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That makes sense now, I was wondering why you weren't continuing the debugging, that's why I posted the words of encouragement

 

Do you have a score with a normal mobile driver?

 

Yah. If the repair is below a couple of hundred dollars i think ill agree to it. I cant afford anymore down time. Will be bringing it with me when i meet friends nxt month on the dota 2 tournament (Manila Major) so excited for it

 

DOTA2!!
You are a gamer!
You should come to Korea someday. Everyone is a gamer here hehe.

 

In my early years i played alot. Now i just want to watch those who made the game famous. All the big teams are coming so prices for the tickets went sky rocket. 3-5x more! Them crazy scalpers .

Yah i heard you guys have courses to become a pro gamer rofl and gamers are really famous esp them starcraft players.

 

Dude ! So awesome you can attend.

 

Yah but tickets were hard to get!! I had to buy from a scalper. Initially the best tix were sold at around 10usd only! I had to pay around 30 for ea ticket. I am only going to the playoffs though on the 11-12th! Brought my gf with me too so hopefully she could appreciate the only game i love! hope i can get to meet team secret eg and ofc the fan favs navi!

 

Man nice! Hope you have fun!
I attended the international last year, will do this year as well. Met EG a bunch of times when i was still in San Francisco. Never got the chance to meet my favourite team Secret though.
I saw that post on Reddit with the insane que going at the ticket counters ha-ha.
Navi is gonna be a bust. Cant for the secret vs Navi and secret vs DC games in the group stages.

 

Insanely stupid that when tickets were released their site went down! So people had to go line up! I was in america last month when tickets were sold thats why i was able to get my 770dm in the US. I actually wanna host eg or secret for dinner or something if only that was possible lol. Who knows navi might just show up! Also pinoys love navi! Its like the equivalent of LA LAKERS in the dota world ha ha ha.

 

Creeping up on @ajc9988, little by little. I never knew the 4790K was as much of a blast furnace as the 4930MX. It certainly overclocks nice enough for a little 15-inch monsterbook, but this sucker is a real pain in the butt to try to keep cool when overclocked. Liquid Ultra doesn't help much. I guess I need to check the CPU/heat sink contact. It may have a crappy fit problem like the first junk heat sink I had in the Panther.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11284888

 

Have you delided it?

 

Yes, did that yesterday. I have Liquid Ultra on both sides of the IHS and it's not much cooler than before I delided... in fact, it's almost identical. That's why I am thinking the heat sink may not fit well. The first one I had in the Panther was deformed and replacing it fixed everything. I may use pressure film to check later tonight to see how tight (or loose) it is and maybe try adding a copper shim between the IHS and heat sink... maybe. Feeling kind of lazy right now, so I don't know.

 

It might just haswell being haswell. FIVR runs way too hot.

 

Liquid ultra gave a nice temperature decrease with 4930Mx. Should made a difference also on DT Haswell.

 

Yeah, I think it's a bad heat sink fit and may need to be replaced. Delid and Liquid Ultra should have made a HUGE improvement and it almost was a waste of time and money. The improvement was extremely minor. Plus, I have not seen @Samot or @ajc9988 or @jaybee83 talking about struggling with high temps.

 

How's this? I wanted to see how much punishment the original puny little 240W AC adapter can handle, so I set the 330W aside for a bit. This benchmark pulled 298W from a 240W AC adapter from start to finish on test #1, 270W or higher in all other graphics tests, and 980M showed a peak of 162W draw in HWiNFO64, LOL. @Prema magic works on packages of all sizes.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11285049

 

Nice. +12000 in physics now. Is there a performance increase difference between 368.22 vs 368.25?

 

Nope, switched over to modding the desktop driver and never looked back. Seemed to treat me well so far, including avoiding behavior I've read about with newer drivers.

Looks like it is coming along! Always good to see! Plus looking forward to competition on the same platform. There's only a handful of us! And this is a surface, as well as deformed heatsink, etc. More below.

So, liquid ultra never had the same effect that is reported on desktops and Skylake (15-20C drop) for us. It is a blast furnace, as you suggested. I don't know what temps you are looking at, but 4.5 auto idle is high 40s to low 50s for me and max fan (which I always turn on) is mid 30s to very low 40s with ambient of 70-80sF (I'm in high 20s to mid 30s in the low 60s F) with unoptimized 4.5 settings at static 1.130 for every day stability. Even though this is not at good as a previous installation on my heat sink, it still keeps temps under 90s unaided (usually 70s or 80s of pushed hard). We had to fight for every degree, hence the setting for cache at 40x because that 3 degrees toward a core multiplier meant more in most benches than the cache. It's also what inspired the screw mod (switching from spring screws to regulate screws and tightening the turns. I used pressure film to check for contact and that I wasn't crushing the socket. Also why the lapping, the better fujipoly pads, mentioning that the heat sink, even when not warped, can be finicky.

We dealt the best we could with our heat problems on the p770zm and p750zm forums! By now, we've all dealt with it in so many different ways it's now either benching or just enjoying (although I'm considering purchasing the p775dm heat sink and modding this case to take it like a champ. The cpu side looks the same, but the fatter heat pipes on the gpu side may mean a dremel! Also the 775 has a larger, more powerful fan on the gpu side that won't be present (unless potentially carving out what may be supportive plastic right above the gpu fan, between there and the m.2 socket). I was at 24 F at 5.3ghz, did benching at 5.1 (although it was warming up and I was pushing that 10C warning on CLU for low temps). But you are feeling our pain now on the heat thing (also why I asked about a cherry CPU). If your temps didn't get at least, or around, 5C drop, then contact is an issue. Contact also caused problems of pump out with gelid extreme and other thermal paste, causing initial temps to rock, then creep higher...

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A little bit, but 10,000 BTU AC works wonders when your heat sink is crap. I am idling at 12°C.

@ajc9988 - 4.5GHz in 3DMark 11 physics test after delid and CLU and only max fans gets me 95°C or higher and usually crashes with 0x101 STOP error due to extreme temps. Running BIOS defaults in the same test hits 91°C so the heat sink is definitely not making good contact or has something else wrong with it (other than being too small).

 

I'd be over 5ghz with that idle, but Haswell chips get finicky and not all do well above 4.7, getting fewer and fewer (and hotter) above it! That is the Haswell curse! I'm at [email protected] for most benchmarks (minor stability issues with some, but not a suicide run either). That is much better than most and I still want better cooling...

Edit: @Mr. Fox - that is definitely a contact issue, most likely, as lapping, etc. Only drops like another couple degrees...

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http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8614080

 

I tried modding the 368.25, if you mod the nvdmi.inf you get all install options, but seemed to drastically increase the heat output (although it allowed for slightly more oc on the graphics card). The physx doesn't do as well as the one from 365.19. Considering they are supposedly the same version, I find it odd. The driver allows my gpu to hit 79 C and that spiked my cpu considerably to the same you said (gpu is normally low 70s or 60s) with ambient high 70s F. I'll have to try another time (nieces and nephew are visiting and are in the room with the large AC in it)... But the graphics score is higher. I'm thinking 365.19 upgrade to 368.25, not mod nvdmi, just reference, is my next goal (3Dmark 11 physics of 12,700 at 4.8)... Also, modding the nvdmi caused a timer error... But your score beat mine (you have a better graphics card for OC. I've pushed mine to the limits and it quits before yours, johnksss, etc.). So I'll have to find another way to beat that score!

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It is really sad that Maxwell MXM is so inconsistent. I've had a terrible experience getting crappy Maxwell GPUs. I have a 970M that is trash and neither one of the 980M I have will OC as well as @johnksss or @Thumper_23 980M cards do. Running on AC cooling allows the GPUs to be overclocked/overvolted further without black screen lockups. Without AC I cannot OC either of my 980M cards anywhere close to this well. 1350-1375 on core is about as far as they can go without acting retarded with normal system cooling. They crash just above 70-72°C because, apparently, something else on the GPU is much hotter than the core temp suggests.

Try this mod from @j95 (what I am using) https://www.techinferno.com/index.p...er-support-modded-inf/&page=50#comment-143321

 

I wish I had either of their cards, or khenglish's with the 970 vram on it! I can do a bit better than that on firestrike and gpupi only, but definitely agree.

And thanks! I'll give that a shot in the morning. Hate when I wake up middle of the night and insomnia kicks in...

Edit: @Mr. Fox - so, this may be unique to me, but part way through, it is kicking max fan to auto fan on 3DMark 11 (I believe around the physics test our combined test). It is also still reading 79C on the core with this driver (no crash though). So I'm guessing the core is getting hotter and isn't sticking on the other component that usually limits it or something... All things considered, my scores are slightly lower with this over my other two. I might try to install 368.22 following his instructions later... But off to work!

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aw man, @Mr. Fox and his damn portable A/C unit *lol* u beat my best fs score by 140 points and my best 3dm11 score by about 100 points at least im not that far off ^^ also, i havent benched at all these past few months, way too busy with my dissertation *sigh*

in any case, @ajc9988 is right in saying that the 4790K is truly a furnace! switching from regular paste to CLU got me about 5-10C drop in load temps. highest bench clocks i could achieve were at 4.8 ghz with 4.9 and 5.0 ghz for funsies and cpu-z screenies

so hey, whos up for finally beating that annoying #1 fs score in the ZM realm?

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5280355

 

So somewhat offtopic, do you still uses liquid metal based paste on HEDT CPU with soldered on IHS @johnksss @Mr. Fox ?

I didnt think it would make much of a difference.

 

Absolutely, made a massive difference for me, but only after I switched to a good heat sink with the Panther... then it worked fantastic for me. I could not use it at all with the original deformed heat sink. Temps were uncontrollable because the copper plate was not making adequate contact with the IHS. I had to use IC Diamond to fill up the sloppy gaps. I got lucky and got a great heat sink from Eurocom, then Liquid Ultra dropped my load temps with 4930K and 4960X about 10-12°C and allowed me to run 4.3GHz as my normal everyday driver clock speed using only internal fan cooling, which was not possible with any other paste on the Panther. The only times it has not made a massive improvement for me is on a system with a CPU heat sink that fits poorly.

 

OK, you may wanna take out the battery when benching the CPU & GPU @ maximum OC. Tripping the AC Adapter while benching max values apparently killed a cell in my battery when it took over the load... :|

 

I'm sorry to hear that! But thank you for the warning!

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@Mr. Fox @bloodhawk @Phoenix @Ashtrix @johnksss @hmscott @ajc9988
For the first time has a single graphics card in a laptop managed a score over 12000P in Firestrike with stock clock, LOL
Fire Strike 12007P. I've waited for this. Finally!! Who said bench with stock graphics is boring?
I did not have to wait for a new driver to break this limit as I thought in earlier post, HaHa
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/12235434


VS stock ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Strix http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_980_strix_review,21.html


Edit: This is previous Firestrike records for stock single graphics!! 11992P
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-251#post-10261439

 

Yeah, the spikes can be nasty in that sort of situation.

 

Here's a new record for 200W GTX 980...

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11287728

 

Phoenix Killing Spree be like
just another day of fun in the sun

Beauty & the Beach​

 

you smoked us and left us in the dust.....

Mr. Fox on the leaders board again

 

Here's another one...

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/12237922

 

Mr. Fox making us run as if it was a stampede, strikes with all his overclocking/over-volting force

 

btw, why arent there any single 980M highscores? also, i think @ajc9988 has a word to say concerning highest cpu clocks record...

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Seems like someone pressed the "Demolition button" = ON for @Mr. Fox

Rising again after a long nap

 

anyone who wishes to have his score updated, if and only if his score replaces another users's score with a higher result OR if it fills an empty score, please mention t3h m3h

 

I posted some new single 980M high scores for the P750ZM earlier, but those will be eclipsed by @johnksss and @Thumper_23

I've been way too busy at work to play... actually, still am, but I managed to carve out some time for this. Probably won't have time for a while again.

 

Notice anything different in the screen shot?


Thanks to @j95 for this tip.

 

Did you guys try to run the RAM @3200, yet? I bet they can do 16-16-16 at that speed.

 

Precision X skins 5.2.x and older versions only.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5193919&postcount=84

Latest AB https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html

 

Niiiiice! But only limited to +100mv. Nevertheless a little step in the right direction!

 

On air and platform, yes to CPU clocks record, although I'm considering getting equipment for ln2 for Zen if no CBB or CB is present! ;-)

@Phoenix - scores for the OP: GPUPI 1B

http://hwbot.org/submission/3224210_ajc9988_gpupi___1b_geforce_gtx_980m_39sec_602ms

As for fastest CPU, I had 5.3, but was a noob and can't verify it. What I can verify is benches at 5.1, taking that crown:

http://hwbot.org/submission/3028035_ajc9988_pifast_core_i7_4790k_13sec_340ms

http://hwbot.org/submission/3028044_ajc9988_wprime___32m_core_i7_4790k_4sec_727ms

http://hwbot.org/submission/3028049_ajc9988_superpi___1m_core_i7_4790k_7sec_144ms

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Yeah, i consider myself lucky. The only mod i´ve done so far was to delid the cpu. Clu is applied between the die and ihs, and Kryomaut is between the ihs and heatsink. Got a drop of ~12c. I have the exact same temps @ajc9988 has reported - with 22c ambient temp i have [email protected] idle auto fans at high 40´s, and with max fans also idling i have low 30´s.

Will try Clu between the ihs and heatsink later, but i´ll lap both first - the contact isn´t bad but it´s far from "perfect". I followed ajc9988´s shopping list and have all the tools needed since December but still wasn´t able to find some time to do it. Still need to purchase some fujipoly pads, and pressure film for the screw mod.

Btw ajc9988 and @Papusan , my cache ratio settings on the bios definitely aren´t getting applied. If i set it to 44x and run Cinebench R15 i get lower temps (about 3c/4c degrees) compared to setting the cache ratio on TS8. So, it´s safe to assume that the system agent and digital/analog i/o offsets don´t get applied also when set on the bios, since TS8 reports them at default settings. Core ratios, core voltage, cache voltage, svid/vccin, etc, on the other hand are correctly applied by the bios. Will have to ask Prema about this.

Yup, i´m logged in all the time. Stranger thing is that my Firestrike runs are stored but 3dMark11 aren´t.

Already have OpenCl 1.2 and Cuda 8.0. Downloading Intel´s openCl driver.

 

First, tag @Prema to ask about those voltages unless doing so in pm. Second, the cache acted weird with xtu installed, but it seems to set properly after two goes through the bios. I set to 40 instead of its auto overclock to 44. I then go back in, verify it says 40, then manually set it to 44. Showed slightly higher benchmark scores after, but not a lot (doesn't effect it much). In June when I go through setting up the laptop from scratch, I'll verify that and more... Would like a way to confirm the other voltages though...

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I still use ic diamond at the moment.

The reigning king on most of the single 980M's is Khenglish

 

indeed, 12k+ in fs on single 980M wont be beaten anytime soon @Khenglish and his devious plan to install desktop 970 vram on his 980M tsk tsk tsk...

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If you want to beat it, find a way to get 1070 vram to put on it! Lol!

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