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Testing the J95 369.05

http://www.3dmark.com/sd/4239660

Windows crap install, no optimizations.

 

You don't need all that, but what you do need is a cpu over clock for that bench.

 

Stock i7-6700K I have still the old Win Crap X install. Only disabled Telemetry and automatic driver install created by the Redmond MORONS!!

 

LOL, my Power limits were set to 38W or something for the processor. Fixed that :

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14006000

4.5Ghz.

 

I've never seen so low physics score before with a 6700K so I thought you had borrowed a NICE Crippled BGA machine with a heavy overclock on a ****ty 6820BGA

 

So Linus beat me to it :



The Core Works fine with the Stock Sager 9870-s (P870DM-G). And there dont seem to be any bottle necks other than the PCIe to TB3 overhead.

 

The question on my mind was who did he get the TB3 firmware update from?

 

He didn't, hes using the stock Intel Update provided by Sager.

I want to how much of the "driver" hassle do we have to go through with the firmware that supports eGPU's. And if the scores improve.

 

So he got it to work on stock sager BIOS?

 

Yep.

 

So even though the thunderbolt control panel says eGPUs not supported it still works?

This is good, we should be able to harness the full potential with @Prema 's BIOS

Too bad the razer core is $499. It would have been nice at $199.

 

Yeap, with the bunch of TB Options and control over PCIe in the BIOS im sure we can push it.
I think its the same scenario as with the Dell 9550, even their TB3 says eGPU not supported, but the core works just fine.

But im really not going to dump $500 on the core right now. Maybe in a month or 2, but diffidently going to test out my system with my friends core.

 

Be sure to do lots of benchmarks and comparisons in game.

It would have been perfect if you had access to a GTX 980. That way you could have compared directly with the dGPU how much the eGPU gets impacted.

 

From Linus's video i dont think there is much of an impact.
I have messaged Linus asking if he can provide his results with the NP9870-S.

Yeah, ill see if i can try to get hold of a GTX980 as well, but for that ill have to go over to SF for the week end

 

Yeah, that's all really good news. Let's hope it works as well as it sounds like from Linus' video. The Core could be good for a lot of cheap thrills when sitting at a desk. I'm pretty sure this would be about half the cost of buying a pair of 1080 GPUs and heat sinks even if they would fit. Heck, I think you could even buy the new Pascal Titan and the Core and have lots of money left over. An eGPU attached to a BGA suckbook doesn't really interest me. But, hooked up to a beast like ours, different story... maybe.

 

In worst case if you haven't money for the new Sli machine..., Buy a single 1080/heatsink for gaming on the road. Later use it with the Core and Pascal Titan for gaming home. A BGA machine will never ever replace a desktop!!

 

The new titan is a very lazy product IMO. Not even a fully enabled core and no HBM.

 

I dont think its will be about the money, more like at the cost of 2 x MXM 1080's you can get so much done. These things are just becoming absurdly priced. Maybe its just me, but id rather put those $2000+ (which the 1080's would cost approximately) and use that to assemble a proper desktop. And still end up keeping the P870DM-G with the 980DT.

 

If you can get hold of the desktop cards at the moment of course.

 

Right... I don't play the BGA suckbook games. For under $300 for a web surfing/email appliance, sure... why not. That's a good use for BGA crap and the price is appropriate.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with our beast machines right now. It's their future that is hindered. That's why I am probably going to be done with high performance laptops going forward. I'm sure that most (maybe even all) Clevo resellers had no idea this was going to play out like it did. When they found out it was probably too late for them to talk sense with Clevo to get it corrected. I would even venture a guess some of them were not in tune with the gravity of the situation until we started raising hell about it.

But, things being as volatile as they are, this is a risk for all OEMs trying to do the right thing with sockets and slots. (Wait... that would be Clevo since nobody else is doing the right thing, LOL.) There is no guarantee of an upgrade path for those that buy a brand new DM3 with 1080 SLI.

And, I probably wouldn't even buy one. I was just using it as an example because it is so absurdly overpriced. Even so, still cheaper to buy a Titan and a Core eGPU than 1080 SLI. Not as powerful as 1080 SLI most likely either... only offered as a quick comment about the costs being out of scope.

Yes... that's where I am too now. It's too late to fix our problem and that is the only option that makes good sense for us at this point. When life doles out lemons, then we can either curl up in the fetal position and poop on ourselves, or buck up and enjoy some tasty fresh-squeezed lemonade. Not ideal, but better than having to tolerate BGA crap.

 

That is another challenge on its own. I hate reference cards. And a friend of mine has been waiting for the Strix 1080 to be available for non inflated pricing for over a month now.

 

P870DM-G is still a good machine although only single 980DT. But if I sell and go for a new desktop..., A new desktop beast will cost me more than $ 7500 usd. I know what I want. I wouldn't go for a desktop without phase cooling and high end parts. My previous desktop was with phase cooling and this is the only choice for me, if I go for a new desktop. 1080/Heatsink for my P870 will be less expensive right now. And I still prefer portability and will loose this if I sell my beast. And why buy a new almost same P870 as I already have now? There will come new tech like processor, chipset and whatever eg new ssd tech aka Optane very soon for P870. What then??? Better with upgrade new Graphics this time than buying a new same soon EOL machine.

 

But will you spend $1200 + VAT for a new gpu ?

 

$ 1200 or even a bit more + Vat is better than use + $4750 on a new similar model with almost same tech. I know you get 1080 Sli, but the rest is soon EOL. Be finish with Kaby Lake, and If Clevo will offer a 6 core maybe I will go for it. Nearly $ 5000 now isn't the correct choice for me. But that's me Upgrade my P870 with a single 1080 and save money for next tech is something I will consider strongly The other and probably much smarter choice... Build A new desktop is very expensive, but better than buying a new P870.

 

Desktops are fun. But there's something special about having a portable beast.

 

Yeap, thats one of the reasons why ill hang onto this system.

 

HBM2 shouldnt enhance the performance too much. GP102 is just GP104 x 1.5 and its have 50% memory bandwidth.

 

Exactly, it needed more to justify that price tag. It's smaller than GP100 thanks to little double precision yet I think they should be the same size so around 5000 shaders.

 

Well we arent getting that chip until next year due to yields then and we will probably need 14ghz gddr5x or hbm2.
Still though, titan xp is breaking the 1000usd mark and a 8 GPC chip would be insane.

 

New record from the old lady Clevo W860CU (i7-920xm) in Cinebench R11.5 - 5.50 pts
Installed O&O ShutUp10 for removing undesirable garbage from the Windows 10 Anniversary Update. It was quite obvious that something is stealing clock cycles with last Crap from the Redmond Morons. Otherwise, no big change in performance with latest beta vs earlier versions Win Crap X from Micro$haft
http://hwbot.org/submission/3285586...003_core_i7_920xm_5.5_points?recalculate=true


Some testing with 368.69. Total score with this driver is not much to brag about. But the physics score is pretty good
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9726604

 

That is a pretty nice jump for 100Mhz!

 

It annoy me that physics does not provide very much in Fire Strike. + That this driver may not be the best for total score. I can try later when I have more time

 

Yeap, 3DMark just wants to fluff the field.
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/9224955/fs/9221543

 

Now lets up the anti....

Edit:
People were complaining about physics adding to much to the benchmarks, that's why it doesn't count for as much as you want it too...We can't have it both ways.
Edit:
@Papusan Did you overclock the vram or is that stock?

 

Stock graphics. Only overclocked processor. I can't remember I have run stock clock on processor Futuremark know about BGA. Maybe therefore they created 3DM suite the way it is

Server problem at HWBOT. But new Wprime 32M - 4.154 sec score for the leader board @Phoenix
http://hwbot.org/submission/3285645_papusan_wprime___32m_core_i7_6700k_4sec_154ms?recalculate=true

 

Nope. More like AMD users at the time. And the bench was 3dmark vantage. When 3dmark11 came out they changed it. Nothing to do with BGA i'm afraid.

 

Yet another new and better Wprime 32M - 4.148 sec score for the leaderboard @Phoenix
For first time under 4.150 sec as I said I could manage in earlier post
http://hwbot.org/submission/3285647_papusan_wprime___32m_core_i7_6700k_4sec_148ms?recalculate=true

Spoiler: As I said in previous post. Under 4.150 sec :)

 

Can anyone suggest & share settings for a good 980m SLI OC for my laptop? Specs are in my sig.

 

What have you already tried?

 

Nothing. Just so you know where I'm coming from: I chose 4.5GHz as the stopping point for my CPU, because I am not rich & don't plan to delid, or do anything to that extent, that I would deem too risky. The CPU OC I am using is from Mr. Fox. I tried his 4.2, 4.4, then 4.5GHz OC settings and I've been quite happy. Back to my GPUs though... I've never OCed them & am just looking to get a bit more out of them, as I did with the CPU. Haven't found much specifically about OCing 980m SLI in this baby, as it appears to me at least that people are more interested in OCing the 6700K CPU. I play FFXIV mostly at 75 FPS w/G-SYNC & am just looking to see if OCing a little may solidify my FPS a little better. In high grass areas for example it can take a little bit of a noticeable dip. WIthout the in-game frame cap set (which I usually have set at 75), I average about 106 FPS.

 

Try setting voltage to 1.075 and +100 Core / + 200 Memory. See if that will raise your frames without really raising the heat. Set power to max for the mean time...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/average-980m-overclock.776542/

If all goes well and it should then keep moving the core up by 10 mhz till it crashes. Once it crahsers, back off 10 mhz and you will have you over clock for 1.075V

 

You can start just by increasing the core clock offset by +100mhz and memory by +200mhz

 

Decided to have some fun in Heaven:

Stock 980:



OC 980 (+220mhz/+300mhz):

 

The Physics score is representation of cpu impact in gaming which can be fairly muted.

 

(250/500 - 4.9 GHz) Fire Strike 14060P http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9769361

 

I would. I've purchased from them in the past. They'll bend over backwards to accommodate your requests and continue to do so after sales - extremely refreshing "yes we can" attitude. Not to mention of your an international customer they are the best in the business in my experience.

 

I like their extensive offerings. If you do not mod and want the fastest you can without the work, they are where I'd go. Silicon lottery delidded CPU, pretty sure they do CLU, etc. I don't know your experience, use level, or comfort (no offense), it if you have the money and just want to be lazy as they max out your system (no judgment), but their are things you can get there....

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Whose post are you replying to? I'm not disagreeing, just trying to connect the dots.

I will third the motion. HIDevolution is awesome. Reach out to @Ted@HIDevolution or @Donald@HIDevolution for a quote. One of the reasons they are awesome is because they are a @Prema partner shop. I think you can drop the "G" at the end of the model name. G-sync should be obsolete and serve no useful purpose on a high refresh rate screen. There won't be any reason for Clevo to waste money on the NVIDIA licensing scam, so it is a win for everyone except NVIDIA.

 

Papusan a few posts up complaining about the lack of overall increase with physics score.

 

Stock GPU and x42 CPU only, not too bad with graphics score of 19979



One power brick, easy over clock.....x42 cpu and +125 on the GPUS at stock prema voltage.