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    **M570TU/ETU (Sager 5796/5797) Owners Thread**

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by emike09, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. LAZAS

    LAZAS Notebook Guru

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    Hello, if removing the battery on the M570ETU resets the time of the laptop, does this suggests that it might be time to replace the CMOS (or whatever it's called) button cell/battery on the motherboard? Thank you.
     
  2. Blacky

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    Yes 10 char.
     
  3. LAZAS

    LAZAS Notebook Guru

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    Any ideas if these are standard button cells that can be purchased on eBay or should one search for them on Clevo reseller sites?
     
  4. Blacky

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    I think you can purchase them on eBay, they should be flat.
    I removed mine a long time ago and it seemed pretty standard to me.
     
  5. Adorex

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    Ok, so after waiting a year or so trying to find a replacement motherboard for my M570TU, I purchased a new one from RJ tech. It came in today and it is now installed.

    Problem is that it won't boot. The power and charge LEDs light, but when I push the power button the lights go off and the wifi light blinks once. If I hold down the power button, the wifi LED blinks once a second, indefinitely. There are no other associated noises or indications of booting.

    Is it possible I received a bad motherboard?

    The previous board that I thought was bad did not have any LEDs light up when plugged in, which leads me to believe the new motherboard may be good, but there is a problem elsewhere.
     
  6. Blacky

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    I have no idea what's wrong. Try to remove everything from the computer, including the GPU, wifi, bluetooth, HDD.
    See what happens.

    Try to get it to bip loudly. That's a sign that the mobo is working.
     
  7. Adorex

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    After talking with RJtech, the reccommended the same thing. So in lieu of tearing the laptop a part I just removed the GPU. It powered up and then got a beep and the right three LEDs were flashing green, CPU fan was on too.

    Anyone have a spare 280M GTX? :D
     
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  9. Adorex

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    Ok, will I need to make any changes in order to run this GPU? Will my 280 heat sink work with it?
     
  10. Blacky

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    Your heatsink will work and the whole GPU will work out of the box. Just make sure to tell him to give you something with the vBIOS:
    62.92.6E.00.10

    The GPU is a tad slower than the 280M and it doesn't overclock.
     
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    Aeternalis Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys --

    Can someone please link me to the latest M570TU vBios update for the "GTX 280m". My current version number is 62.92.78.00.07. I realize that the following thread provides a link to update it to 62.92.91.00.01 , but I don't know if it is applicable to the 570TU specifically -- I definitely don't want to risk bricking my laptop:

    Clevo BIOS (older models)

    Also, does anyone have any ideas on how to go about overclocking the 280m and the most optimal/safe thresholds for the clock, memory and shader? If it helps, here's a screenshot of where I'm currently at:

    [​IMG]

    Thanks!
     
  13. Blacky

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    This the vBIOS I use.

    Note that this BIOS is undervolted for 2D more and 3D more, you may want to increase the voltage a bit if you experience crashes or freezes during desktop operations.
    It's also over-volted for gaming mode.

    You can use Nibitor to edit the BIOS and nvflash to flash the BIOS , but only under MS-DOS mode.
    You will have to make yourself a bootable MS-DOS USB stick and use that to flash your vBIOS.
    I also have the newer version in my files, but I don't think that helps, I think it's for MXM 3.0 cards or SLI cards, not sure, but it's not for the M570TU.
     

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    Wow! Thank you so much Blacky! I actually despaired of actually receiving a reply let alone the vBIOS update I was searching for. I'm actually a huge gamer, so if it is overclocked for gaming, that's great! I am an utter novice at manipulating/editing BIOS files so I am extremely leery of even opening the file to take a peek let alone changing it in any fashion lest I end up ruining my v-card.

    If possible, would you mind posting the stats for the clocks? Also, how long have you been using this BIOS, and have you found it to be stable (i.e. running too hot, artifacts etc.)? Since we have the same machine (M570TU), I assume we have the exact same GTX 280m card in terms of it's hardware (i.e.same manufacturer) -- would it then be safe to assume that this vBIOS would have little to no chance of facing any compatibility issues? Also, I have the T9900 processor... would you advise upgrading it (is it even possible) or do you think (coupled with the 280m and 8GB RAM) it is sufficient to provide reasonable graphical fidelity for gaming? With my current vBIOS I have found recent graphics intensive games (like Need for Speed Rivals ) to lag horribly.

    Sorry to overwhelm you with questions, but are there any BIOS updates that enhance performance? My version is "1.00.19".

    Thanks!
     
  15. Aeternalis

    Aeternalis Notebook Enthusiast

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    Accidental Double post (Admin please delete)
     
  16. Blacky

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    No, no BIOS updates, you have the latest.
    The card will run hotter, to have this vBIOS running you will need to repaste the GPU and clean your fans regularly to compensate for the extra heat. Yes, you get 10-15% better performance with this vBIOS.
    I no longer have a 280M, it died on me this summer, after serving me for 3 and a half years. 90% of this time, my laptop ran on the vBIOS I just gave you, so I think the clocks are rock stable, but you never know, every card is different. Right now I am on a 3700M, which works almost as fast as the 280M.
    If you want to update the CPU, you probably want to get a QX9300. Note, that you can only use the QX9300 if your laptop was produced after december 2008. You can buy it from eBay.
     
  17. Adorex

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    Now that I have a working motherboard and a 3700M, the OS will not load, even after multiple OS repairs. It appears to blue screen right before going to the windows log in, but does not stay up so I don't know what it says. Do I need to force some kind of driver change in DOS?
     
  18. Blacky

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    Have you tried formatting your laptops and installing the OS from scratch ?
    Have you tried a bootable Ubuntu disk ?
     
  19. Adorex

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    I had to reformat, no big deal.
     
  20. Blacky

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    So is it working now ?
     
  21. Adorex

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    So far so good. I ran a little Folding@home. Temps for the CPU were just fine, around 60 C (X9100 @ 3.0), GPU saw 70+ C.

    CPU temps at idle are 28-30 C, GPU is 44 C.
     
  22. Blacky

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    Seems ok. You want to keep your GPU below 90C, that's pretty much it.
     
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    What is your BIOS version? I have never tried 16GB, only 8 GB.
     
  25. LAZAS

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    BIOS is 1.00.18

    Going to try the 8 GB + 4 GB RAM combination to see if I can squeeze out 12 GB RAM as claimed by those 2-3 year old posts. Also after the Samsung 840 EVO 500 GB SSD upgrade it is recommended to try to limit virtual RAM, so those extra 4 GB RAM will come in handy with simultaneous use of After Effects, Photo-hop, AutoCAD and other heavyweight software.
     
  26. Blacky

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    Good luck then. 1.00.18 is almost the latest version. There is a slightly newer 1.00.19 version, but I don't think it will make much of a difference.
     
  27. LAZAS

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    No luck. The 8 GB RAM modules do not seem to be working (inserted them one by one and in combination with 4 GB RAM modules). There is still a slight chance that both of the 8 GB modules are defective, so will have to rule out that first.
     
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  29. LAZAS

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    So it seems that the posts suggesting that M570ETU supports 14 GB of RAM were either BS or I somehow managed to purchase wrong DDR3 RAM. The RAM works without a glitch on my friends laptop, but I suspect that this is might be to the frequency. In M570ETU it is 1066Mhz and the purchased RAM's are 1333MHz. I was pretty sure that the frequency simply "down-samples" as at least it used to work that way on Desktops in DDR2 RAM "era"...
     
  30. Blacky

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    The DDR3 downclocks. I suppose then that 8 Gb is the max for this machine. Sorry
     
  31. fernand0martins

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    Hi guys, i have a QUADRO FX 3700m, a year ago it started to give me the infamous “Display driver stopped responding and has recovered” error.

    After a lot of tweaks around it a managed to keep it working for over a year, but the last days the error is getting unbearable, failing even in youtube videos, does anyone got any suggestion or should i just try to replace the gpu?


    Edit: Even it failing on youtube and applications if i try to make stress test with furmark it doens't fail. Any idea?
     
  32. Blacky

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    Most of these cards have experienced reflows and have been already repaired once, than sold as working.
    It is not uncommon for them to work for a few months and than crap out.

    If you know a good computer store that knows how to fix video cards, then they can help you and prolong its life for a few more months.

    Otherwise, buy a new one.
     
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    Do you have any advice on good replacements/ vendors?

    At this moment i'm really far away from everything because im a student in a foreign country, i was considering to bake it, should i try to do it? Or is it better to try to fix it first?
     
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    Hi all, maybe is someone who can help me with an issue. I have a Clevo M570TU with a dead 9800m GTX for quite some time (if i am not mistaken it is an MXM 2.1 Type III HE). And it seems i can not find anybody to fix the video cipset here in Romania. I am trying for couple of years... The notebook services around here are awful, quite expensive and not very reliable.
    My questions are: is this card compatible and if it is, do i need a bios update for it. Because i cannot update the bios, obviously, and i can not remember what version i have. I think it's a 4 years old one.
    Do i have any other options to bring my Clevo alive or....?
    Thank you in advance for your advice
     
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    UPDATE1:
    i just talk to the guy who sells that card and he said "It is only for HP! its not compatible with other laptop! it's about the BIOS and FX 2700 video card BIOS is directly on HP laptop. This card have not it's own bios"

    UPDATE2:
    I just found on Clevo site, on M570TU area, some early video drivers for nVIDIA Quadro FX2700M. So, theoretically, the original motherboard BIOS does have support for this type of card and should work. Is my assumption correct?

    UPDATE3:
    It's working.
    View attachment M570TU DM_v3.6.pdf
     
  37. lonaysta

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    Hey man,

    Haven't checked the thread for a while. I recently got a 27' WQHD 1440p (2560x1440) external monitor to work with another laptop of mine but I hope to occasionally use my M570TU with it. However I found that I can't output 1440p signal with either the DVI(Dual Link DVI cable) or the HDMI port. I managed to output 2400x1350@60Hz but it is not as good as the native resolution. Is there any way to let this GTX 280M output 1440p signal to it? I believe the RAMDAC is good enough the card can handle its native display, 1920x1200, and an extra FHD monitor without problem. What about a single 1440p? Any advice is welcome. I can't even output a 1440p@30Hz Reduced Rank CVT Timing successfully..
     
  38. Meaker@Sager

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    Nvidia lists the "Maximum Digital Resolution 2048x1536" so it's likely the card at its limit.
     
  39. Blacky

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    You get the bell curve of chip quality so some will last a long time.
     
  41. lonaysta

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    Managed to output 1440p from my M570TU's GTX 280M to my monitor yea!
     
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    Mind sharing how you did it in case someone else needs to?
     
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