Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

Look at how old the version he is using....

 

ohhhh nice catch man

 

CDM takes peak results, versions within cdm dont really matter that much. biggest difference is what phoenix mentioned the stripe size, and also i use 100MB not 1GiB in my test. smaller stripe size usually better for OS environment but also hurt sequential performance, unless people are playing a lot of game loading/ video editing with sequential performance.

OS native block size for sequential is 128kb (different from stripe) and any file thats bigger block size than 128kb, say example block size of 1MB is broken down into 8 of 128kb, which loads at sequential performance at queue depth of 8. since I am doing raid, of almost any stripe size I am likely to hit DMI 3.0 x4 limit with sequential performance, so imho it's better to lower stripe size for OS with lots of smaller files but at the same time, sequential read/writes at high queue depth don't matter as they all hitting top speed at any stripe size. (this has not been confirmed by any reviewer, just my own speculation).

finally, im using server 2012, has a bit better storage performance, server 2008/2008 r2 has the best, just like window 7 better than 8/10 in terms of benchmark.

 

ok so you mean to say that the concept which MSI tech support told me is not very accurate and you recommend me to re-do my RAID Array in a 16K Stripe Size for more snappiness?

 

Latest CrystalDiskMark v6.0.0

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they go by generally what they are told, either from intel rep, or storage reviewers. its basically the concept and how you are going to use it. like what i mentioned, because I am doing raid 0, sequential performance will likely hit DMI cap regardless of stripe size, yes bigger ones like 128k will get better performance but difference maybe only in like 100MB/s out of 3300-3500MB/s thats ~3%,

mean while with smaller stripe size AND raid 0, will have a bit of penalty on QD1 sequential performance of that 100MB/s 3% as an example. the 4k performance increase for OS enviroment shoots up from around 55MB/s to like 65+ MB/s in my case, though only 10+ MB/s it is a jump of more than 15%. also note the original picture i did a bunch of things, disable cstate in TS/Bios, then make sure OS doesnt control clock so cstate off is effective, then disable bios ASPM.

 

Yeah, that benchmark was mine from early last year some time. I do not have raid 0 running at this time.

Edit:
Make that late 2016.

 

seeing how higher version CDM gets higher score i wonder if they improved coding thus improve overall latency to test. biggest difference though is sequential. CDM 3.0.1 sequential I have no idea how many threads other than it is probably at QD1, or even QD4. while in CDM 6 its QD32 1 thread, kinda unrealistic. i'd test sequential at QD2-8, but as explained before they all pretty much max out because of raid at any stripe past 16k+

 

Now, this is not done on a Clevo, but rather a mini-ITX board, but numbers are numbers and it is sometimes nice to have a comparison - http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/intel-optane-900p-ssd.810226/page-7#post-10657782

 

21 240 in Firestrike. I beat @Mr. Fox lowest score. https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14603923

I'm now hitting 'VR Current' and 'EDP Other' limits in throttlestop when I try to go 5.1Ghz on all 6 cores. Also when I try to set a static core/cache voltage, my clocks drop and I can't get them stable. No temperature problems at all, I'm either being limited by the silicon or just 1 330w power brick.

 

No, you're being limited by Clevo cancer firmware. Without @Prema firmware mods, there is no cure for the disease. It is cancer by design and intent. Say, "Thank you, Clevo." But, to be fair and accurate all of the OEMs provide a steady stream of products that are castrated by cancerous firmware. As you can see, having unlocked menus doesn't do squat for the issue. The KM1 and TM1 are both throttling abortions with stock firmware.

 

Guess I will have to figure out a way to get the @Prema goodness once its released. Since Eurocom dropped that ball hard.

Been wanting to step into BIOS/Firmware programming myself, I'm a total noob in assembly and a novice in C. I like tinkering with hardware so and been looking for a little professional inspiration. Going hard into C++ right now with ds and algos. Next semester I'm diving into threading and working with CUDA Thinking of doing some passion AR projects. I got gifted a Raspberry Pi 3 for the holidays and I need to crack open my Audrino. Everything is pretty daunting in the beginning at least I have troubleshooting skills.

I know @Prema is totally busy, but if anyone who is into programming wants to offer a little mentorship it would be kindly appreciated. Drop me a PM.

 

Is your gpu still locked? Nevermind, it looks to be unlocked.
And your 5.0 ghz isn't even running optimal either. So start there before getting to 5.1 ghz. And 5.1 might be a stretch to some degree, but time will tell.

This is on a stock bios with unlocked GPU.
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14406640

 

the only way he'll be alright with a 5.1 would be if he picked up a 5.3 sample from SL maybe @Jumpwired can share something about his chip. also i find the real limiting factor would be temperature, assuming voltage/current throttling is already taken care of and its well under 1.3v.

without benching on AC and sub zero winter temps, cpu at 5ghz under stress is hitting close to 85C with room temp of only 23C, and this is with a SL 5.2 sample.

 

You can't compare a P7 to a P8 result.
The P7 has it's limits set for single GPU while the P8 only hits the wall in SLI.

What is new this round is that they now also make the CPU throttle without any GPU load at all. Under heavy CPU load (rendering, encoding, cinebench etc...) you won't see a lot more than 4.7Ghz sustained.

That all being on stock firmware of course.

 

Stock vBios. OC'D to about +185/+722. I completely missed the fact that I can set VR limits in my BIOS last night.

Wish I could afford that good life purchasing SL binned CPU's. <1.3v @ 4.1 --

Sure is frosty outside, nice influx of high benchmarks during the winter. Everyone should make sure to layer up.

Figured the P7 had harder limits. Looking forward to seeing what can be done with some of your love

May I ask what your voltage and VR limit is set to? Out of curiosity.

 

@Jumpwired
Then you need to lower that till it no longer throttles the gpu.
And my settings will not work for you because you don't have the same settings exposed in your bios or your EC is as loose as mine.

 

Sorry lower what? My GPU isn't throttling.

Fair enough. My intentions where never really to copy them as we don't have identical laptops.

 

Interesting.

Good luck with your laptop.

 

I dunno, I think this is pretty good for a 5 year old chassis?

This is the kind of crazy that Clevo is capable of when un-nerfed by Prema.

GPUs actually boost curve limited to 1975mhz/0.975W/180W power limit/2275mhz memory; MSI Afterburner auto-2D profile switching stuffed up the GPUz readings

 

^ Oh hey your 1070 SLI scores about as much as the Acer Predator 21X

In overclock mode

No really I'm not kidding:


Your two 1070s and a 3940XM are matching or beating a $9000 7820HK/1080 SLI unit

 

and people saying that BGA is acceptable

those people are either shills or mentally disabled

 

Ignorance is bliss, but a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Paying $9,000 for any laptop, especially a BGA turdbook, is compelling evidence of being brain-dead.

 

That 9K is better used on self-euthanization

 

Or, two maxed out P870s... or, a insane desktop with the best of everything in it and money left over.

 

Or ONE high end desktop...

 

A very crazy high end desktop with a LOT of money left over... which could be used to go nuts with custom liquid cooling with water chiller, and still have some extra left over.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DdZhsJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DdZhsJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i9-7980XE 2.6GHz 18-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($1963.35 @ Newegg Marketplace)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake - Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition 42.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME EATX LGA2066 Motherboard ($649.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-4200 Memory ($203.99 @ Newegg)
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Storage: Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($297.99 @ B&H)
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You do know this is what desktop owners have been saying all along right? LOL

We just need to accept the "Predator gone astray" laptop and just never mention it. Why? Because it's the first time in life that Desktop users are right!

 

Of course they have, because it's accurate. And, yes... it's all about how utterly idiotic the Predator is. I didn't mind paying absurd prices for high end laptops when I needed them. High end is never cheap. Paying absurd prices for a ridiculous pile of trash (Predator) is just stupid.

Edit: And, we all know that there are whole lot more retarded desktop owners than there are laptop owners that own true high end laptops with desktop CPUs and MXM cards. I can't say anything positive about the 'high end' turdbook owners. They give us all a bad name. Predator is just an extra-extreme example of stupidity gone wild.

 

Predator is a fitting name, because the only people it preys on, are those with more money than brains.

 

If I had to go all out it'd probably be something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9R86vV

Also, there'd be another GPU added to run the three extra monitors. PCPP doesn't let me add a third GPU for any reason without clearing the first two, but a third does need to be there.

 

It would be awesome if money was never an issue. Most of us will never know what that feels like.

Speaking of money, I just got a sweet deal on this...

 

THAT is a good deal, that's even cheaper than a 512GB 850 Pro.

 

The SM961 1TB can be had for a good price round here too rather than getting a retail unit.

 

Some are just never missing a chance to become part of the problem:
I heard the Acer Predator goes very well with a pair of yeezys, a supreme x louis vuitton hoodie and a gucci ring...perfect bundle to represent your superior brainwash status to the world.

 

Don't forget the grillz, LOL. Perfect compliment for the tackiest-looking laptop ever made.

 

How the hell did you find a price that good for a 960 pro? Wow...nice!

And @Mr. Fox @Prema @Papusan im sorry for being part of the problem i didn't do it on PURPOSE.......

 

$9,000 ? +$11,000 here home And with a single NVMe ssd/HDD. Maybe the only hardware worth to have in this tragedy

Make wrong choices is one thing... But learn from them is another matter https://lifehacker.com/how-to-learn-from-your-mistakes

 

At least for 30k You get some Diamonds and gold.

 

Yeah, I've been keeping an eye open and most of them on eBay are way overpriced. Retail price is absolutely stupid. Been wanting another one since I got the first 960 Pro, but I refuse to pay the asinine normal price for them... they're just not worth what they normally sell for, IMHO.

Once in a while I would do a Google shopping search for it and it came up in the list. I had never heard of the place where it was listed before. Of course, the links don't ever work for Google shopping. Always get the " This site can’t be reached. www.googleadservices.com’s server IP address could not be found. Try running Windows Network Diagnostics. DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN" error trying to use those links, but I went to the web site in the list and there it was.

We forgive you, Brother @Falkentyne. We all make mistakes, bruh. Live and learn.

Just don't let it happen again.

 

I have tried long time to learn bro @Falkentyne how to....


I'm sure he have listened If he still come back with a new TURD... I will try once again. But harder

 

24 carat gold clevo prema edition when?

 

Sponsored by Phoenix and available in Limited Edition of 12 units worldwide.

 

Finally got a Cinebench score under Windows 10 that beat my highest Windows 7 (just barely) by using a lot more voltage than I normally do.

Cinebench R11.5 - http://hwbot.org/submission/3755208_

 

Great score.
100% Without Micro$haft's latest patch How much more Voltage was needed?

 

Roughly 100mV (0.100V) more. Increased VID from around 1.265V to 1.365V.​

So, I guess that means that now I am going to have to try using the same amount of extra voltage under Windows 7 to see if I can beat my best Windows 10 score. I don't ever like it when I create an isolated example of an inferior OS like Windows 10 doing anything better than Windows 7.

 

Are you using RS3 of Win 10 Pro for Workstation or standard W10 Pro?

 

A trial run of RS3 Pro for Workstations. This is the third trial. The previous two (standard W10 Pro) were abject failures. Compared to W10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB Pro for Workstations is still a pretty buggy and unstable product, but not to the extent the first two trials of RS3 proved to be. I still get various glitches and random BSOD that never happen under W7 or W10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB. The only reason I was willing to try a third time was Big Muscle released a fully functional version of AeroGlass for RS3. W10 is too damned ugly to tolerate without it.