**M570TU/ETU (Sager 5796/5797) Owners Thread**

How do you know it's not the original BIOS?

Another interesting thing...check the video memory ammount the VMT writes under Vista (VMT doesn't recognise the VGA in safe mode) on 2 different drivers:

 

There is only one released BIOS version for the MXM 2.1 GTX 280M's. All of us M570TU users that have the GTX 280M have the same BIOS that was released in January.

 

i know that is not the original because the clocks and voltage is changed. i have a backup of my original vbios but i dont really know how to identify a original vbios

 

Use common sense, jupapri.

 

common sense is the less est common of the senses Ss lol. i just don't know how to identify lol

 

My god. Sometimes I wonder why some people even have Clevo's. This is how I save my many BIOS files. For my GTX 280M files, I make a folder called GPU BIOS\GTX 280M\M570TU\Original\MMDDYY. I would name my original BIOS 060A.bin and a second copy called 060A.rom. Any modded copies that I make would go into GPU BIOS\GTX 280M\M570TU\Test\MMDDYY. Modded copies would have either the suffix "X" to denote that it is experimental, or "P" to denote that it is the primary BIOS I currently have flashed. The filenames would be called 060AX1.rom, 060AX2, 060AX3.rom, and so on depending on how many iterations I create. However, there would only be one 060AP.rom.

My GPU BIOS folder is structured like this so that it is kept neat and easily accessible without confusion of which BIOS is the original. For most users, they can come up with a simpler way for setting up a "system" that works, but for me, I have collected dozens and dozens of GPU BIOS over the years, all the way back to the 6 series to now, and both desktop and mobile versions, so I have no choice but to keep it clean.

 

Ss. i understand that but i think that Drevan was talking about the installed vBios i know that you change the name of the file but for example if you take my notebook and flash it. how i would realize that the Vbios is different.

By the way. i love your sarcasms lol

 

You wouldn't be able to tell since the modded BIOS came from the original BIOS. You as a human being must keep track of what BIOS you have flashed at all times.

 

Okay tests are done, and the log file is too large to post. Can I assume that with 726 errors that Sager gave me a bad replacement, or didn't replace it in the first place?

 

if you are running that test on windows 7 x64 i would think again on the reliability of those results. if your gpu doesn't have bad symptoms like colors interlaced and bsod every time you start a 3D application don't worry

 

Seems for me that is not OS related, it is driver related. Every driver for me which is above 179.27 gives errors or say Test not supported. And I can't test it in safe mode because VMT doesn't recognise the VGA and in DOS mode the program only can test max 512MB vram

But I still don't understand why isn't VMT work properly for some of us ...

 

What we are looking for are errors. It's okay if our cards cannot run unsupported tests on VMT.

 

Hey, did u try to use the original drivers for nVidias Homepage?
i use the 186.91 is very stable and the carddriver didn´t crach while overclocking.

 

I am using Sager's 187.62 VGA driver atm. With Sager's driver it sas for all tests that they are not supported, with the NVdia driver it gives errors. Games work fine. Only found the Sager 179.27 to be able to run all VMT tests (except for 2) without errors. Strange.

 

had the same problem with 191.xx , now i use for nVidia and no probs.

is your 187.62 fo x64, if so could u upload, i´m interested to test onmy system
thx

 

I'm using XP PRO SP3, and I have a bad gaming experience of odd shapes, colors and otherwise unplayable results.

This, after sending to Sager and having them try to fix it. They claimed they replaced the VGA card, which I'm sure is the same as the gpu.

 

If you can, always put some unnoticeable mark with a marker on the components that need to be replaces when you send your system in for repairs.
Helps a lot in avoiding situations like these.

 

is somebody run that test without errors on windows 7 x64 and drivers 18x.xx and 190.xx?????

 

i´ve got a Q9000 for 150€, so i can tell you in a few days.
my clevo is build end October 08 with 3.0B

 

I decide to re do the test with new drivers. I uninstalled all NV drivers (179 something), rebooted, ran driver sweeper, rebooted, and installed 185.85, rebooted and then ran the test again. Here are the results.

Changing video mode to 640x480x16...OK
[11/1/2009 12:52:29 PM] Test started for "Primary Display Driver (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280M)"...
Trying 16bpp RGB:565 mode...OK
Trying 16bpp RGB:555 mode...OK
Trying 16bpp BGR:565 mode...NOT SUPPORTED (Code: 88760091)
Trying 32bpp RGB:888 mode...OK
Trying 32bpp BGR:888 mode...OK
Error at [3D8CDF54]: must be 55555555, but found 55555551 (bits: 00000000000000000000000000000100)
[11/1/2009 1:16:09 PM] Pass completed (1 errors found).

 

Did you try 179.27 (from Sager) too? I'm currently using 187.62 from Sager, games work fine, but VMT gives this:

Changing video mode to 640x480x16...OK
[2009.11.02. 11:43:19] Test started for "Primary Display Driver (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280M)"...
Trying 16bpp RGB:565 mode...OK
TEST FAIL (Code: 8876017C)
Trying 16bpp RGB:555 mode...OK
TEST FAIL (Code: 8876017C)
Trying 16bpp BGR:565 mode...NOT SUPPORTED (Code: 80004001)
Trying 32bpp RGB:888 mode...OK
TEST FAIL (Code: 8876017C)
Trying 32bpp BGR:888 mode...NOT SUPPORTED (Code: 80004001)
NO PASS COMPLETED

 

Could some1 please check how much mb of video ram does the Vantage System Info exactly write for his 280M?

 

btw, I found this comment from the author of VMT (don't know the date of posting): "There is some problems with nvidia drivers above 182.50 version. I have no time and hardware to debug this problem. If somebody can, welcome to sourceforge!"

So that's that.

 

Very interesting. However, we do still have the ability to diagnose our GPU memory using 179, 180, and lower 182 drivers.

 

We do? How do you diagnose it? I haven't seen an option for it...

Just saw the link you posted a few pages back. it doesn't seem to work anymore...

Can you please tell me where to download this test?

I really need to test my GPU memory I think something is broken.

Thanks.

 

Can't we just use.... you know OCCTP ?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5368028&postcount=1145

 

Not all 179, 180 and 182 drivers work 100% in VMT neither btw, 187.62 only gives Test fail and not supported messages (0 errors) during DirectX test, Cuda test works perfectly

 

That's because some of the 179, 180, and 182 drivers are junk.

 

Sweet thanks

 

Sorry to bump this up, but is there any shops still selling this laptop? Wanted to get a good deal.

 

This notebook has been discontinued for quite a while now and all the remaining units have been shelved as spare parts for current M570TU users.

 

Not quite. There a shop here in Portugal that is still selling it and the RU version. But the TU costs 2000€ lol i could get it down to 1750€ +/-

Still way expensive for a discontinued laptop.

 

Shops are technically not allowed to continue selling a notebook after it has been discontinued by the ODM, Clevo. Shops that do continue to sell it wish to make a pretty penny off of the remaining units by juking up the price. Some irresponsible shops such as Clevo.fr does this.

 

Did not know that. Thankz. Better avoid those then.

 

Be wary of buying a notebook that is about to discontinue on an EOL architecture too. I know users that received ES X9100's in their notebooks when they paid the full price for an OEM X9100. Clevo makes exceptional notebooks, but unfortunately there are quite a few sellers that want to take advantage of the name and the product.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/M570RU-U-NB8E-S...iewItemQQptZLaptops_Nov05?hash=item3354378849

M570RU-U still for sale.

 

The seller "ocztechnology" is not an Clevo authorized reseller. But that is a good price for that notebook. They must have obtained the remaining notebooks for a good price from someone else.

 

They told me that they bought them for a project, and it didn't work out. I smelt BS tho. I think they picked them up cheap in bulk as they are not TU's and are out of warranty.

 

there are a lot of noname ressellers who try to make money with older clevo bearbone systems like this one in Austria.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Gamer-NB-17-Core...eripheriegeräte_Notebooks?hash=item27ab0d483e

 

I searched the board, but did not find a 'good' answer. Does the V3.0B motherboard support Quads? I saw V3.0B-1 boards that do, but the little sticker on mine says V3.0B (under the first RAM module)

Some say it does some say it doesn't :S

Pic:

 

I am not sure... but judging by the date sticker... it might not be compatible. Since the (E)TU motherboards were not shipped until Dec 2008 and after.

I forgot which motherboard revision # would have quad-core support.

Contact your Clevo vendor for confirmation.

 

I think mine says v3.0b too...and I have a quad in it.

Im not 100% sure though. I'll check next time I clean my laptop.

 

Are you sure?

My np5796 has '08 Sept build date with 3.0B motherboard...some1 say it supports Quad core and some1 say it doesn't...would be nice to finally clear it up

 

Well, I recieved a new chassis(for sure, new serial number, old one didn't have fingerprint reader, new one did and the dead pixels where gone in the lcd), with some of my 'old hardware' in it when i send it in for repair (don't know the date of the repair..), don't know what mb rev. i had before sending it in for repair. So the date on the RAM sticker could be the date of the 'old' RAM..

My vendor is XXODD (Netherlands..), they generally don't reply on email etc. ..


Maybe it's possible to tell the difference of quad-nonquad with the serial number? Mine has 570TU in the serial number located on the bottom of this sticker. It also says M570 on top.



Does someone with a quadcore has these 570TU in it too, or do all quad supporting laptops have the 571 sticker/serial number??

 

And is it possible to put a 280M from a M980NU in the M570TU?

 

No. Sorry. They use different MXM versions.

 

Hey @ leslievw!
you have only to wait until Monday evening GMT and i will tell you exactly!!
Have the same Board and a QuadCore still waiting at PostalOffice for me.
I´ll try to catch em up tomorrow! hop you can wait at least 24h!!

did also find someone who´s selling a October 08 Clevo M570TU with Q9000, hope he knows his Motherboard Rev Number.
i´m still waiting for his reply.

lets cross fingers for an V3.0B!

 

Thanks! Keep us posted

 

you have to wait one day more, post lost my letter.
they promis to deliver tomorrow, will see!!

can´t wait....