios. Only thing used was what's in the stock bios.
No TB flashing either.
And no I did not attempt to tinker yet. Just used the factory settings for [email protected] and let it go.

 

What are the actual chips on there?

 

im gonna have a hard time hitting even 2800 with 64gb

btw, any throttling atm on cpu OC? prema hasnt released a bios for 870tm yet right

 

Not sure. I just open the package and threw all 4 sticks in the laptop. I wanted to see if it was going to actually boot without Mickey mousing around with it. Which it did do. Then I tried to set XMP and boot which it failed after about 10 minutes. Eventually I'll let it run longer and see what happens. I just didn't have the time to do it right now.

Yes, there is some throttling on stock bios, but it would be considered very manageable. 4.9 ghz can be had without throttling. And in half the other cases....So can 5.0 Ghz on Stock bios and no SL Chip either.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

 

@ole!!!
Here you go.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/14424900
4.9 Ghz - 1080N SLI 2101/5604 - 3460 Mhz Memory

 

wow thats great news tbh. i use avx and avx2, i dislike cpu in the 90s so i had plans to turn off HT and just run 6cores/6threads. HT would prob reduce additional power consumption so that would mean i'll almost never throttle.

unless the throttling you're talkign about was due to heat which disabling HT also helps.

 

No, it was due to incorrect voltage.

So. If you can keep your temps in check, then you can run pretty much anything up to 4.9 GHz on lets say....Most Retail chips.

 

i picked up a 5.2 8700k from SL this afternoon, there are still 5.2 8700k on sale right now and some 5.3 8600k, needed the extra L3 cache sadly. can't wait to run this at 5ghz in laptop.

 

I picked up a retail and it does 5ghz. It will do more once the bios is unlocked i gather.

https://valid.x86.fr/t1ngq8

 

Congratulations on your Silicon Lottery 5.2ghz 8700k CPU, and it looks like they are still in stock!!

 

impressive work @Johnksss that beast is pretty brutal wanted to get my ram too to 3200 but work is eating me up sadly

 

The stock BIOS does usually let you get a pretty reasonable speed usually, tweaking it just takes you further. Nice to see the basic level be that high though.

 

Hmm great scores. I will try to chalange you with my 3000 Corsair set in time

Hmm great. I will join RAM Oc with my 3000 MHz in time (now thanks to P6 buggy firmware i can't get them running past 2666)...

 

Do you have any Laptop cooling pad or any mods? I struggle to get past 4.7 with my 7700k.. these laptops struggle with temps on stock cooling from my experience.

 

You gets no arguments out of me about that. With the right cooling and settings I can get 5.0 Ghz out of this bios and stable 4.9 Ghz on all benching. Does it throttle or "slow down"? Every so often, but not enough for me to go make a big deal over it. Is there room to grow? I'm going to say...Yes! As to how much....Don't know yet.

And yes, it was pretty damn good to see the bios was able to do that. Because frankly, I was more than a bit surprised. Thought it was going to be another P870DM3 fiasco with Ram.

So try just one..... That's what I do when I get stuck.

My 7700K is delidded and I use the right amount of volts for my 4.7 Ghz. Which basically is a serious undervolt.

Thanks. 3200 seems hit or miss as mention by Brother Fox. Not exactly sure why though.

 

With stock firmware we see about the same 4.9Ghz as with 7700K and the P870DM3/KM1 in 3DMark (FS) before hitting the artificial throttle wall (with proper undervolt, cooling and in non CPU heavy benches. For things like Cinebench or wPrime 4.6Ghz is roughly the limit), BUT this round user get two more cores out of it. So at least they adjusted the firmware enough to accommodate the 8700K and didn't make things worse. Better thinking than expected by our beloved ODM...
The board working with the new 3800Mhz RAM at least up to 3400Mhz, came as a real surprise.
Looks like the KBL-Refresh gave us something else to play with other than more cores.

Done with stock, let's start cooking up a nice little Christmas Dinner, shall we...

 

looks like clevos done a much better job this time. much better if they can make a brand new laptop with 4 fans next time along with 8 cores tho.

 

stupid question here from me but anybody knows how to set the cache ratio to x41? I already set it in bios but i have to manually do it everytime via Throttlestop to stay at my desired x41 which is normally the default value for 6700k(?), the only way it works with bios is to set Min and Max cache freq to x41 which causes the CPU to not clock down with speedstep.

+ Elite Dangerous is a pretty demanding game too i noticed, my CPU throttles to 4000-4100Mhz while docking in a station, HWINFO64 is displaying PL4 as reason, i think i get some flashbacks from my P771DM i had

 

I don't remember if it's the same as for 7700K. But take a look on post #9139.

More of the same...
Corsair Launches Vengeance 32 GB Quad-Channel DDR4-4000 SO-DIMM Kit for $595 - Anandtech.com
" The new DDR4-4000 SO-DIMM kit for the X299 platform can increase memory bandwidth by 5% to 128 GB/s when compared to the DDR4-3800 kit, which is hardly signigicant, but DDR4-4000 is an important milestone in general, if only for bragging rights. Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised to see G.Skill and possibly other suppliers of high-end memory modules to introduce their own DDR4-4000 SO-DIMM kits in the future."

 

I had thought about testing them, but if these can't do 3800....then that may be a moot point. Unless they do 1 step higher than these. 3600 Mhz

 

Yeees and they ain't cheap. But your 3600 Mhz speed is already a huge step up vs. what we had before. The litmus test is if all or most can run same speed without too much trouble on new Clevo's

 

My heart is ready, my pockets aren't...

 

3460 Mhz is max stable so far. I have not worked past that yet. And that right there is a HUGE improvement over super sketchy 3200 Mhz Ripjaws where you have to do everything under the sun then bend over backward to get them to run a few test correctly. Then they crash and it's all over. Errors all over the place.

 

And don't forget all those who have problem passing 3000MHz At least it go the right direction

 

Hmz for the corsair modules:

4000mhz 19-23-23-45
3800mhz 18-19-19-39

I don't think the large increases in latency are worth it even in memory intensive tasks.

 

Prema Bios Testing...

Some testing to verify if extreme conditions are met..... No Throttling. Will revert to normal condition testing later today.
1.52V is considered max. And the motherboard did not blow up. Nor did the chip blow up either. So we are setting that record straight on that now.

No going for records, only testing where the max may be....
5.0 Ghz

4.9 Ghz

 

Very nice as usual John

 

185w for 50x. What's up ? Wrong reading of sensors? Checked power with you UPS ?