Clevo W870CU Review With ATI 5870m

We have until March and April for anything regarding the card from Nvidia.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5707724&postcount=53
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5738099&postcount=2695

 

so far...the 480 is doing tessellation and dx11 better than a 5870...but then...that's the consumer (us) testing against them (nvidia)...just waiting for someone to pop up with a real 480 or 470 for testing.

 

Guilty as charged for those statements. I was being more optimistic than was warranted by his hints at the show. Well if nothing comes BEFORE summer then I was taken for a ride ...

 

It's not your fault. We are all to blame. Speculating on future hardware was never my forte anyway. I'll stick to the trade I've been doing ever since; trolling, and resolving tech issues and myths.

I have to say that we were all drawn into CeBIT by several hints. But a June release seems like the best shot we have right now. I really do hope it rocks the sock off of the MR 5870, and that I get it before these other f*gs do because I hate waiting for out of stock products.

 

You kill me SS.
You can have the first one

 

Thanks to all who have contributed on this thread, I as sick of waiting for a G73. Ken Lee recommended this as an alternative and since I just cashed in my Ford stock, this looks like a good way to go. Does anyone know If I order a single hard drive, will the system come with the needed brackets if I wish to upgrade to one SSD and one conventional HD or 2 SSD's.
Thanks for the quick response Moo, I will email him in the AM. Great review BTY, thanks for helping me make up my mind!

 

it only fits 2 HD's but imagine if you ask Ken he will come through

 

lol
that world record dont count till you complete the full vantage run.

 

Lol I can easily

CPU is Stock

Also note i said GPU world recored

 

Being able to brag on a complete run is SOOOO much better Moo

 

Im doing some OC with the CPU now to add into the equation so we will see what i can come up with on the overall score....

Highest score on GPU has been 9700 before it locks so 10,000 is not looking good ATM...

So i guess ill just shoot for the overall highscore instead ... Till i get bored which wont be much longer ....

 

it is exciting until your scores plateau out...is why I have not been benching much lately haha

 

you already know what i mean.
you ain't funny!


quad
you need to get it colder!
these new 5000 series gpus can run pretty hard on super cold air.
main thing i to keep the vrm and memory cool

 

I know that this is going to sound like a newbie question, but I am a newbie. Are you guys testing the Clevo W870CU or the Sager NP8760? Are these exactally the same machines? When I look at either Gentech or XOTIC, they list both names on this computer.

And it looks like you guys have the i7 720s, but on the GenTech and XOTIC sites, they only offer it with either the 820 or 920 i7s (820 is standard). Is this something that can be downgraded (and is it worth downgrading if I can)?

Thank you,

NightBandit

 

Heres an 06 and my best overall Vantage....

 

Very nice...show the potential of this card. Could I ask what were your settings for that score?

 

Hi and welcome,
Yes both notebooks you stated are the same, sager = clevo and visa versa. Some people have made barabones of the 870 allowing them to put what they want in them, im sure the 870 will take the i7-720QM if you so desire. I think it is just the resellers choice to have the i7-820 as the stock CPU.

Please correcy me if im wrong.

 

For the 06 it was 24x on all 4 cores and 900/1100

For Vantage it was 24/24/22/22 and 900/1100

24x4 in Vantage and OCing the GPU makes the screen go black even on Jane Nash so i can only assume the PSU just cant hang....

Well my fun is done i think lol..... It was good while it lasted but that was enough for me and ill just watch everyone else go crazy when they get the systems ...

 

We at least need somebody to do some benches with a bigger PSU like SS has, I may try a bigger one in a while...

 

9941 On the GPU


SOOOO close.... its sitting in the freezer right now ... I am inside on the desktop

 

If i could find an alternative PSU then i might give it more effort but as it stands i dont want to kill my PSU just to get some higher numbers ...

I have a 180w Lite on PSU here but the Amperage is totally different then then Clevo one so i wont be trying that one ....

Soviets PSU seems like a great thing but he clearly knows what hes doing when it comes to assembling one and i would never even attempt such a feat lol...

Moo is up to the task of all this and maybe he will get an i7 920 and then go even more crazy then he already has, like sitting out in the 20 degree weather with the machine half taken apart all in hopes of reaching the top of the hill... but myself? well yeah that wont be happening lol...

 

I've retired from benchmarking after I realized that it is nothing more than setting a few parameters on a notebook and pressing a button and repeating again with a few changes and/or different drivers. This epiphany came to me almost a year ago when I still kept the M570TU project under wraps and I was benching it using unorthodox methods. Benchmarking takes no skill, rather just a lot of free time. However, I can acknowledge that the failure to overclock the system further in you guys' cases is because of the lack of power reserves.

 

Correct. One of the reasons why a PSU with a different voltage may not work is the extra load the MOSFET's and ferrite cores on the mainboard as they have to transform and regulate a different input voltage and current than what they are designed to. It's all about balance here. My knowledge in EE isn't as focused, but I just have a tendency to take a conservative stance towards a decision until I further immerse myself in understanding it first. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5936200&postcount=1248

However, I do believe that your 180W Lite-On will work without problems. Amperage is only a measure of how much current will be available to the motherboard. It's the voltage that we should be more concerned about. The rating for DC input might just be only for the PSU and not the recommended input for the mainboard, which can vary. It never hurts to try.

 

exactly why i moved to desktop benching. ill bench a laptop don't get me wrong...but no where near the options you have benching dt's.

 

don't all the clevo's use the same power plug?

if so you could just grab the 220w for the D900f/D901c and use it here instead of the dinky 120 watt one

 

Different plug style on the X8100/M98nu... Not sure about the D900 though ....

 

I've had to wire fans and stuff

....I just can't walk away so close... wanna br that Guy that does it first

 

The D900F and M980NU/X8100 use a four pin input, a standard of the Deutsches Institut fur Normung (DIN) body. Essentially, it is the same as a standard barrel center pole, but the cathode and anode are dual terminating for some reason that DIN can explain. The PSU for the D900F and M980NU/X8100 cannot be used with the other Clevo notebooks as the DC plugs are physically incompatible.

 

9981......

Hummmm

 

Right. This basically means that the person that lives in the coldest region, or has access to an actively refrigerated room, will theoretically have the "best" score providing that the notebooks being compared are of the same hardware. With desktops, the options for cooling and the different configurations they can be setup in are almost infinite and is ultimately an artform. With notebooks, the best we can do is stick a slab of plastic with little fans whirring underneath. Going beyond that would involve removing the backpanel, or removing the motherboard altogether and operate the "notebook" on a piece of cardboard with a cheap 20'' Lasko fan from Walgreens to cool it. Perhaps even mounting a few desktop heatsinks on it to get it cool. But I doubt anyone can consider that benching a notebook anymore. I don't feel like injecting anymore desktop related methods into the notebook world so I'll stop here.

For me, I just overclock for practicality now. Suicide runs and dangerous clocks are a thing of the past for me. Just like WoW, some people can dive headfirst so deep into it that it consumes the real reasons as to why they bought that notebook in the first place. They would spend so much time every day benching and benching that in the end, that 15 minutes of fame and e-peen on the forum would be worth it for them, almost like a godsend rush of victory. As for monetary loss, I'm not going to go into.

Desktops is the only place where "sport" overclocking should reside. It's the hardware and software diversity in a collective that makes overclocking worth while, not how one can get the highest score from a platform that is acutely limited and that every "competitor" is using the same cookie-cutter method to get there.

Desktops is the only place where "sport" overclocking should reside. It's the hardware and software diversity in a collective that makes overclocking worth while, not how one can get the highest score from a platform that is acutely limited and that every "competitor" is using the same cookie-cutter method to get there.

 

Next up:

Ln2

 

Lol to you Moo

And I hear you soviet... I have slowed down immensely on the benching...once I get my high scores I just sit back for the most part

Once I get the water loop in my desktop done though, then I can do some REAL competitive benching

 

1 last run and I'm done: ) for good

 

problem with that is...you can take the d900f and put a ln2 or dice or homemade water blocks on the cpu and gpu....and skys the limit...lol. below zero and you dont need any where near the normal voltage for extreme cpus...one of the few reasons why they cost so much

but if you break it....3 grand up in smoke....

get to it...in your case you can just use phase

yeah, we waiting on ya scook!

 

Yes. The bounds for cooling any machine is limitless if one can dip their hands into the resources. But it's really impractical and expensive. The same can apply for anything else. For example, a lot of people on the Corvette C6 forums tune their machines from the ground up from swapping out T-plates to splicing in extra girthy fuel rails to changing the air/fuel intake ratio, all of which are beautiful on the dyno, but an impractical waste for street, while all I have done on my C6 is upgrade my air filters with wide hats with shroud. For my notebook, I've gone a little bit more extensive, but it still constitutes as a usable notebook that I can toss in my bag and use without having extra tear down and setup steps, or worry about overheating. I've seen the benching clocks for the MR 5870 for the G73 in the Asus forum. I can bet anyone that they don't have the balls to make any of the top five highest achieved clocks their primary clockset. However, setting the clocks a bit lower to a safer range will make it good to go. I know that my GTX 285M is completely stable up to 82*C on a clockset of 680/1700/1020 @ 1.05v. Hypothetically speaking, if I push the core/shader beyond 700/1750, my temperature ceiling would be low enough to be within the potential load temps, meaning that I would most likely see instability and failure within a few minutes of gametime. Going back to reality, this is probably true, though I never tested it. Nevertheless, 700/1750 is only ~3% faster in raw horsepower compared to 680/1700, but the consequences that follow it aren't practical when used as primary clocks that are intended to be used in varying conditions.

 

Here it is ladys and Gentlemen:

I present the UBer GPU ♥♥♥♥


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Native


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now that's what im talking about!! great job moo!

i have only built two cars
87 monte carlo (lowrider)

and a 91 lexus ls400 (luxury)
and both had mounted laptops running part of the entertainment systems.

nothing as fancy as a corvette

and over clocking is a sport or hobby...just like any other sport.....only this one is a very expensive one to keep up with.. world recognition, but not very much money to be had...lol

 

nice moo

beat e-wrecked 3870's score.

 

I admit crude but effective

If only i could use my cooler @ subway that stays @ a nice -10F

 

Congrats MOo Hahaha......

 

The_Moo™. Do you have a picture of the label on the bottom of your PSU?

 

no but i do now

 

Thank you, sir. +1 rep for you.

 

now that's what im talking about!!
extreme cooling!
+rep when i can.

 

In the end, I don't condone extreme overclocking on notebooks. For the masses of new overclockers, using a notebook as a platform isn't the place to start. But there always has to be "those" few people for whatever reason they have, whether it is to fill a lost hole in their heart or whatnot, to overclock on the notebook. In every circle, there will always be people that are willing to put their chips on the table if they see that the seat at the top of the mountain is vacant. But you are right. The world of overclocking in general doesn't have much pocket payoff compared to other sports, nor is it very populated. Very, very few people ever make it pro in overclocking and actually get companies to back them. For us, it's just a really expensive hobby that is worth spending weeks eating dried noodles for.

 

Xotic, m8.

And congrats on the freezerscore Brilliant, albeit crude. And I must say, sandwhiching the PSU between 2 pieces of meat.. Well, I lol'd

Also, you reached those clocks on the 120W PSU? I thought you'd need a beefier one to reach those clocks..

 

different strokes for different folks is all i can say..

 

Awesome, simply awesome.

 

Good job Moo! Keep going! First one to 11K overall!!

 

Has anyone measured idle and load power consumption on the W870CU?