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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. Mr. Fox

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    This BIOS actually had that when @Prema unlocked everything, but for some reason we could never get it to function. Maybe there was a limit on the NVRAM space or something was write protected where the space needed to be writable.... hard to say. When selecting it from the menu nothing would ever happen. Not even a prompt or acknowledgment it had been selected. I know he tried multiple times and we never could figure out why the menu item was basically "dead" for some reason. I really wanted that to work because it is an awesome feature on the P570WM unlocked BIOS. Since it was non-functional it was hidden so as to not confuse anyone about why it was there.

    This might work for you, so give it a shot and see what happens. Try setting core voltage adaptive, 25 core and 25 turbo voltage and +25 offset. This is what I have been using for 4.7GHz. It's probably more than necessary, so use it as a starting point. If that works and is stable, then try dropping it to 20 core, 20 turbo and +20 offset. Keep lowering them in small but consistent values. When you go low enough it is no longer stable go up +5 on offset. If that's not still not enough, go up by 5 on turbo until you find the lowest stable voltage. Once you find the sweet spot on lowest stable voltage set the same values for adaptive cache voltage. Going as low as possible to maintain stability may not give you the ideal benchmark scores, but it should help with temps. Once you find the lowest stable voltage for daily driver use you can always add a little more for benching when you need to.
     
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    Ok, So i was finally able to break my record on this.

    [​IMG]

    Edit
    @Mr. Fox . Ah, okay.

    Yeah, that would have been a hella nice feature there!
     
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    You lost me on this line "Try setting core voltage adaptive, 25 core and 25 turbo voltage and +25 offset" you mean 25 in processor. 25 in ring and 25 in uncore? and are the first 25 at - or + values?
     
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    No. I mean exactly as I presented it. Maybe pictures would make more sense.

    Like this and work your way down 'til you find where it's not enough, then go back up a little on the turbo and offset until it's stable again.
    BIOS_Core.jpg Once you find what's stable, set the same for ring voltage, like this. BIOS_Ring.jpg
     
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    Wonder why all examples and people kept saying to make offset prefix -
    what about in uncore?
     
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    There is more than one way to skin a cat. They are using negative offsets to lower voltage. There is no right or wrong wrong way as long as you are using the way that works best for your one-of-a-kind system Copying the settings of others often does not work well for overclocking. I run +100 offset on uncore, but if you're using running stable with zer0.n lower voltage and not use offsets, or even lower voltage with positive offsets, too. There's no right
     
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    doesnt the + add voltage? if I this machine is going over 1.3 on stock mode, wont adding all those + setttings make it even worse and make the voltage higher?
     
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    Did you give it a try first before posting?
     
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    he forgot to mention if that setting is for stock mode or for 47x
     
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    This might work for you, so give it a shot and see what happens. Try setting core voltage adaptive, 25 core and 25 turbo voltage and +25 offset. This is what I have been using for 4.7GHz. It's probably more than necessary, so use it as a starting point.

    Hummmmm...... He posted that up above....
     
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    holy crap! that on a single 980M :-O did u beat khenglish's score yet on his franken 980M?

    +420 on core, unbelieveable... :D

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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    Overall score, yes. GPU score, no. It's behind by about 300 points.
    On firestrike it's behind like 35 points.

    But it's not without his advice on how to go higher. I just had to work out some bugs first.

    Edit: Ok, now i did.

    [​IMG]

    last one for the night.....
    [​IMG]
     
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    Man, that's better than my 970m SLI on stock, pffff....
     
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    LOL, man I really screwed up that post, ha ha. Kept falling asleep while typing. Sorry, I hope it made enough sense to understand what I was saying.
     
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    Yeah, because I was thinking that was NOT you for a minute. LOL
     
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    Almost looks like a spam bot post, but it was definitely me asleep at the keyboard.
     
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    I'm already knowing.



    Ok, So i got around to running some SLI benches....
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    LOL, the picture reminded me of something.

    Know what this is? FEE FI FO, FO FI FEE FO

    Mike Tyson's phone number.
     
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    I didnt reply back because first I thought you was messing with me, secondly I thought "he wouldnt do that" s then i thought you was giving a speech at a TED conference and all those words went just way over my head.. So in layman words, i didnt understand 1 thing LOL
     
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    Maybe this will help.
     
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    Skrait nerd porn right there.
     
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    You cannot be the age you stated a few weeks earlier. Nope. Nuh unh not possible. I refuse to believe it.
    Great video , nice music \m/
     
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    isn't that song from the nightclub scene in the matrix where neo meets trinity?
     
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    Believe it, bro. ;) But, stop and think about it. Most of my favorite hard core heavy metal, hair metal and grunge icon bands are guys in their 50s or older like me. Metallica, Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, Quiet Riot, Rush, Nirvana, Warrant, White Snake, Godsmack, Def Leppard, Ronnie James Dio, Judas Priest, Scorpions, Guns and Roses, Ted Nugent, so on and so forth... most of those guys are old (or dead) now, LOL. Growling gets easier with age.



    Yes, I think you're right. "Dragula" is the name of the tune. Love the Matrix movies. Rob Zombie is pretty hardcore, that's why I like him. He's always overclocked and over-volted, LOL.

     
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    I was about to say look at where all that music came from. .. listened to a lot of that growing up as well!

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    FYI, 3DMark have just released their new DX12 bench called "Time Spy".

    My first run:
    GPU (970M): +135mhz/+200mhz/+0mv
    CPU (6700K): -50mv
    Link: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/19744

    2nd run:
    GPU (970M): +150mhz/+200mhz/+0mv
    CPU (6700K): -50mv
    Link: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/20012

    It's seemingly more intense than previous benchmarks as my old OC crashed out. I also noticed my -150mv cpu undervolt was no longer stable so running at -50mv to rule everything out. Interestingly with no overvolt on the GPU I'm not seeing any vREL or vOP warnings yet, even at +150mhz.
     
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    Cool. Was it part of an updated 3DMark benchmark update? Will have to check it out. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Yes. If you have it on steam it'll just show up as another DLC tickbox/option.

    Furthermore, "Time Spy" uses Async Compute by default as well.

    Unfortunately, 3DMark want you to pay for it (it's Free for the "demo" which forces you to run the demo mode every time and can't change options).....even if you've paid for a 3DMark License already. Scummy move, hopefully they take it back or release it properly for free.
     
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    I already own the advanced and pro versions of all 3DMark benchmarks from 2001 forward. They are much better and more flexible than the free versions. I just downloaded the newer version of 3DMark with Time Spy. For some reason the update and DLC were not installing after downloading.

    I've been waiting for Futuremark to release this, so thanks for the heads up. +Rep
     
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    I have 3DMark Advanced as well (was 50% off on Steam a while back), but you have to pay an additional $5 to unlock the full version of the Time Spy benchmark as well.

    Granted $5 is not much, it's a bit of a slap in the face to those who already paid for it.

    EDIT: New results as I creep up the GPU OC. Turns out +180mhz is as far as it'll go without extra volts. Starts getting hungry after that.

    GPU: +220mhz/+200mhz/+37.5mv
    Link: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/21631
     
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    Well, that sucks. Darn it. Seems like they have been sleeping with the goons at Micro$lop.

    Milk us some more... we've got plenty of milk to go around. Stinkers.
     
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    Nice Benchmark actually.

    Nothing special here. 2632 = 4.5Ghz , 970m +113 / 100

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13221612?

    UPDATE: AAGGRRRR BATTERY BOOST WAS ON!!! :mad:
    (i know my fault. I had to record something the other day)

    3D Mark 11 - P11497. First full bench since owning this machine. GPU still on stock voltages..
    Lol.. no one benches 970m single by the looks of things.

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11413811
     
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    Just use the @j95 driver mod and be done with that worthless pile of feces battery boost crap. You'll never need to have to care or worry again with that idotic feature turning itself on.

    I have say I am EXTREMELY unimpressed with this benchmark. For whatever reason it is totally unstable for me with any kind of GPU overclock. Keep erroring out (3DMark has stopped responding) or TDRing at random times, sometime when the benchmark has finished and trying to calculate the score. I'm chalking it up to DX12 because everything that uses DX9, 10 or 11 runs fine. It was kind of exciting that for the very first time since the Insider Windows OS X Preview I finally had ONE reason, my first ONE REASON to actually care about DX12 and it turns out to be a POS. Lovely. I hate M$... stupid bastards.
     
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    Mine seems to be running fine for the moment, but I also crashed my os a few hours ago so i reinstalled it and everything seems to be back to fine.
     
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    Only 3833 GPU score? I would've expected around the 5500-6000 mark, especially if your GPU-Z is actually correct with around 1500mhz boost clock per GPU(that's freakin insane btw...).

    Since it's a DX12 benchmark it apparently runs in Explicit LDA mode. I'm guessing that's actually only running on 1 GPU?
     
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    Same here, bought the key and the first install it did not take. the demo/full run worked, but when I tried to run without it it wouldn't work. I rebooted and let windows finish doing what it was doing and then it started working as intended. In my case that bench would not even start, but now it works fine.
     
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    I struggled with that, too. I'm uninstalling 3DMark rather that installing this as an upgrade, running CCleaner and disk check then reinstall 3DMark fro scratch and see if it works right. Hopefully, I won't be as unimpressed as I am now. It did finish one run with the GPU stock at just over 4,000 so I think SLI must be broken as well since your score is so low. So, that's nice. First DX12 benchmark that we should actually care about and SLI doesn't work. Ain't that special?
     
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    Many people are crashing on this new bench. The general consensus is that the load it generates is significantly higher than the older DX11/10/9 ones. It's more akin to Furmark type load scenario because the object and draw count is super high, although not as extreme as Furmark itself.

    Basically, most people's OC's that worked on Firestrike and Unigine are simply not stable under the heavier load. You'll need to adjust accordingly. Firestrike is actually surprisingly light on load, favouring huge overclocks that may not actually be stable when it really comes down to it.

    EDIT:

    As for SLI, Time Spy uses the DX12 EXPLICIT LDA mode. This is NOT the Nvidia SLI mode.
    In which case, what driver you run could very well break it or not allow it to function.
     
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    Sli is broken? That is only a single 980M gpu.
    And the clocks are 1502/1753


    Edit: Well it's back to crashing again. lol
     
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    I am totally unimpressed!

    upload_2016-7-15_7-55-26.png

    As I wanted it to run the first time, pretty Avast detected it as Malware and "dealt" with the problem! Since that it refuses to start, even with Avast turned off!

    Now I am stuck with this lovely "0 Score" result! :mad:
     
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    Now that kind of makes sense. Fire Strike has always been a fluffy feel-good benchmark that allows unstable overclocks to pass that fail on other things. But, I'm even having issues with the benchmark stops responding on stock clocks, so I am hoping it is just corrupt. When I tried to install the update from within 3DMark it refused to install several times, so I downloaded the whole package and installed over the original. That's why I am going to try undoing it now. Going to delete the files in the C:\ProgramData\Futuremark folder as well.

    My bad. Should have expanded the screen shot for a closer look at GPU-Z to see SLI was disabled.
     
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    Does it mean that it is? Mine's not running with SLI. Will check that with Single.

    Edit: Will do a clean install as well. Hope that helps! Firestrike is running as intended but TimeSpy sucks!!!
     
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    Nice! Ha ha. I'm glad I'm not alone. It's sad so many things we get excited about get released on launch day totally messed up lately. Maybe it's my imagination, but seems more common than it ever used to be.

    @johnksss - Catzilla 2.0 from Futuremark, LOL
     
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    No worries!

    I'm trying to run a sli bench now but it wont load the bench. Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

    edit:
    Oh man, Catzilla was not ready for prime time either, that's for sure. :D
     
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