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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. Papusan

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    Hello.
    I am using TS yes. But whatever I do, current is limited to 121A.
    And due to this limit, I am only able to OC 6700k to 4.5 with stability.
    If I go higher like 4.6, current throttle happens.
    Do you have any similar experience?
     
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    Hmmm. Can you raise current with XTU? Though xtu is way less stable imo.

    No, not really. I max out my power limits via bios.
     
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    I am talking about current not power. Even if I change current, yes the number changes but still limited to 123A.
    You can check this by using XTU monitoring (there is current throttle configuration) and run a bench with 4.6.
     
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  5. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Yes sorry just choose custom then change the memory ratio
     
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    Can you put in my Wprime 32m score ?
     
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    done, you are an overclocking God!
     
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    Thanks.
    No. Because this laptop has socket hardware so everything comes by itself :D. Very happy with the machine. Don't know how much Raid degrade the Cpu performance, but this can't be much.
     
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    Does RAID affect CPU performance?
    if you have a extra HDD, you can probably test how much it affects the performance.
     
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    Think @Phoenix said something about the topic. No raid controller on Clevo laptops. But personally I don't think this is a big loss if it is a degrade at all.
     
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    I thought it did as my wPRIME score went down, turned out to be it was Avast Antivirus causing it.
    I am back on RAID 0 now for both my NVMe SSDs and my wo 2TB HDDs, wPRIME score is still the same
     
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    RAID 0 has very little overhead, the impact on a modern processor will be tiny.
     
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    Question for you bro, why does Sager advertise these latest laptops as having hardware RAID when we know as long as a computer doesn't have a dedicated RAID controller, it is not hardware RAID and even though it is setup in the BIOS, it is a Hybrid RAID as it still uses the CPU for the RAID operations? Isn't that false advertising?

    raid.png
     
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    It's tricky, because firmware raid in a way is hardware raid, it's not controlled by the OS and is managed by the chipset, it's just the controller chip used is the CPU.

    That subtle definition is hard to get across to people but it's certainly not pure software, you can manage the array with no OS installed.
     
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    Yes stay away from AVAST I ran an abundant amount of testing with my gt80 and its will cause resource troubles. Better off with AVG free.

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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    Running Windows Defender now on Windows 10 with the PUP Detection patch, at least it doesn't interfere with my system. Last time I used AVG 6 months ago it corrupted my entire RAID 0 array. Never again

    Windows Defender Is Becoming the Powerful Antivirus That Windows 10 Needs

     
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    Wow never heard of that, I have used AVG on several platforms with raid and never an issue. The only issue I have ever had was with license corruption and a simple reinstall corrected it easily. Crazy luck you have.

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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    @Phoenix

    I think I just beat @Papusan on cinebench R11.5

    p750dm-g powered by PREMA
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    samsung stock ram @ 2800 CR2 CL16

    And how can I show the highest clock?
    Just OC and take a screenshot of CPU-z as in HWBOT?


    cineR11.5.jpg
     
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    You are the new CINEBENCH Winner

    [​IMG]
     
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    @godfafa_kr

    Now show us some wPRIME magic :D

    Remember, choose settings then set it to 8 threads
     
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    No problem. I'm still messing around in the bios (had to reset CMOS a couple of times because of non-boot; trial and error). I was able to to get to 2800MHz in the bios and it's perfectly stable. :)

    Neat thing is I didn't have to manipulate the timings for this minute overclock (just set certain options to auto and it clocks higher automaticaly). I'd share more but I'm not home at the moment.

    So on and so...this tells me I have even more overclocking headroom, perhaps I can make it to 3000MHz and a little beyond. :D. Hopefully I can figure this out.

    BTW are you going to upgrade to the G.skill 2800MHz RAM? Would be awesome to see what you can do with it beyond stock speeds. :)

    Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
     
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    first let me get it :D Secondly, let me run it for a while @ 2800 MHz that would be a huge upgrade from my current 2133 MHz. IF all passes, then I might try 3000 MHz
     
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    Anyone care to try to bench these high over clocks running 3dmark vantage?
     
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    I am realizing how bad stock bios is and also how good prema bios is.
    3dmark Firestrike physics : 15425 @ 4.8

    FS.jpg
     
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    I really wish @Prema releases a public version for the P870DM (/-G), i doubt this will ever happen , but wishful thinking. This would be helpful for heavy tweakers like me who had to get a system on short notice and couldn't go with a system builder who already provides one with or without extra cost. Heck i dont even mind paying for it, if i can flash it on my own.

    @godfafa_kr I remember you inquiring about AMIBCP in another thread, did you end up flashing Prema's version ? or did you mod it on your own?
     
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    Exactly why we can't pass judgement on parts till we have an optimal working environment. Then once REAL stock is realized, then we can go forward.
     
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    I failed modding by myself. Secure nvram was too hard for me to crack.
     
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    p750dm-g with 6700k@5G

    Just a CPU-Z screen-shot at idle.

    5.0.jpg
     
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    Haha, same for me. Heck i got lost way before that.
     
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    Great job!

    Edit:
    That bios can not be edited in the normal way of things....
     
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    Some more bench shots.
    I am kinda shocked by what @Prema has done to my laptop.

    p750dm-g
    win10 home 64bit
    [email protected] (using TS 8.10 thx to @unclewebb), Delided liquid inside/gelid extreme outside
    samsung stock ram@2800 CL16 CR2
    980m@stock clock (using latest prema vbios)



    TS settings
    TS 4.8.jpg


    3dmark11
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    3dmark firestrike
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    I can't compete with gtx980 but still my 6700k is powerful enough to compete with ya'll.
    I will do more benches when I get time and maybe also try things in win7.
     
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    here you go.
    gotta go to work now. have to leave laptop at home.
    will do more when I get time maybe on weekends.
     
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    Hey John, is the voltage for 980m only for core or does it increase memory voltage as well?

    Thats a pretty high memory OC there.
     
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    Hell, that's not even the highest. @Meaker@Sager Holds that title on stock vram at 1675 to maybe 1725. Not totally sure. And @Khenglish holds it with modding the memory chips at 1875 on vram
     
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    Was trying to catch up to Meaker on the over clock. But it comes and it goes and right now it's going...lol
     
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    Here's one at 4.8GHz. I haven't tuned my settings up for the latest BIOS mod. Maybe when I have time I can tweak it a little more and squeeze a few more points out of it. These are the 4.8GHz settings I was using back around December and there have probably been 50 BIOS mods by @Prema I have tested since then... maybe more than 50... a LOT anyway... I stopped counting, LOL.

    11.53.JPG
     
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    what latest Prema BIOS Mod?

    Eurocom just sent me 1.05.03EC a few days ago, Sky X9E edition which has the NVMe boot fix
     
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    A secret... *whistles non-chalantly* - when it's ready @Prema will make it available. :vbwink:

    Here's little better... 11.63. Had to give the CPU a little more voltage. 4.8GHz.

    11.63.JPG
     
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    I can see you're back :D
     
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    Only for a bit. REALLY CRAZY busy at work right now. Working very long hours, unfortunately.

    Time for bed... when I have more time I will have to try for 4.9GHz or 5.0GHz. I can actually run those clock speeds, however it TDP throttles down to like 4.5GHz for some reason when I go past 4.8GHz. Once in a while it tries doing that at 4.8GHz as well. Probably need to play around more with the voltage. Skylake is crazy sensitive to voltage. Just a tiny bit to much voltage and it starts throttling. Giving more watts/amps doesn't help. Already tried maxing those out.
     
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    Okay i have managed to unlock my BIOS by myself (no i wont give sny instructio s couse of prema) so i will some overclocking soon.

    Repaste and CPU delid worked well! Temperature are 20 C better! Just need to test some things out! Will report later!
     
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    Same here. 4.8 was the max clock that I could hold. Behind that, as you just said, throttles down to 4.5 or even lower.
    I am guessing that there might be some kind of current limit of MOBO which I experienced on m17x R4 and m18x R2.
    m18x R2 had a voltage lock, m17x R4 had a short boost power limit.
     
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    What do you mean? No time to clam up like clam chowder! Get to spilling the secrets in a tell all mini novel. We are waiting!

    :D :D :D
     
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