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Welcome back. As soon as I can sell my 880M cards I will be getting a replacement for my broken 980M and joining you with 980M SLI benchmarks.

 

That's up to you. I told him $1200.00 for mine. Motherboard alone new is 600 and you can't even find used.
Edit: Actually I do have a used motherboard, but I never got around to retesting it.

If I break my system apart, i'll keep you in mind at the top of the list.

 

Awesome. Thank you.

 

So, the MB is about $500, screen, heatsinks, and case (upper and lower with screen encasement). If pieced out, it is worth more, but that is because of age and limited replacement parts. Granted, this allows you to sell your cpu, gpux2, and ram for market value. Check what the lowest going rate for each component is. Add those to the $650 and ask yourself whether that is reasonable for a laptop of its age while looking at that amount, including the cost of time to sell the other components at a discount (time value of money/inventory multiplied by the risk on receiving that value, hence selection of the lowest market price to reduce time and risk), plus the additional capital needed to purchase a replacement. If this is within what you consider fair, then it is a fair price. If not, or the work conducted with it in the interim is more valuable, then you have your answer.

Edit: go with @johnksss number on the motherboard of $600. I was estimating out of production boards, but did not verify this specific component price.

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You could be right on the lower end board with the 60hz screen.

Added:
1200 can be negotiable, but with the right people. 6 buys and from china kind of throws up a red flag or two. Along with shipping to a friends address..

 

This is the main reason I don't have my Panther any more. Awesome machine and loved it to pieces, but if you can't buy replacement parts it's time to let it go. A fancy door stop does nobody any good and the moment it is non-functional it loses value massively.

My 880M cards have been sold to losers three times on eBay. First two never paid and the last scammer tried reporting me to eBay for not shipping them and asked for a refund even though I never got paid, LOL. Thankfully, eBay believed me instead of the scammer. It's not a safe place and caution is advised. I NEVER trust a stranger on eBay no matter what the feedback looks like.

 

I only ran into one scammer so far. And that was on craigslist. Where the guy tried to send his girlfriend over with a 900W ups backup.
Strike one: He sent his girlfriend or wife.
Strike two: Do you know how much this thing weighs? Allot!
Strike three: They plugged in a cell phone charger in the back and the fault light came on. And told me that means it's working.

I plugged it into my 120V power socket running from the benz and of course it did not power on. I laughed and drove off.

 

I had that as a purchaser. I paid, but they shipped to New York. I filled a grievance, but eBay had to wait for confirmation of arrival. Just tied up my money for a week or two. The seller tried reporting me to eBay after I contacted him to resolve the matter, on refund or delivery, and eBay had the decision for me in less than a day. I followed their rules precisely and won.

Gotta watch for scammers. You should have saw eBay when it first started. 3 pages is all they had. My dad bought a 1GB hdd and the guy sent a brick. My dad paid with a cashier's check that could be cancelled instead of a money order (COD). So my dad had a brick and the scammer got nothing! Lol! Love life lessons (trust no one)!!!

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DONT INSTALL Latest version CC v5.0001.0.73!!
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...u-entry-come-from.794904/page-2#post-10314891

 

Hey guys i decided to order another 1tb wd blue 5400rpm for my machine. I was wondering how to raid them and will i notice the performance improvement? or is it really minor improvement? i got this particular model https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C9TEBJQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

What do you intend to do with it? Raid will help with sequential speeds in raid 0. You may as well but may need to re-install windows if you are not already in raid mode in the bios. Windows can also do a non bootable software raid with the caveats of pure software solutions. This does not care about bios settings though so is easy.

 

I know it will get beaten by more serious people pretty soon and its not laptop, but still seeing my name on there makes me feel pretty happy and I feel like posting it!

http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/fire+strike+3dmark+score+ultra+preset/version+1.1/1+gpu

 

That insane core clock tho. Previously clocks like that were only possible on LN2 .

 

can somebody lend me a hand at this issue? It's going on my nerves lately and i just can't find a fix for it. It seems my CPU throttles for no reason, i already dumbed down my OC from 4.4Ghz to 4.2Ghz and already set the Power Targets to 250W and the Amps to 250A in the Bios, i know it worked before but now that i use the Notebook more due to work i noticed the throttling is back. Is it a hardwarelimitation of the P771DM? I know that you P870DM guys had the same issues and i researched a bit and found a info that Premas EC seemed to fix it for you. I already have the magic bios too, but it doesn't matter what i change .... it's just frustrating, i already tried to uninstall CCC and don't use XTU, Throttlestop doesn't even work somehow, at least the only thing which works is when i set the OC Ratio to x40 the CPU get's to x40 but the main Multiplier option ... big nope.

What happens is that when playing WoW my CPU Ratio randomly drops to x39 x36 and so on, then the Limit toggles like in the screenie are going to "No" then the ratio back up again to x42 and the same repeats over and over. When stress testing CPU alone absolutely no issues.

 

Do a NVRAM reset(clear cmos battery). Load default settings. Restart your machine, go into bios and try the Oc settings in first page into this thread. Start with a moderate Oc first. If everything works well, make higher Oc with Throttlestop.

 

Will try that again, i did that procedure actually after installing the bios, but somehow its like before again, don't wanna get my Valkyrie as a turdbook emulator with that throttling lol

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Edit: sadly it's still the same

Edit2: according to "Limit Reasons" from Throttlestop the limit reason (lol) is RING EDP, it's yellow then red, which is limit ofc then boom x42 to x40 to x3x and back up again.

 

I suppose you remembered to delete the ThrottleStop.INI file and restart ThrottleStop after you reset bios. Same problem with stock settings and without Oc? I can't remember if Limit Reason work correctly with Skylake.

 

yes and yes, it's the same with stock but mostly it just disables turbo then i guess, like going from stock turbo x40 to x36 then stays at about x39 with the same limit reasons within HWInfo

Edit: Overwatch seems fine, balanced profile it stays at x39, with High Performance it's at x42, the Clevo Control Center doesn't to anything when changing between High Performance and Entertainment. Even tried now to set RING Amps up to 250A + set the Voltage Limit there for testing to 1500mV, weird weird bug, Throttlestop still doesn't want to change the multipliers even after reinstalling the 2nd time, but "Disable Turbo" works

It's not like my book is bad or something performancewise but it's still a thorn in my eye when i see it throttling without a valid reason, wanted to get the delid to use and push some 4.4-4.5Ghz into her, before i probably opt for an P870DM2/3 with 1070/1080.

 

Voltages seem to be high. At least that those mean. I had those when OC'ing to 4.9Ghz and i had too much voltage set up.

 

already at -125mV, tried static voltage but doesn't seem to do anything :/ funny was that on my old ZM it was more or less set and forget

 

Alright so first questions :

- What are you using to set the voltages? XTU or BIOS? If its XTU and you have Prema BIOS, get rid of XTU asap.
- Once you get rid of XTU, reset BIOS. And start over.
- If possible take a picture / screenshot of XTU and the settings in the BIOS that you have changed and post it here.

 

Prema Bios only
already did as some posts above, didn't work sadly
will do asap, just have to get to my car bring the my Valkyrie outside (that sentence almost ended badly luckly i read it twice before post)

 

ok took a bit longer but here the gallery, it isn't in order tho fresh uploaded

https://imgur.com/a/L22lM

 

I would disable RSR tbh.
Also under the Under Processor OC, set Max OC Ratio to 42 as well.

And reset all VR Current settings to default for now.

 

ok will try that

ok still the same throttling at least in WoW, goes to x42 Multi then drops to x40 then to randomly x36-x39 and stays a bit there then goes up to x40 -> x42 and the same repeats.

RING: Max VR Voltage, ICCmax, PL4
IA: Electrical Design Point/Other (ICCmax,PL4,SVID,DDR RAPL)

Limit reasons like some older posts of mine. Tried even deactivating Hardware P-States but then my CPU is stuck at x40

edit: ok stupid theory but could it be my GPU? cause i just lowered the ingame graphics settings and the Limit Reason vanished, i then upped only CPU intensive settings and still good, but if i'm e.g. up my Shadows from low to Ultra High + HBAO then boom limit reasons is back. Weird tho is even when upping the settings, my GPU load right now is only at 70% with about average 98W

 

This is really weird.

Lets do this. Will you be able to do a full CMOS/NVRAM reset? Like take out the CMOS battery and the system battery, unplug the system and keep the power button pressed for about 10 seconds. Then press it again a few times. Leave the system like this for 5 mins and put the batteries back in.

And once that is done go into the BIOS and set it up like this :

Processor Max OC Ratio - 42
Offset - (-125)
Ring Max OC Ration - 42
Offset - (-125)

In CPU section :

All power / turbo to 250000
Intervals @ 1ms
and Core multiplier to 42.

And make doubly sure that XTU is uninstalled.

 

will try tomorrow, have to get up at 5AM again so i will quit for today, but thanks @bloodhawk @Papusan for your help so far. XTU is vanished from my SSD as far as i know, i uninstalled it a long time ago, could it somehow be that some leftovers are there? Oh and btw why does "balanced" power profile in windows sets my CPU to max x39 even when fully stress testing and set 100% min/max in the control panel, and "high performance" works at x42, i dunno why but the back of my head the word Intel Management Engine is somehow tingeling.

 

Wait, so when you set it to High Performance the clocks hold ? Even during WoW?

 

nah but at least the CPU tries to get to x42, here's a screenie and look at the clocks on the left side of the HWINFO

 

Gotcha. Do the full reset tomorrow. And set it up as i mentioned in the post above and lets see if that works.

 

i hope it will, like i said i actually did that today with @Papusan and was still a no-go, the P771DM and the P870 share almost the same power delivery right? and to better explain my multi issue completely simple.

balanced CPU Min/Max 100%/100% Max Multiplier on CPU x39
high performance CPU Min/Max 100%/100% Max Multiplier on CPU x42

i know it's weird and normally i'm pretty good in OCing and knowledgeable but this is really confusing af. I could try reinstalling W10 fresh again maybe that helps. It really feels like something interfering with my OC.

 

The CMOS reset that i mentioned is different from the load defaults that you do in the BIOS. This clears everything.

And the Balanced power profiles and High Performance are setup to be like that and you can change it in the Power settings.

 

so is it a Skylake thing then? On my desktop e.g. if i set under balanced min/max 100% it stays 4.5Ghz same when setup the thing in powersave and high performance profile.

e.g. some screens not that we are miscommunicating


balanced 100% both as you can see, max x40 multiplier when stress testing tho with quick WPrime e.g. it boosts to x42, but ingame it stays most of the time x39.


high performance 100% both, x42 multiplier everytime and everywhere even when i lower the idle Percentage to 5%, and tries to stay x42 only when the throttling gets active it gets 42>38>36>39>40>42

 

I have a feeling the full CMOS/NVRAM power drain reset should fix this. Otherwise we shall go deeper

 

well can we even go deeper , i think the next thing is really reinstalling and pray to gaben.

 

I've had this exact problem before. What you should do is delete the ThrottleStop.ini then a cmos reset. Start your overclock from scratch again. Sometimes things get goofed without a good reason.

 

Ok did everything CMOS Reset/NVRAM completely reset, put the power values in x42 multi like @bloodhawk suggested, still the same ****, firing up x264 stress test is fine and no throttling, starting up WoW and just stay in Stormwind boom Throttling again 42>40>38>40>42 and repeat. @TBoneSan good thing is that Throttlestop now works i can set the multipliers myself.

 

Does still happen if you reset everything to stock ?
As in if you run the processor at stock speeds and stock voltage ?

 

Have you tried to raise all limits in bios?
BTW. @unclewebb work on a new Limit Reasons tool. I do not think the old one work properly with Skylake.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-491#post-10323542

 

@Papusan, yes i tried that yesterday sadly with the same unsatisfying results.
@bloodhawk and yes just tried everything at stock still the same but with 2 more throttling reasons, namely Max Turbo and Turbo Attenuation

 

Have you tried with voltage overide? Try with and without c states.

 

There might be something else wrong here.
Do you have access to your PreMA BIOS files ?
If so , I would make dos USB drive and reflashed the BIOS. AND then check if the throttling still there at stock.
If it's still there, it might be hardware.

 

will try that

sure i have them, i will reflash then, then try reinstalling Windows. Cause like i said CPU only is fine, i even tried a quick x264 run at 4.5Ghz without any issues and no throttling at all. Could it even be game related, only thing i don't get is, how can a game control the Turbo so hard?

 

+ up a bit with all limits. Next step is as @bloodhawk said.

 

@Scerate are you overclocking with static or adaptive voltage?

Try the opposite one of what you have and see if that makes a difference.
Use @Mr. Fox videos he make as a guide. The older video is using static and the newer one is using adaptive.

 

tried static voltage, doesn't to anything, i set 1050mV in bios and deactivated C-States completely and according to HWinfo and Throttlestop still at 1.29v, doesn't even change when under idle, load or i force multipliers with Throttlestop.

normally i only used offset cause i already noticed static isn't working in retrospective it worked flawless with my old ZM NB and the 4790k where i put in fixed 1.09v and activated cstates and was good to go.

Can't say for sure the lower static voltage get's applied to, i can only see the VID and doesn't reflect the real voltage.

edit: ok don't think static/adaptive is working, i just set the voltage to 0.8v = 800mV and still goes strong @ stock turbo x40

 

ok will go the reinstall route, i redid the cmos/nvram reset, set everything up again like in the OP and started a different game, Guild Wars 2 my CPU killer and there is the same as in WoW, boosts to x42 or x40 (depends if i use balanced power plan or high performance power plan) and throttles down to about x38 slowly goes up to x40 and down again you know the drill

 

Static voltage gives me crazy high temps, Skyflake likes adaptive voltage then you just apply the offset and you're done. I use a -30 MV offset for core/ ring on my 4.5 GHZ overclock

 

I set the input voltage at 2.000V and that helps reduce the amount of fluctuation. Refer to the videos mentioned by @TBoneSan

 

huh? that doesnt make sense...u cant just set to static and be done with it *lol* ull have to manually test, tweak and find the lowest stable voltage at a given frequency. ive found that static actually gives u lower temps since u can reach way lower stable voltages at a given multi compared with adaptive. with my 4790K the difference is in the range of approx. 50mV....

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