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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

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    Yeah, 1 k would be a good price point, though with the heatsink included.

    And i really hope this time the heatsink is somewhat beefier. I dont care if it makes the system heavier lol.
     
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    I'm not sure anyone else had a cable for the aux power in their notebooks.
     
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    @Mr. Fox Answered that with it was bga.

    Hoping they come with a standard card so i can throw them in here.
     
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    I don't think you can get one for anywhere close to $1,000 and the bigger question is, will your time window for full-refund returns expire before you can get one that it not plagued with defects? 30 days isn't much time and the support people will make tons of promises to try to lure you past the window of opportunity to get your money back, then you're stuck with a defective product that can only be exchanged for a defective replacement. Unlike the good old days, second-hand Alienware machines have poor resale values. Too many people are starting to figure out that the brand has turned into a vendor of junkbooks. They still have fairly decent build quality, but that alone is not a good enough reason to settle for the rest of the emasculated package.
     
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    You know me better than that. They could never talk me into keeping anything. :D I only need the machine for bot points. Not a "I can only have one laptop at a time" situation. And if time ran out, then id just take it back and get another one. Of course it would have to be during the time frame that some of the bugs have already been worked out so less trial and erroring on my part. Remember, these laptops are only parts to me and that's all i see them as. If a bga laptop can out score a socketed cpu laptop on a hand full of test, then best believe i would use it to do so.Im not impartial when it comes to points. Now would i keep it? I highly doubt it, unless it can beat out my fastest laptop in over 80 percent of benching. I don't need a 6700k in a laptop because for me, it's a points game. i can get more with that cpu on a desktop board. and i have already bench 980's so not really looking to go backward, but now 1080's...that's a different story.

    Now if i run across a 980N then of course im going to bench that. Who am i kidding. :D
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    You risk burning in with a very-very-very Crippled machine. I don't mean 2 or 3 changes before you get lucky. I mean you get stuck with a TurdBook even if the machine work as intended!!! Why take the chance @johnksss ???? DELLIENWARE isn't the same company as they were before...
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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...2-owners-lounge.770311/page-317#post-10272662
     
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  7. Johnksss

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    You have completely missed what i said my friend.
    "Remember, these laptops are only parts to me and that's all i see them as. If a bga laptop can out score a socketed cpu laptop on a hand full of test, then best believe i would use it to do so.Im not impartial when it comes to points"

    And as to the other part. I don't really have issues returning stuff or getting it replaced.
     
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  8. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    HaHa... This junk will never go over my doorstep. Never ever!! You think you can returning this Junk!!! Probably..., But don't think DELLIENWARE is the Santa Claus :D
     
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    @johnksss

    Managed to your hands on some 1080s yet? If all goes well, I should I be able to get my hands on a custom card by next week sometimes.

    Also, there are hwbot points related to eGPU now? Cool.
     
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    What exactly is that suppose to mean?

    No, not yet. Maybe tomorrow. We'll see.
     
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    Santa Claus isn't real. Stop writing letters.
     
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    I have a single GTX 1080 G1 Gaming shipping out this Friday I hope.

    Debating on what custom AIB card I should buy for my rig atm, depending on when the better custom cards will be out.

    Are you planning on LN2ing it?
     
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    Yeah, i still don't get it. Since it has nothing remotely to do with what im talking about. Im lost. sorry.
     
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    Not on the cards. Only air. But will run my ss/chilled water and ln2 on the cpu though.
     
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    What CPUs are you planning to bench on it? I am curious, what water chiller are you using?
     
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    5960X, but may borrow a 6950x just for some higher physics scores in some test and of course anything core related.

    Edit:
    You guys have to understand. Im a bencher/overclocker first and foremost. Everything else comes second. you only need to click the hwbot link in my sig to see how serious i am about that. And how many parts i have benched over the last 8 years. You guys may only be concerned with the current laptop you are using, im concerned about any laptop that can give me points. I have been ranked as high as 7th in the united states against the very best over clockers in our country and ranked in the to 60 world wide. If i just benched what i like and didn't like, i would never get anywhere. So all parts are open game to me.

    Just a small insight into the method of the madness...
     
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  17. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Ok AMD isn't going to come out with anything worthwihile to compete with 1080M let alone 980M at this rate.. I'm probably going to get the 1080M if the benches above materialise... 980 200W performance is what I need to drive my 1440p monitor!
     
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    Time for the early Throw back Thursday.
    8800GTS & X9000 Kicking butt and taking names! :D
    2008. Going up against Killernotebooks and shutting'em down! The king of the Garbage Ninja :D
    (A favorite quote from them back then)
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  19. Cass-Olé

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    Aliens, eh John boy?

     
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    Not exactly sure what you're getting at?
     
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    I think he was referring to Alienware having no real method to their madness, not your explanation of how you operate.
     
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    Ah, thanks. Because i was seriously trying to figure it out.
     
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    Speaking of Dell, here's something absolutely absurd that I got in the mail yesterday. It shows that their support of Alienware is in the toilet, and how badly out of touch with reality they have gotten. At first I wanted to laugh, but the more I thought about it I wanted to cry. What real enthusiast, by any stretch of the imagination, would consider an Inspiron 15 to be a "gaming notebook" ...?... LOL. If there is a method to their madness, it is definitely not a good one. This is truly pathetic... but, hey, it's available in red so maybe they think that makes up for everything else. It scares me to think that there are people that make and sell this product that actually believe it is awesome, or that they are willing to pull out all the stops on telling lies to gullible consumers that don't know they are buying garbage just to sell as much junk as possible.

    2016-06-09 13-35-31.jpg
     
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    Yes, it can play solitary fairly well....Just don't try to get fancy with the multicolored cards and backgrounds. :D
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Trust me, once this is launched in Dubai, muppets will jump on it like hawks. ESPECIALLY if it comes in red! w00+ w00+ :rolleyes:

    Pathetic Dell....just pathetic....... They killed our favorite brand/laptop Alienware and pooed all over it

    I bet you even Solitaire would stutter with it :D Unless you bought the Red Edition :D
     
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    Equally sad, the Alienware 15 really is not that much of an upgrade over this little turd. Had they marketed the Inspiron 15 as an inexpensive solution that falls on the high-end of the low-buck spectrum with mild gaming capabilities with a BGA CPU and BGA 960M the lies would not come across as so bold. But, if you read the wording of their propaganda, they make it sound really special.

    There's nothing wrong with living on a budget and buying something adequate when your needs are not great. Some people have a hard time connecting the dots between the price tag and the expected outcome. This clearly exploits consumer ignorance. At least we are all smart enough know why the patch of snow in the front yard is yellow and realize that it's not a good spot for the kids to lay down and make snow angels.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Watch out where the doggies go, do not eat the yellow snow! !! :)

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    It's available in red + discrete graphics. Guaranteed one of the better gaming laptops that from Dell. ++++ Cheaper than Alienware. Dell compete with themselves now :D. If AW is too expencive.... Then select rather Inspiron 15 "gaming notebook". Much gaming for your money. The main differences between AW15 and Inspiron 15 is just a more powerful BGA 970 / 980M. Dell could upgrade the <gaming monster> Inspiron 15 with better graphics, sell it cheaper and Aw 15 is blown over the water :rolleyes:.

    upload_2016-6-9_23-49-43.png

    Two cooling fans, three exhausts.... Even an extra exhaust compared to AW15. Run and buy before Dell converts this to the next rebadged AW15 and then take a much higher price.
    LOL http://uk.pcmag.com/dell-inspiron-15-7000-series-7559/74143/review/dell-inspiron-15-7000-series-7559
    upload_2016-6-10_1-0-8.png
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Haha! Also sounds like they are calling Alienware an "entry level gaming laptop, " which, at this moment, i agree. ..

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    +++ That the Inspirion 15 Is our new Editors' Choice for entry-level gaming laptops... Aw15 did not reach up in the contest!!! :D Beaten by a better Dell machine :p
     
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    @Mr. Fox
    Come on, give us more info about 1080m :)
     
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    http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-480-3d-mark-benchmarks/
    Take a look at the weak physics score and keep that in mind for this new AMD RX 480 card!!!

    Edit: this is an msrp $200 card. Not trying to make it sounds more than it is, but 18,000 graphics score... we'll see what it can do paired with a proper cpu and overclocked soon. ..
     
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    Aside from the pathetic physics score, that is comparable to stock single 200W GTX 980 notebook GPU graphics score and better than 980M with a heavy OC. I was excited for a minute thinking the result was from an MXM AMD card, but then I saw it was desktop. Still pretty decent, although not overly impressive. Hopefully, it will overclock like a banshee that has overdosed on pharmaceutical stimulants and prove to be a good option to the dirty green stuff we have been seeing lately.

    http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/11263084/3dm11/11285030/3dm11/10437800
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I'm praying for that too. This is also a 150W card, meaning it could go into some mxm form factor. Also, if it overclocks very well because of that low wattage (I'm thinking they clocked it to go right in between on performance but claim extreme efficiency in it), it could be very nice (amd isn't known for efficiency)...

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    I would not want one, but for just under $800 USD that is what a BGA "gamer-boy" jokebook price point should look like. That's about the most a BGA machine should ever sell for. Anything built with BGA has to be viewed as entry-level. If it were $500 it would be a compelling Chromebook replacement.

    See what @Prema said about it. :vbwink:
     
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    That card is no where in the ballpark, so 200 dollar seems fair....
    [​IMG]
     
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    I have an OC key from my Rampage 4 Extreme, would you be in need of one ? Its useless for me since i dont have that board any more , so you can just have it if you want it.
     
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    Yeah, $200 is reasonable for how it performs, but not really an extreme performance enthusiast product. Congrats on the GPU. I'm surprised the 1080 memory clock is so low, but even so it totally cleans the new AMD GPU's clock (pun intended)... big time.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Current AW15 / 17 with normal basic OEM specifications + 6820HK and Gtx980m should be around $ 800. Maximum 900-1000 $ because of the known brand name. Anything above this is money down the toilet!!
     
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    My board is a rampage 5 extreme, will that key still work? I only grabbed 2 cards because i didn't have a key.

    You do know 1250=5ghz or 10ghz effective right?
     
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    Im not sure, the same key does work with the Maximus V Extreme . Ill look into it once im home.
     
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    For the record it still lost....
    Ran on 2 cpu [email protected] ghz
    [​IMG]

    Ran on 4 cpu [email protected] ghz
    [​IMG]

    What we learn from this is a quad core is barely keeping up at stock 3.6 ghz speeds
    And a dual core is just plain out of the question..... For test one, which is cpu dependant

    Edit:
    No HT, just Cores.
     
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  43. Cass-Olé

    Cass-Olé Notebook Evangelist

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    @KingJohn I believe my post was the 1st time we've been formally introduced; I'm confident it didn't put us off to rough start; I took it in stride you west coast surfer boys had a sense of humor. I sent you a late night dig from the East Coast, I'm glad it got there. The night old Fox retired I pm'd him:
    "I found an old thread by accident only yesterday, I read all 23 pages, to take it all in. Funny. I was thinking about you. Where you were at 4years ago - Defender of the Faith - you & JohnK. You made some good arguments as a younger man" Myth Busters: Alienware Overpriced
    You both made good arguments. This was a highlight:

    "But now back on topic.
    Is alienware over priced? Heck yeah!
    Is that going to stop me from buying? Heck no!
    If they go the clevo route....Heck yes ill quit buying them"

    that's back when 18 was King​

    Here we are a few days later (call it a few years later), hearing about your Alien Apocolypse & I couldn't resist the dig man. I made an edit today, inserted another qwote of yours I ran across. I hope to keep the Good Vibrations going for another 50years if you'll let it.

    Hardware wise, I've got 14 power supplies here, 8 are over 1.2kW. Months now I've seen your 2200w sig, can't visualize it properly without a confirm; do u have a photo of your rig, or, paint a picture for me of how 2.2kW works up in that joint ;)
    I'm old school. I was there the very last time the Beach Boys played at the July 4th festival concert at the Mall: 1984, I was 14. Mr Fox, I'll have u know that Mr.T was there too, playin the drums. Mom came later that evening for the fireworks: 500,000 people there & I run smack dab into her ... holding a Budweiser. She din't bust me at the smoke in at the Lincoln Monument though ;) u get to be J Kurtz & J Kilgore
    it's good to be King
     
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    I'm pretty sure it is 10ghz with GDDR5X since that is what it should be. I know multiply GDDR5 by 4, so I'd say it is by 8 for the x, which calculates to what it should be.
     
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    Here's some results with HT and i7-4700MQ. Other than the CPU intensive benches there's not a huge difference to graphics score.
    [​IMG]
    http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/11301830/3dm11/11315650/3dm11/11315683#

    BTW what did you run your 1080 at? The above was ~2050/5500.
     
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    Thinking back on the "clevo route" That must be about how clevo had locked the bios and vetod all intentions of unlocking it to full over clocking support.

    I quit supporting Alienware the minute they used our information against us and locked the AW17/AW18. Then wanted to have more conversations about how to "improve" the current setup. That was when it was time for me to jump ship.

    As To 2200W, That's 2 PSU's totaling 2200W. The biggest one out is 1600W, but since you can link them i just used a 1k and a 1.2k.

    All is good. :)


    im 100 percent sure its 10 ghz. :)

    Stock.
     
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    That's always a danger.

    And what would the stock clock be? Mine boosts to 1850 core if run out of the box, higher than what is reported in GPU-z
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    11.72 pts this time. But now are all my scores under 11.70 removed from the Cinebench 11.5 ranking window :D But 11.75 will come!! :p
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    I forgot it is GDDR5X, so yeah, that's awesome.
     
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