**M570TU/ETU (Sager 5796/5797) Owners Thread**

Hi guys, back for more upgrade advice. I wish to upgrade my CPU T9400 to a X9100. Where would be a good place to start looking? and what's the current market price should I expect? QX9300 is not an option for me as I believe my motherboard doesn't support quad core. Thanks

 

so, once and for all!!There is NO QuadCore Support for Motherboard Rev. 3.0B.
I paid 150 bugs for testing and now we know!
Hope i could help any1 who´s interested in.

p.s. new Q9000 for sale!
Rep Power.

 

to bad.. Thanks for letting us know! (rep+)

So, in order to use a quad, we need to upgrade to a higher version.. (omg $$$....) I feel stupid for not waiting a few months when i bought the laptop..

 

So, I'm kicking myself out of the M570TU club, but I will forever remain a fan. I've only had her for 7 months, but it has been a flawless and entertaining 7 months. It breezed through every game, made record benchmarks (at the time), and remained calm and cool through all of the strenuous tests. The 17" chassis was the perfect fit for a true DTR. With a QX9300 and GTX 280M, it put even gaming desktops to shame. It's rugged, it's sleek, it grabs enough attention that it's a stand-out, handsome, workhorse. It's the Mustang among a bunch of ponies.

Moving on, I needed cash, and it only made sense. I'll live more comfortably, I can take my trip to Peru, and as a replacement, I'll be purchasing the fly-weight, sleek and thin Asus UL30A-X5 (in black). The SU7300 Core 2 Duo is a far cry from the quad core grunt and high frequency of the QX9300, but it's enough. Before I had the Sager, I had an HDX 16 for ~6 months, but before that, I had a solid, and compact 12" Toshiba U200...

I do like the portability and convenience of a lightweight 12-13". The battery life on the Asus is out of this world, the keyboard is fantastic, it's only an inch thin, it has an LED display, pro build quality, and a critically acclaimed touchpad. 4GB DDR3 and 500GB 5400 RPM HDD as well, and all for $699! Being thrifty doesn't mean you have to sacrifice on performance

I'll still leave my insight on the Sager forum, and I've left my mark with the GTX 280M thread.

 

That sucks to hear. Is your system BIOS up to date?

 

Looks like I am the last one left with this laptop .... .

 

It's hard to see you go like that, anothergeek. I'm sure you made the right decision though. I'm utterly baffled as to why the M570 lineage is the most successful notebook line by Clevo and yet we are falling like flies. This is something the KGB can't even decipher. With each day passing we are slowly fading away one by one. It must be some conspiracy against us; the fate of every M570 user. That just leaves Blacky left to fend for himself to survive the ever dangerous notebook world with his M570TU, the last M570TU, as his shield. I'm sure you will return someday. We all eventually will. Nobody can deny the success and achievements made by this notebook and it's users, except for Heathkidd.

 

no blacky i'm still with you man lol.

 

Glad to have you around comrade. I am happy to know that I will not face countless enemy attacks all by myself while defending the M570ETU position. Welcome aboard, get your rifle and be prepared, we are in for a rough time.

 

C'mon, this laptop still rocks.
Um, where are they defecting to, i7's?

 

I don't think I'll ever sell this laptop. My loyalty remains with M570TU.

 

Good man, sip.

 

Last night I've dreamed there was a new BIOS release for the M570TU. (seriously)

 

LOL!

*10 char*

 

Me too, assuming I can keep mine working.

 

Strangly enough, I am also kinda fond of my laptop. Now i just need to get my hands on one of those qx9300 cpu's, and i will be set for a year of so. If something i planned goes through i will even manage to score one in the near future too.

 

Today is your lucky day, akaltenbach. http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-2-Ex...58QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCPUs?hash=item4a9c35956a

 

This is just me sounding off. Those who do not wish to be bored or TL;DR are free to disregard this post.

I'm still wary of RAID 0. For years I have had no need to have more than 200GB of space on my notebook HDD. I am happy with my single platter 250GB 7200.4 and I wouldn't have the need to replace it until the single platter 500GB 7200.5's are released. Regarding RAID 0 and SSD's, I'm not too hyped up about it as everyone else is. Call me old fashioned, but I find safety and reliability in single HDD's. Of course, I'm still geared towards performance, but I am still afraid, to put it bluntly, about RAID 0. If the one of the HDD's fails and the RAID array is destroyed, I won't be able to recovery any of my data. I backup my notebook HDD periodically to my five 1TB ES.2's so I shouldn't have any problem, but the thought of an unpurgeable failure just scares me. I know that I can set them up in RAID 1 for data redundancy, but that's really all RAID 1 is, a real time backup of the primary HDD. There is no performance boost, no extra storage space, and a tiny bit more overhead for the CPU. I can always stay with an independent drive configuration having one boot drive and one storage drive. But again, that goes back to my minimalist needs of being content with a 250GB HDD. The second HDD would only suck on battery as it would pretty much be unused for it's entire lifetime under my ownership. As for SSD's, I have experienced the sheer speed and consistency first hand, and I can't deny that they are incredible storage devices. But then again, they are pricey for the nicer models and I am still skeptical of their limited write durability. Drive failure is worse on an SSD and data recovery is a real butthurt both for the user and his wallet. Is there any upcoming leap in technology in the near future that will sway me to consider RAID arrays or SSD's? I don't think so. For now, I am truly happy with my single HDD despite everyone dissing it and famously being known the "small hard drive." For each user, it really depends on what they need. I know my needs for a HDD are low because I always carry a mobile external and a stick drive with me. For others that run virtual servers or dump all of their favorite movies and music with them and hide their naughty videos in the Windows directory, they would definitely need a bigger HDD or multiple HDD's. For those that want insane load times and transfer speeds for both casual and mission critical usage, an SSD or a RAID 0 array would fit the bill. However, what puzzles me is the thought of I may be the extreme minority in the case of storage. Are there others that do not need a large primary HDD? Am I still living back in 2006? Or have I just put my priority and care into other aspects of notebook technology to the point where I have almost completely disregarded storage.

 

Soviet, I agree 100% with your RAID thoughts. I never liked the idea of having two drives and if one goes, they both go. Extra heat, power draw, blah blah, I'm with ya. To me, it's double trouble without necessarily double the boost.
I also agree with storage. With USB, eSATA, I don't need huge storage.

I disagree with your SSD thoughts though. I love following the reviews about them. The fast pace of improvements is exciting to me. The capacity doesn't matter much to me anyway, but the speeds are hard to ignore. For some reason I "feel" like SSD's are safe even though it's still young and might have driver issues, but I can't help myself loving them.

 

Yes, I agree. The re-emergence of the SSD in modern technology is quite a thing to watch. Modern SSD technology is still very young, yet the capacity is quickly catching up to conventional HDD's, and the throughput speeds are slowly approaching the SATA 300 barrier. Nonetheless, other than the price, SSD's seem like a world better than HDD's. But my skepticism still lies in it's write durability. Capacity and speed have been rapidly increasing, but the number of writes each flash cell can endure hasn't improved. It still leaves me uncomfortable, especially with my storage habits as I tend to thrash my drives vigorously for long periods of time. If I were to jump ship for an SSD now, then I would need to change my habits as well. Once memory manufacturers make a breakthrough in flash technology that improves the number of writes until failure, I will catch a ride into the SSD world.

 

What do you guys think, how much does a 9800M GT worth which probably have bad memories? (BSOD and graphical bugs or strange colored lines after few min in games)

 

50 euro 10 char.

 

i truely love my m570tu even if i dont have a quad core and only an m9800 gtx im still very happy with this baby ;-)

greetings flode

 

Not getting rid of mine, even without the quad support right now.. I'll wait for MB prices to drop, upgrade hte MB, buy a quad, eventually a 280m...

First upgrade: Intel 160GB SSD

 

That's the beauty of these machines, they can be constantly upgraded.

I think I will get myself a SDD as well, but not a normal one, I want a miniPCI-e SDD card of 64 GB. Generally they are slow but I've seen some at 150MB/s read speed and 100 write. If they manage to get close to 200 read and 150 write i will buy one.

 

Used Artic Silver 5 a couple of daysago for the CPU and GPU, CPU dropped 4/5 degrees (celsius), GPU temprature doesn't seem to drop (maybe 1 degree).. Should i re-apply it? Or is that normal for the GPU?

While monitoring the temps, i also noted that the HD temp sometimes hits the 45 and sometimes even 48 degres celsius, seems kind of high. (No dust in the laptop, temps are while using it for brwosing the internet etc. not gaming). Is that normal for a Hitachi 7200rpm drive?

Why a miniPCI-e SSD instead of a 2,5"?

 

Simple, because I want the extra space that the current Seagate offers me and which is a very good HDD while also having the benefits of SDD speeds for most of the stuff I use.

Plus, it is also a cheaper.

 

That is a good way to use the miniPCI-e slot.

 

my reseller told me in another forum that there is a new bios for the m570tu...

V19

held sad something about windows 7 improvments against random freezes with the m570tu... i dont have this freezes but i always like the latest bios.

i already mailed my reseller but its weekend and before money i wont get an answer...

greetings flode

 

OMG I've been irritated by the random freeze almost every other day, running a movie, playing a game.. Tried everything.. MEMTest86, VMT, disk check, older drivers. official drivers, dox's drivers, without wlan... etc etc...

The BIOS update sounds to good to be true

 

Hello again,
my vendor answered very quickly and of course i wanna share this with you. i already flash it runs smooth ;_)

http://rapidshare.com/files/306835078/BIOS19.zip

1.00.19

no new ec or at least i dont have one.. im using this bios wit ec .12

greetings flode

 

Hmm, so it only took ~ half year for Clevo to finally fix this problem? Nice

 

Ecellent... finally!

 

Will try the 1.00.19 tonight. So no EC/KB update.. If there will be one, does it hurt to install it after the BIOS? If it does, i'll wait a few day's..

 

hmm, and seems .19 came out...are you a psychic ?

 

Hahaha! I've just realised that, )))

 

Couldn't wait, flashed to 1.00.19 just seconds ago.. It display's Vista/Win7 in the bios option now.

Waiting for the first freeze

 

Well that was stupid, after editing my message here, the system froze..
Didn't fix the freezing after all......

Also, Everest reports that it's from 09/22/09, so it's been out for a while..

 

Lol, so technically the only thing they changed is that they put "/Win 7" next to Vista in the BIOS? awesome ...

 

I must agree that Clevo BIOS support is rather poor.

For such a highend laptop there are many things missing from the BIOS... like having the bluetooth permanently on, lack of support for non-extreme CPUs with unlocked multipliers (Alienware has this support), and the overall very limited number of options.

 

Don't know what else has changed, can't find an official update log for the 19 update..

But indeed, this sucks..

 

hello, anyone around who has an intel postville ssd in their m570tu im thinking of upgrading to one. at the moment only the price and some firmware problems keep me away from hitting the buy button.

if yes do you have good expierence with it in your m570tu??

greetings flode

 

i would say DO IT!! I have a Samsung PB22-J. Increase the whole Systemspeed and i have 25 min more in Batterymode.

 

I ordered the intel ssd, but then was put on hold due to the firmware flaw (2nd one). Once they fix it, I'm getting it.

 

I ordered the 160 GB 2nd gen Intel as well and have installed it, but I can't install Windows 7 and make it my main HDD yet because of the firmware issue (I don't feel like formatting and installing everything twice). The day the new firmware is released, it'll become my primary hard drive.

 

Thought i've read that the firmware upgrade could be done without losing data! (will lookup a source for that..)

I'll wait a few more day's before ordering mine, the prices are killing me



Source: http://download.intel.com/support/ssdc/SSD_FW_Update_Tool_FAQ.pdf
Look at question 9.. Well there is a risk, but there always is a risk when flashing a bios or upgrading firmware...

 

Is there anyone with Windows 7 that does not have random freezes on "Balanced" power mode.

 

hello, im unsing windows 7 and i dont have any freezes at all doesnt matter which power setting. greetings flode

 

I have them on all power modes.. And I don't think it's a Windows 7 thing, had them in Vista too..

 

Using Win 7 64 bit here after using Vista 32. Win 7 has been great and I don't get freezing. Also with Vista and using the DPC latency tool I would get high greens, a lot of orange and some red spikes. After installing Win 7 I just get all low green with a little high green which is great.

After installing Win7 I installed all the new drivers from sagers site which came out on Oct22 for win7. With the chipset driver I went to device manager and manually updated each 'intel' and 'intel mobile' thing listed.

Also running in high performance mode and powermizer off.

So can't say what may be stopping the freezing if anything cause never noticed the problem.