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    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    here's the trick, I was getting a few points lower than you no matter how many times I tried and even disabled Avira Antivirus Pro.

    Then I rebooted, let the system sit idle for 3 minutes then started the bench without anything else running and not even moving the mouse.

    Try that

    We have the same RAM / same overclock so we should get very similar results unless it's any background task running

    I disabled Windows Error Reporting/System Restore/ and Program Compatibility Assistant Service as well
     
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    1) Run an AIDA64 Extreme Stress Test for 3 mins then post a screenshot of it and hwinfo side by side to see if the temps are lower

    2) show me that 0 offset in hwinfo I am not sure I follow, take a screenshot of it
     
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    Ima go to 4.6 just to see how it does after this encoding is done in about 4 hours :D
     
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    good idea :D

    I am going to 4.6 GHz now with a -20mV to see how it goes
     
  5. zacwhite15

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    ya, i checked it and its still the same temps. here is a link to the aida report if you look in there it lists the offset as 0mv: http://dumptext.com/Tyx4uMH6
     
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    You must be missing something from the tutorial or the pictures
     
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    how can I check mine to tell you if it's the same or not?

    Also, what version of the Prema BIOS are you running? Mine is 1.05.03 Prema v1.5


    PS: duuuuuuuude

    there is an option that I used to always miss, in the overclocking performance menu, make sure it is enabled as it is disabled by default:

    2.jpg


    If it's disabled, then anything you do will not take effect
     
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    Did you get the latest drivers from my
    Clevo P870DM/DM-G Drivers Mirror

    It is vital that you update the WLAN driver manually by downloading the zip file and manually updating it from device manager
     
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    I have not.. downloading now.

    Are those only for win 10? im on 7 pro.
    Do i need all those anyways?
     
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    Max out the voltage and run 3DMark 11 Test 1 and see how it does. If that crashes, start backing off of the 200MHz on core as see where it ends up stable. Once you find stability, then start backing down on the voltage until it becomes unstable, then go back up a bit. 1500MHz Core, 2000MHz Memory is about my max overclock with 980.
     
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    ok, so the overclocking feature wasn't enabled. doh. so i went in and fixed that. im still hitting 90C temps on the stress test. where as when i was doing it in XTU i was peaking out at 75-80C. so im really confused.
     
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    my system wont even go over 1.6Ghz when its on battery. this is really weird.
     
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    Win 10 some are for Windows 7 like IRST and Chipset and IME
     
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    I will help you over Skype soon wait for a PM
     
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    Dont think i need those updates. I tried the ethernet controllers driver and it says its up to date
     
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    Try decreasing uncore by -30mV
     
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    ok, skype or google chat will work. ill be heading home in a bit. was at my fam's having birthday cake. :D
     
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    Is there something I've overlooked? Dump shows i7-6700HQ. How can he use OC settings in bios even with Prema bios? After what I have understood can not 6700Hq be overclocked. Why not make it easy. Fire up Throttlestop and under volt there and test bench again? With Throttlestop you can test different voltage settings on the fly.

    Ps. @Phoenix how it go with OC graphics?
     
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    damn your oc'd all the way to 4.8.... your temps dont go haywire?
     
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    i can't overclock (unless i want to BCLK overclock), but i can make changes to the voltage offset to lower temps. those aren't locked. i actually started to see some results after i reinstalled windows. so somehow, not quite sure how, but i think XTU was really messing with it even after uninstalling it.
    right now im just trying to figure out why my system is defaulting to max max clock of 1.6Ghz on battery. im sure its something in the bios settings that i missed. cause i have everything in windows set to max performance.
     
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    Temp is ok compared to the OC settings. I'm the snowman as @Phoenix says, LOL
    See cpu/gpu temp in Firestrike bench below
    upload_2016-4-22_4-18-54.png
     
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    What about the CC panel. You use performance settings there?
     
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    ya, even setting it for performance mode it kicks it back to 1.6. come to think of it, i have control center opened and i unplugged my system and when it does that it kicks it back to balanced and greys out performance mode under power conserve. which is what is kicking me back to 1.6...... is anyone else experiencing that? btw i did a fresh install earlier just to see if it was win itself causing the issue.
     
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    I don't use my machine on battery. I don't like it :D. And I don't know your machine. But maybe put Performance settings in CC, Fire up Autoruns.Exe and disable CC there . Reboot and try again. Or even try Throttlestop.
     
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    thats a good idea, didn't think of that.
     
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    Worth a shot :)
     
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    what about with cinebench. can you run it and run hwinfo to see the temps?
     
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    ya,i tried both but it didn't help. anytime i disconnect the power it drops to 1.6ghz....... :( kinda wonder if i might need to reach out to sager about this. cause for me its going to be a problem.
     
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    Normally I bench always without any extra processes running... But a shot of Throttlestop running in the background of Cinebench 11.5 Ps. Not my best score but still ok :D
    upload_2016-4-22_4-42-41.png
     
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    oh I didn't realize he didn't have a 6700K. OC = not good :rolleyes:
     
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    I had that issue with my previous Clevo P870DM-G on stock BIOS. Then once I used the Prema BIOS and increased power limits and Turbo Power Max to the max allowed, then also set the min CPU State in Advanced Power Management in Windows to 100% for both plugged in and battery, that throttling stopped
     
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    Yeah, I'm getting old. But I can still see, hear and have some memory left, LOL
     
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    phoenix, will you PM me?
     
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    I wonder if them temps would spike all the way up if you encode a movie or something ... because im delided and only at 4.5 and its hitting max temp of 86degrees. Im afraid if I go higher those temps are going to go even higher.
     
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    Whats the wattage of the battry?
    Turbos drop because the max wattage is being limited?
     
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    Try Wprime 1024M stress test and see what temp an score you get with your overclock(select 8 threads in advanced settings) Hwbot version 1.55 http://hwbot.org/benchmarks/
     
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    Do you have CLU on the die? And which TIM on the IHS, a few of have had this issue of the heatsink not making properly even contact. I fixed it by shimming down the heatsink and lapping my processor IHS.
    My max temps at 4.8Ghz with cinebench were, top 78-80C, and this was on a hot day here.
    I have CLU on the DIE, and Kryonaut on the IHS.
     
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    Screenshot of the FIVR section please. Thank you.
     
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    I have the silliconvaley delided 4.8cpu and it has ic diamond outside... what config you have on that 4.8?
     
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    Its my self delidded one. I think i was running override voltage with a 1415 Turbo and a +63 PLL Offset.
    Also my ring max stays at 42 with a -150 Offset, helps with thermals a lot.
     
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    I can say so much that @Mr. Fox has tried them, but with much difficulty. They are still under testing but work very well for me. I will not post them right now.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    why are you down to 4.6 now?
     
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    Probably for the same reason as you. Lower temp ;)
     
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    Because my processor hits a wall after 4.6Ghz, it needs way more voltage to bypass that.
    Like my processor can do 4.6 with an offset of -75 but in order to go to 4.7 even -25 to +25 doesn't cut it.
    This is true with almost every chip, as they hit a certain "comfort" wall. After which they need a strong push. For water cooling it doesn't matter much for delidded processors, but since we are limited to standard cooling ,gotta watch those temps for 24/7 use.
    Also check how your heat sink is making contact with the IHS. If possible take the heatsink off and post a picture. I have a feeling it's not even.
     
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    PM me bebe ?
    I'll give it a shot next week once I get my GPU back. But don't break my heart by saying no. </3
     
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    I became almost soft now :). But you'll have to wait. I don't want that you can't boot your machine or get massive throttling :D
     
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    [​IMG]

    Dont worry about my machine. Its been to hell and back and back to hell and back.
     
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    damn i got BSOD.. i tried going to 4.6 with -30 on processor ring and uncore.... any ideas guys? i left ring min and max at 0 just change the V to -30
     
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    I expected some tears that rolled down from your eyes on the picture of you :p

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    @Terrablade Run stock voltage with under voltage + higher OC on your processor may not be the right medicine. Try stock voltage.
     
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