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Here you go. Complete kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232170

The exact same kit as mine (went to my order history on newegg). I tested each 16GB RAM stick individually at a point in time and also in conjunction with 2133MHz samsung 8GB DDR4 so I'm sure they'll work with different capacity/speed RAM if that's what you're asking.

 

Thanks for the data point ... that's good to hear.

@Akaraah is using G.Skill 2666MHz, and I'm worried that at that speed there could be a greater potential for problems if the sticks aren't tested together.

 

I like these more:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...=64gb_2800_mhz_so-dimm-_-20-232-172-_-Product

 

Go for it!

There's a guy on the thread I linked who went for 2800MHz (just a few posts down from mine) and they seem to work fine.

As for me? I'm pretty content with my 2666MHz RAM.

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Just out of curiosity ... besides the ability to overclock, is there any advantage to a processor that's able to hit 4.7GHz compared to one that maxes out at 4.2GHz? For example, (assuming no overclocking is involved) will, in general, the 4.7 chip run cooler, be more reliable, or ?

 

Not really. More of a bragging factor at that point. Its really what you can get away with on stock voltage and cooling. Nobody cares if you're gaming at 4.7 ghz/ 4k screen/ 2800 mhz memory/ 2 951's in raid 0 and dual 980m's or 980's.....if you can't kill anyone in online gaming. Besides...most will get tired of hearing about it after the first few times you mention it. And then give the you spent to much speech.

Best to be happy with 4.2 ghz and anything above that is a personal bonus.

Running high over clocks is base on that days conditions.... Some days it runs cool while others it will be hotter...Reliability is in the eye of the beholder. (Based on what you do personally)

 

So...getting back to my first few questions for those of you with Prema Bios...what's the procedure for overclocking the RAM within the bios (for a beginner like myself)? My RAM being clocked at 2666MHz and the timings being 18-18-18-43, what variables do I need to manipulate to get to 2800MHz? Anyone able to take a photo or give me some insight, please?
Also, proper/ideal voltage for 980m SLI to prevent crashing. Thanks all.

 

Umm, it does help if you are into 3D rendering and effects .

 

Nice, getting close to breaking 3000mhz

Full List of g.skill DDR4 kits, 3 pages
http://www.gskill.com/en/finder?cat=33&series=2678&p=1

 

I'm trying to justify purchasing one of Silicon Lottery's binned CPU ... and you're not helping

I'm in the process of putting together a configuration for a P870DM. For the near term (whatever that means), 4.2GHz will be more than enough ... but, down the road, I plan on doing some work that'll be computationally intensive; and, at that point, having a processor that could be overclocked would be good. So, if I thought that there'd be an advantage (even a little one) to purchasing a binned CPU from the get go; well, then I could more easily justify the purchase to myself. In other words, I know the outcome I'd like, now I'm just looking for the evidence to support it.

 

Don't listen to @johnksss, he's only trying to thin the herd of potential rivals.

Get in the running for top performance - and push for the fastest parts, and then tune the heck out of it, spending hours and hours, for days and days, month after month, until you finally get, and keep, the top score - just like johnkss

Spoiler

 

+1, this is a war, you think people here will tell you to get a Silicon Lottery CPU and possibly beat them?

Think of it this way, consider yourself blessed for having a laptop that can even accept a desktop class CPU and go for the silicon lottery!

 

Well I got mine to 4.4Ghz. On the stock bios. Trying to go any higher crashes my system, I'm gonna stick at 4.4 until i get premas modded bios.

 

just get it brah and sell the stock 6700K or keep it as a backup if you have extra cash.

 

Just change the XMP profile to 9 for 2400 MHz or 8 for 2666 Mh or 7 for 2800 MHz

 

Thanks! Will give it a try once I get home (about to head out from work atm). Will share the results with everyone once I've tried it out (stability, etc.)...

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Okey, dokey, SOLD!

The nice thing is that I won't have to purchase a stock 6700K from the reseller. If I purchase a binned CPU, they'll install it ... but I'm not naive enough to think there won't be some charge involved, since they will test it in the system.

 

that's fine, no loss anyway. plus, whatever the benefit of a Silicon Lottery is, it is way better than a stock 1. I've had 2 diff. systems now, the previous Clevo P870DM-G and now the Sky X9 both with sucky 6700K that can barely reach 4.2 GHz on all cores, don't take chances with the stock ones.

Afterall, you are an enthusiast buying an enthusiast system, give it a treat with a good CPU

 

Apparently I am the few who actually have a decent 6700k from stock.

 

yes, it's a 50-50% chance and you were one of those whom the Silicon angels love!

Had I had known about Silicon Lottery before, I would've never taken a chance

 

I was able to OC my stock samsung ram to 2800 (100*14) without changing any timing.
I've tested my ram using TM5 several times and no error yet.
I will test more with this clock and timing.

 

Play a game that's where my issues started with FPS dipping to 5 FPS after a few mins of game play

 

I'm not helping huh. LOL
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=1680v2&tbm=shop
That is the average price of a retail binned chip.
In your case, buy it, but just remember....having a great cpu and knowing how to make it work....Are two entirely different things. I thought you would have seen that in this thread already with who bought binned vs non binned. Unlocked vs non unlocked bios. User vs user.

I only do that for scoring on the bot. Once done, it's back to stock for me.

And last but not least... I'm an over clocker. You can tell that by my world ranking in my sig. And you still see my name on a few benchmarks when click on the search page for 3dmark.


Edit:

You guys are killing me with this bin a 6700k cpu stuff. LOL
I'm going to give you guys in the states some game on this....

If you have a frys or better yet, a microcenter in your area, go buy you a few cpus. Test them to see which one is best and take the rest back. Go look up the numbers from some of the best overclockers around the world binning this cpu and find what you need to find on the side of the box. this is a desktop cpu not a mobile cpu. There is usually a 15 day grace period before purchase of said cpu if final.

And there are plenty of videos on how to delid.

 

The games I play are WoW, Diablo3 and LOL. And no issue yet. I will post if I experience any issue.
Have you tested your ram OC stability by any program such as TM5?

 

Hey @Phoenix. I tried doing the XMP method but am at a loss. Here's what I see:

An image of the default page for memory.

I'm able to pull this box up but am only able to customize the "custom profile". Don't know how to save one as an XMP profile because when I click on one the XMP profiles I am unable to edit it.
With custom profile picked I'm able to edit values, though.


And by changing the value to 7 do you mean the memory ratio in the bios or tWR? Am I looking for the wrong option?

 

Mind sharing your settings please and how you did it? Still a newb.

 

The SI stuff is worth it for maybe 5960x when they used to offer the higher binned chips(which they dont anymore). I believe they had a 4.8ghz 5960x line and maybe that was worth it...

Exactly what john said. Check your steppings and manufacturing locations. Although I believe steppings matters less in modern CPUs than in the old days...

And also, SI literally states 18% of all 6700k hits 4.8ghz under the voltage they are using. Its cheaper to buy 5, bin it yourself and take the restocking fee....

As long as it isnt against any store policies, check first!

Honestly, buying binned 6700k isnt necessarily the best of ideas. The voltage SI test their chips on is not applicable anyways. As for delidding, might as well as get a delidmate or just do it via razer.

Listen to John, that guy have more experience with this than all of us combined...

Edit: SI is good for those who dont want to deal with chip binning or anything and just want a guaranteed good/semi-decent CPU. However you are paying a premium for it.

 

Thanks.

I just don't want to see people jump at things that may not really be needed. I have thrown allot of money at top of the line to only find out that it's not always true. And I could have saved at that point and put money to something that would have been better benefited from.
Example: This 980 TI I bought to test against a Kingpin Classy. Guess what. this 74% card is bench able at 1600/4100 on air. and there are guys that can't get past 1520/4000 on water with a KPE and a better asic score.....

 

Honestly, I think all GM200s hits the wall at around 1500ish on air/water, the ASIC thing EVGA was doing is quite strange and probably only matters for LN2. 8ghz is about the limits of GDDR5 anyways so I doubt there is card that go too much over that. Most decent 980 ti(G1 gaming, etc) can usually hit 1500mhz so I honestly didnt see a huge point with the 80% ASIC card when a 72% ASIC will probably match it on air/water.

Honestly if I am buying a 980 ti, I would go for the basic KPE since its likely to cap out at 1500ish core anyways. I do want the power delivery though since GM200 overclocked at constant load hits about 400-500w I believe....

SI may make sense for people like @Phoenix who cant go to a store and ask to see the chips. For Americans who have access to stupidly cheap Fry's/Microcenter deals, not really. Seriously, some of the deals are insane. Like I heard of 3770k for $250ish when that was still the top quad core...

 

@Akaraah

For memory OC, there are several methods.

If you want to use XMP method, you need to get a ram with pre-profiled ram or you have to edit XMP profile yourself. Taiphoon burner is a XMP profile editor utility.

But in this case, you really dont need to use XMP because Prema has done very nice job. You can just use custom profile.

133 * 10 = 1333
dual channel so your ram is now 2666 speed.
If you want it 2800, make the number 100 * 14 = 1400
So you have to set 133 -> 100 and 10 -> 14.
If it doens not work or boot, you have to adjust the ram timing.
And you must test your OCed ram by memory stability program such as TM5 or you can end up with BSOD or crash.

 

50% chance to get a decent i7-6700K is maybe a little high?

Spoiler: The top 18% of tested 6700Ks

 

Yep. I was all over those 2600k's (269.00/3770k's 299.99 /4770k's.299.00) like 5 at a time. lol. That was far better than 1100.00 a chip!! (3960X/4960X/980X/5960X/1680

Don't get me wrong, would love to have a kpe classified from my team captain, but when i went looking for some, they were no where to be found. lol. Although I think I could fetch a pretty good price over retail for this card in it's current state.

To be honest...allot of this stuff is base on what the user knows....

I have taken parts that people have deemed junk clockers and found out that it was just user error. That also happen to me. Thought a 4770k was junk and come to find out, that chip was far better than i ever thought. In the right hands. Hard lesson learnt that day.

Side note:
So before assuming chips are junk, you really would need all the options open to you and time to play with it before passing any real judgement calls.

 

How high is the chance to get a 6700K which runs 4.7/4.8 with ok voltage ? Of course if you play with it to achieve this.

 

Demanding voltage might differ from program you run.
3dmark firestrike physics is low demanding compared to 3dmark11 physics.
I dont know how people in US or western countries show the good silicon but in Korea, we do linx 0.64 or 0.65 or even 0.66.
We say, this 6700k passes linx 0.6.4 20times with xxx voltage with water / or air cool at xxx temperature.

 

Define ok voltage. Ok on desktop with WC and delid? or ok on laptop in Florida?

Generally, for 24/7 1.4vish is where you want to stop even if temp is ok.

 

Somewhat OT:

You lucky Americans. Here 6700k cost around 500 a pop...

Honestly, I think that 1680 will overclock better than a normal 5960x if you just dump it in a proper desktop board. From what I had seen on the OCN thread about 1680s, it overclock surprisingly well. A 4.6ghz on octa for a laptop really quite good. I was never that into the 4960x/3970x stuff. I felt it just didnt have enough to justify it over the 4930k. Any plan of jumping to the supposed deca-core broadwell e? It would be fun to tame one of those..... although broadwell overclocking was very disappointing.

Hell, if I am still on a desktop, I would be quite interested in that 980 ti. You have it under water? Does it actually match a titan x clock per clock like KINGPIN said? If only we had aftermarket designed titan x.....

 

The question was perhaps clumsily executed Thought more about how big is the chance, to get an ok chip that manage 4.7 / 4.8 GHz (in this laptop with an ok ambient temp). It is not certain I made the question understandable now either, LOL

 

Depends on if you are willing to delid.

My chip can probably do 4.7/4.8 ghz fine except I need to fix this temperature wall somehow. Your biggest problem with 6700k is going to be temperature on laptop.
We dont have radiators or TECs or any of the fancy cooling gear. Which is a shame, I will gladly remove the battery and possibly a HDD bay for a 120mm rad for the CPU.

 

Best 6700ks can run 4.7~4.8 at about 1.26~1.28v for linx 0.66k on desktop using water cool at about 20C when full loaded.
I have one on my desktop and on weekend I am gonna try it on my p750dm-g and let you know how cool it is.

 

I see you guys are having fun here!

 

Its all thank to you buddy!

None of this would be possible without you!

 

yes absolutely.

 

Its keeping up now, but that is only to a point. one day i may seriously press the issue to see what it will actually do.(1680v2)
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/4867105/fs/7726269#
But I haven't put it to the full test on the right os yet.

Nope, but you have portable ac and winter time or cold nights in general. lol
Why do you think the heavier overclockers have portable ac's? To keep the room cool in summer?? Nope.

 

Yeah....Well....some of them are....lol
The rest are waiting on you!

 

Time to find out how many watts the VRMs on the p570wm can take?

It looks like the titan x is still slightly better on a clock per clock basis. Slightly disappointed but oh well. What can you do when nvidia lock down the design? At least if you arent crazy enough for a hard mod.

 

Yeah, we may have to start a "BIOS Lottery" system to get more folks into the game...
Looks like you are slowly growing old there at the top while waiting for some company:

Spoiler

 

I think I have beat at least one of my scores, but will have to look around for it.
And no need for hard modding cards when you are only gaming. Most hard mods might play out fast if not under ln2 or dice.

Bahahaha!

 

Good point! Forget full cover blocks wont fit with the additional power board....

 

Anyone OCing with p750 or p770dm? I got some questions to ask but everyone seems to own p870dm

 

Whats up? You are limited to XTU and TS right?