**OFFICIAL SAGER 8850-Clevo W880CU Owners Lounge**

So let me get this straight... your laptop freezes even if there are no USB devices present ?

Have you also tried a different video drivers? Have you done any modding to your hardware or software? firmware? drivers?

 

Just the mouse is plugged in via USB, i've done no modding to the laptops hardware / softwre / firmware / drivers. Its standard.

 

Does your mouse have a bluetooth option as well ?

Try to use it via bluetooth if you can, avoid using the USB ports altogether, it is the only way to pin-point the cause of your problem.

 

No its only USB, i've had the hard drive in for 2 hours now and its not crashed. I have updated to the latest Nvidia graphics drivier for my GTX 480m

 

will we be able to upgrade our 480M's to the new 580M, when it comes out?

 

Don't update your BIOS, just because. If it ain't broke, don't brick it.

That is very likely. Pretty much a guarantee.

 

that's great to hear! i'm completely happy with my 480M, but my hands are always itchy. :evilgrin:

BTW: i tried downloading 3dmark vantage to run some benchmarks, but it states that it's only for windows vista. is there a version for win7 ppl?

 

If you download the latest on the site it is fully compatible with windows 7...

3DMark Vantage FAQ
Q: Is 3DMark Vantage compatbile with Microsoft Windows 7?
A: Yes, 3DMark Vantage is fully compatible with Microsoft Windows 7.

Futuremark - Benchmarks - 3DMark Vantage - Support & Resources
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ah, thanks!

i haven't ran any benchmark tests in years, so i'm a bit behind.

 

i just got done running a 3dmark vantage test. my NP8850's specs are in my sig. i only updated the GPU and wifi card drivers. everything else is exactly how i got my laptop from xoticpc. not even a clean install.



what do u guys think? vantage barely pushed my GPU to 57*c. SC2 pushes my GPU harder than that. is that furmark GPU benchmark free? i wouldn't mind tryin that cuz it's supposed to be alot more GPU intensive.

no, i haven't touched my NP8850's bios.

 

Hey houstoned, would you mind downloading and running the Lost Planet 2 benchmark?

 

sure, np. i'll edit my post with results in a bit.

what are other 480M-users scoring as far as vantage? i just wanted to make sure my baby is performing like she's supposed to.

EDIT: i tried installing, and reinstalling, a few times. it kept giving me some kind of error that said some file was missing. i clicked on yur link, so maybe yur link is for a 32-bit system? i have a 64-bit OS.

 

Below was the Vantage score of one of our 8850's back in July...

 

that was OC'd, correct? i don't do any OC'ing or modding, so i was really interested in OEM, or close to OEM-spec'd numbers.

 

Yes that was lightly OC'ed. I do not remember the exact settings but I think it was about 500 on the core and the memory was bumped up as well. I think with the right settings and such, a pro could get 13,000 vantage...
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nice. honestly, this thing runs so cool that i'm really tempted to OC it a bit. i mean vantage only took it to 57*c.

 

Overclocking really is zero risk, with a cooling system as robust as the W880's.

Just a few more months until I get mine.

 

hey i tried runnin that benchmark for ya, but i couldn't get it to work for some reason. i even reinstalled it a few times to make sure. did u make sure it was for a 64-bit OS?

 

What happens, when you try to run it?

I ran my benches on 7 64-bit, with no issues.

 

For the ones that have asked, unfortunately many US resellers have discontinued the SAGER 8850-Clevo W880CU model...

 

Soon the supply of backpanels for the W880CU will deplete to zero. W870CU users should pick one up for modding before they're all gone.

 

nothing. everytime i opened the icon, on my desktop, it would give me an error saying some file could not be found and for me to try to reinstall.

where did u get the link from? maybe i'll try going to the original site myself and downloadin from there.

 

Well ain't that some.....

Hmm, I just downloaded it from that link, and I was able to install and run it with no issue.

I can only assume it's some conflict with your 480M or drivers.

 

i'll try to download it again and see if it works. if it gives me the same error i'll take a screenshot for u.

 

So should I go ahead and get the W880CU or the W870?

 

The W870CU with the nVidia 470M would be a great choice!!

 

Kinetik.Kid, allow me to put things into perspective. Would you want to buy a W870CU that comes with a less power consuming card that has more performance, or a taller and heavier W880CU that comes with a more power consuming card that yields less performance? Both current production notebooks are identical at the motherboard and are different only by the backpanel and the PSU, in which both can be easily acquired. The heatsinks are also different; the W880CU's GTX 480M heatsink shares cooling power from the CPU fan. Because the radiator for the GPU occupies some of the space previously dedicated for the CPU radiator, the total surface area and airflow gateway distance for the CPU radiator is less on the W880CU than on the W870CU. In short, the W880CU has weaker CPU cooling.

Sorry for dropping the reality bomb on you guys.

 

The above two posts sum up the entire choice, the 470 is basically the card the 480 should have always been and flat out performs better. TBH the 480 should've never seen the light of the day, if they do actually release the 485 if would seem far less redundant if they just skipped that GF100 card.

+1 for a W870CU with a GTX 470.

 

So is the W880 a bad choice then? I got the following specs for $1734:

• CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-740QM Mobile Processor 1.73 GHz 45nm 6M L3 Cache Intel Smart Cache PGA988
• HDD: 250GB 5400RPM SATA300 Hard Drive [-15]
• MEMORY: 2GB (2GBx1) DDR3-1333 SODIMM Memory [-33] (Corsair or Major Brand
• MOTHERBOARD: Intel® PM55 Chipset Mainboard
• SOUND: Built-in 3D Premium Surround Sound
• VIDEO: NVIDIA GTX480M 2GB GDDR5 VRAM PCIe Video

And just for clarification purposes...The W880 isnt better than the W870 because the 480m doesnt have enough power to perform well? I base this on the 180w PSU another member was having. And also you guys mentioned something about the CPU heatsink and cooling. Does that make the W870 perform better overall? Because I just bought the above specs at cyberpower so should I cancel my order and try with XoticPC? I thought I was getting a good deal because I would upgrade the 8GB myself regardless of which model I got so the ram configurations and prices aren't a factor (both come to about $1750). So both models are pretty much for the same price but I'm getting the 480m instead of the 460m. I also read a few pages back that the W880 runs quieter but did the re-release of the w870 fix that problem, also which one has the better battery life? So unless you guys tell me I got a bad deal, a chassis issue, PSU/CPU cooling issues, Imma just roll with the W880. And also should support be an issue as well? I know the last drivers for the Sager NP8850 are from September and for some odd reason the Clevo website doesnt work for me. Thanks for the input guys and if I did make the wrong decision hopefully I can cancel the order in time.

 

The 75W card is faster than the 100W card. Why would a logical person then choose the 100W card?

The 470M is a much better overclocker as well.

There's just no reason to take the 480M.

 

The only reason why I think going with the W880CU could be a not so bad choice is because the motherboard is officially capable of handling a 100W GPU; if the next generation of GPUs are more power hungry and still use the same MXM slot, it might be possible to upgrade the W880CU and not W870CU. I'm pretty sure there are a few differences between the W870CU and W880CU's motherboards; there must be a technical reason why their BIOS aren't inter-compatible. Just like how the motherboard of the M860TU looked the same as the M860ETU's but had no Quad-Core support.
Now it's possible that the latest W870CUs use exactly the same motherboard, I don't know and I haven't kept up to date lately.

 

They should just put a GTX 470M in a W880, as well as the ATi cards too. Can't go wrong with better cooling...

 

this would be great, if it were true, because i plan on upgrading my 480M to a 5xxM when they're available.

 

I'd skip a generation since they offer only 10% boost.

 

Has anyone been brave enough to confirm this?

 

The current production W870CU's can accept the GTX 480M just fine providing that the required parts are included. From the looks of it, the first production W870CU can also take the GTX 480M. http://forum.notebookreview.com/6558975-post2105.html

The reason why MXM-Upgrade says that only 35W CPU's are compatible is because they tested only with the 120W PSU. I can bet you that when using it under realistic loads (games) with a >35W CPU dropped the PSU to it's knees. And yes, the BIOS for the current production W870CU and W880CU are compatible with each other. At the time of that post, the latest BIOS for the W870CU was 1.00.13, and the revised motherboard for the W870CU (ie. the one with USB 3.0) wasn't released yet. I flashed the W880CU BIOS onto my W870CU without a problem, however I do not know if the W870CU BIOS at that time is compatible with the W880CU as I do not have a W880CU to attempt it.

Now that the W880CU is out of print and the GTX 480M has been replaced by the GTX 470M, I don't see any reason why one would flash the W880CU BIOS onto the W870CU today.

The GTX 470M's cooling won't be noticeably better on the W880CU. Clevo only has one heatsink design for the GTX 470M and it was made to fit the W870CU, which has the regular backpanel. You can put it in the W880CU, but the heatsink won't benefit much from the W880CU being raised ~8mm due to the taller backpanel. I can do that with a pair of erasers I have lying around.

If 100W cards are released again in the future for the W870CU/W880CU platform, if ever, then W870CU users can just pick up a new backpanel and PSU. http://forum.notebookreview.com/6926499-post330.html

Me.

 

Hi,
I am having frequent BSODs, normally while gaming (it typically comes up with a SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION error, on multiple different games). I have a top of the line system (8Gb Ram, i7 940XM) and Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit, and I am fairly certain all the drivers are up to date. The laptop isn't overly hot so I don't think it is cooling either.

I feel confident I could resolve the problem if I could just work out what was causing the BSODs. Can anyone suggest a way to work out the specific Driver/Piece of Software that is causing a BSOD?

 

Unstable memory perhaps?

 

Guys, has the W880CU got a 120Hz display, I want to play games on it in 3d without connecting it to a 3d Tv? Thanks in advance.

 

No. 10char

 

i just wanted to bump this thread up.

 

Aha lol I thought someone had something to say, sad to see the thread die but there's not much more to say now lol!

 

yeah, stupid nvidia!!! why'd u have to release the 485M right after i bought my NP8850?!? why?!?!?! *hitting ground*

hopefully a 485M or higher will be going into my NP8850 by the end of this year/beginning of next year. any fellow NP8850 owners thinking about upgrading their GPU's down the road also?

 

Definitely, I am 100% positive the GTX485M is compatible with this laptop already and any newer MXM3.0b card should work. The only thing is I'm moving back home in a few months from college so I have yet to decide the fate of my laptop I'm big in overclocking and I'm starting to miss it lol! I don't like overclocking mobile i7, the thing runs too hot right off the bat and clocks down.

 

I tried to warn you, I really did.

 

The waiting game never ends though, the GTX480M remains a powerful card.

 

Hey did you ever find a solution for this issue? Im BELIEVE Im having the same issue. I tried reapplying thermal paste and clean everything out pristinely. The temps look very normal to me. i run a steady 43C with no games or hard app running. When game or graphics app running it hits 64C-79C but it shuts off abruptly. The heat of the actual laptop isnt too hot either..

 

Wow, how are you hovering at 30C??? My fans are plugged in and definitely not running at that temp..

 

Tell me something...
Does your power brick have a built in LED power indicator?
If yes, do the following:
Do everything you can to reproduce the problem, keep an eye on the LED all time. When the laptop shuts off, does the LED flicker, dim or switch off for a split second?
If yes, then all you need is a new power brick. Sadly my reseller didn't consider my problem as a faulty power brick even though it was since it couldn't handle gaming load. Since then, I've bought two aftermarket 180W power bricks and they handle the load flawlessly.

 

Okay after class Ill give it a shot. And yes I do have a LED indicator. I definitely remember the brick being extremely hot. Ill report back at 6 EST.