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    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. jaybee83

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    nah, id go for 1080 gddr5x! :D seeing as a 1080 is basically as expensive as a 980Mxm board it would almost even make (financial) sense! *rofl*

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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I'm just uncertain of compatibility because of the standard, otherwise, I agree!

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  3. Johnksss

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    I had the cards to do it, but then they said something about 1080's so i will wait. 1080M should beat 980 notebook desktop by allot. Speculation of course.
     
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    One of them is 190 pins, the other is 170 pins.
     
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  5. jaybee83

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    1070 vram it is, then! so, whos willing to donate for a good cause? :p
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    That's 8ghz stock that has slight room to OC! :)

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  7. Mr. Fox

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    I would look on @Prema web site. You can download it there.
     
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    Aquamark3 Benchmark
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    Added to the leader's board.
     
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    wont work, since ure talking about different sockets in this case. however, u can look forward to kaby lake, since that will use the same socket LGA1151. although it remains to be seen, if it will bring any significant performance boost compared with skylake...
     
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    Extreme is usually bigger, so i'm guessing it will be the same here so that means different board.

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    It will also be interesting to see what "not supported" means in relation to the OS. If Kaby Lake really and truly requires Windows 10 to function correctly then it's going to be a sucky piece of feces because of the lousy OS. It needs to be fully functional for Windows 7 and Linux users. Maybe that is just more marketing lies and misinformation to help the Redmond Mafia try to ram their new cancer filth down our throats. DX12 turned out to be a joke to entice gamer-boys, so I'm hoping it's just another one of their dirty tricks.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Just means they won't offer newer driver optimizations and support new processor features, which could slightly knee cap performance compared to win 10 to "incentivize" an upgrade... Marketing mba ********!

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    It's really only in benchmarks for the most part, but as long as we can over clock some, that would cover the loss. imho
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Still crappy to force a product to consumers by creating a dependent relationship for full optimization. I'm just tired of the tech industry trying to bilk consumers to bleed them dry and hold back advancements for the sake of the almighty $



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    Not sure that is entirely true.... Since high end cpus use to cost 1000/1099.00 (not counting xeon) and not 279.00/349.00.
    When sandy bridge came out, allot of new folks swore they knew how to over clock. Then ivy came out and that same group got mad because it took far more effort to overclock because of the new heat factory due to tim. Then the haswell. Still 4C/8T cpus still under 350 dollars.

    As far as i can tell that is geared toward the consumer. Us upper high end folks bought E systems which were back in the 1k or higher range. Most times this pays off, but a few times...Not so much. Depending on what is being benched.

    As to the hold up....Could of course be the almighty dollar or unforeseen issues. Only speculations at this point.
     
  20. oveco

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    Its gift from HWBOT on the Computex 2016 – all guys can study here with overclocking.

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    ill just run right over there....oh wait....im in california. :(
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Great points, and generally, I agree. I was speaking more generally the slow adoption of advancements. Now, there are issues unforseen such as miniaturization, lithography issues, etc. But there have been other times that the tech was there and sat on (finfets) which wasn't incorporated until the end of the patent period...

    I do agree many don't know how to use what they have and complain in those regards. I wasn't referencing that, but rather extending time before adoption...

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    Nothing wrong with that at all.
    I'm going to wait for GTX 1380 to come out........N O T! :D. I hear that way to much. Waiting for stuff just because the name is posted somewhere. Then when it comes out they are waiting for the next 6 more generations to hit before they upgrade. Kind of funny at times. Lots of technical stuff thrown around, then the many complaints about what they think it should be. Then the work arounds to make it function as intended 3 to 5 months later....and then the cycle repeats.

    I'm the here and now kind of guy. Run it now and upgrade when it seems beneficial later, but then most of my stuff is benching. and the other 3 or 4 machines are for computer repairs. drive recoveries and so forth. And this stuff runs plenty fast for what it's doing. Including an old 2600K & i7 920 running a media streaming server and domain controller.

    It's good to know good tech is headed our way, but i rather they wait to release it when it's ready instead of us being the guinea pigs with thousands of dollars on the line waiting on a working solution. Like a 10 to 100 mhz bump in speed and want another 1100 dollars for it, (but neglected to inform us that the first gen cause compu errors). When you have done this for many years. It starts to get old after a while...But that is just my opinion on it
     
  24. Mr. Fox

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    That's true, but making Kaby Lake only "supported" (whatever that means) by Windows 10 as a marketing stunt that turns out to be irrelevant shows how low they can go with their deception and manipulation. I haven't cared about having Micro$loth "support" for a long time. I still don't care. But, some people do and playing to their fears and making statements that lead them to believe they have to install Windows 10 is just downright crooked. Of course, my surprised look is not on my face. I expect that from them at this point. It's just how they roll.
     
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    Yeah, im not real happy about it either. I like to be able to use whatever I want. That's for sure, but if windows 10 runs everything like running under windows 7, then i'll be content with it. Considering now. Winows 7 to fully install for a client is a nightmare now. Full install includes all updates, which now can take as long as 24 hours to even start. ( This is me from a techs point of view) That is starting to have me dislike windows 7 more and more each day.
     
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    Yeah, I've heard about those horror stories. Their behavior is definitely earning them the "Redmond Mafia" and "Digi-Nazi" nicknames. They're going over the top to make it difficult for people to refuse the upgrade. That just pisses me off all the more and makes we want to go back to Vista or XP, for better or not, as an act of blatant and arrogant defiance. Control Freaks like Micro$lop bring out the worst in me.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Nah, don't worry about XTU. Bench something more important. I think XTU sucks anyhow. I never use it unless I absolutely have no other option available for overclocking.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Windows 7 will be more and more a nightmare to set up as a new installation. updates will take long time and performance will be reduced gradually with meaningless updates. We've only seen the beginning of the destruction of this OS... Micro$haft will do everything they can to force you to migrate to their new pastel-colored new tile artwork. Although the forced free Win 10 will soon be over, the Redmond Morons will continue their wild hunt for anyone who does not want over to Win X. Only closed Win updates can help you to have the same performance from your Hardware as you have today. This is plain facts.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Experienced a similar problem with latest XTU on my W230 with the submit button...had to save and upload my XTU bench file manually. I don't think we need to use a specific version at all, just save and export it as .xtu file with whatever version works for you.
     
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    Go to hwbot.org and look for each category that you get what points in, then bench those! The ones that give you no points are the only ones at the moment that don't matter! :)

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    @ajc9988 : you were kinda right on my quest for 49x Cinebench R15 runs - when moving from [email protected] to 49x, it seems that i dont need a big bump in voltage, but there´s still something missing. I can get Cinebench R15 to do half a run (it gives an error message midway) with 1.34v up to 1.365v. With 1.37v and higher the runs also fail midway but with the system freezing. Already tried the "stable" voltages with the cache at 30x (no offset and also with a+50 offset) and with svid spreads ranging from 400 to 500 in steps of 25. Still, was able to do wPrime2.10 32m runs with [email protected]. Might be able to do 50x..

    The so called golden driver (365.19, desktop and laptop) has been a crappy oc´er for me, despite giving a higher stock score on 3DMark11 compared to 368.22. Just installed 368.25, let´s see..
     
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    Try upping input voltage to 2.00V and see if that helps. I have been using 1.800v and 1.900 for up to 4.8GHz.
     
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    Wish I was there to troubleshoot and get it to run that. It'd be fun! Btw, if your cooling is handling the heat, go higher on svid, just don't be reckless on heat or voltage...

    @Mr. Fox -beat me to the suggestion "by that much!"

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    Input voltage? remind me again bro, where is the setting for that? I don't remember I ever touched it.
     
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    Im guessing they are referring to either VCCIN or VCore. But i doubt our processors even need that much voltage, since they usually top out at 1.5-1.6V on desktops and around 1.5V , on our P870DM-G's.

    4790k's probably need way more voltage than the 6700k's, that what i figured from the previous posts.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    VCCIN = Input voltage

    Edit: Input voltage is no longer a setting. Same goes for cache voltage.
    http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics
     
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    Regarding the Win7 updates, give it at most 24hrs and they should finally start. It's been that rediculous ever since Win 10 released. Coincidence? All my work and home reinstalls have taken that long.


    Only solution I can think of is to set up a WSUS server, but I haven't made the time for that either.
     
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    I just got all the update files from a friend, so that will make like that much easier, but wont know till i give it a go.
     
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    So the local sager reseller got back to my case and said pins on my mobo got bent. I dont understand how this could happen when i never ever put anything aside from the cpu in it. [​IMG]
     
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    Q-Tips, stray fiber on a cloth, end of a paper towel, etc etc, Has happened to me as well. You can always use a needle to just gently push it back into place.
     
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    Well the laptop is not with me atm. Its still with the service team. I asked them to try to gently push it back into place.
     
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    As @Papusan indicated, this is not applicable to Skylake. You may remember that from your Alienware 18, because setting input voltage to 2.00V made the 4930MX and 4940MX a lot more stable with heavy-duty overclocking. Same applies to the Devil's Canyon Batman laptop since that is Haswell. It's not the same as core voltage.
     
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    yes I remember very well, setting the input voltage to 2.0 back then is what stabilized my 4940MX to run @ 4.4 GHz
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Given the kind of benchmarks I have managed to achieve against desktops I am so tempted to make my next machine one of the soldered ones and really run it through its paces.
     
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    last ive read, an MSI ghost with a titan X as egpu :p
     
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    Offtopic....Lets get ready to rumble! I would roll with this all in one.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I've seen that big boy live a long time ago... they sure are taking its time to make them available to resellers.
    Waiting for it to be able so i can sell those too :D
     
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    Nice one! Seems at least partially upgradeable.
     
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