**OFFICIAL Sager NP5125/Sager NP5135/Clevo B5130M Owner's Lounge**

Go check some review about Seagate Momentus XT at Anandtech, Engadget, StorageReview, Tomshardware, etc. They are saying good thing about the Hybrid for having a price closer to normal HD and a capability close to SSD.
Also, you could check notebookreview.com forum at after market upgrade. People have only been saying good thing about the HD.

About my purchase:
Got mine from broker from my country. I think he ordered it directly from SagerNotebooks.com. And related to the topics above, you can guess how much is the shipping cost that 1 item from states to Indonesia. It's about 40% cost of the notebook. I don't think buying HDD separately will save me any money.

@Sumik temperature.:
With my old ASUS', those are "standard" values on heavy load. But you better try to find a way to make them down. Probably start with cleaning the fan? (who knows the environment you working with is so dusty)

 

Tried to search USB 3.0 HD yesterday. It seems there aren't many yet out there in market. Do you guys have a recommendation? (though it's not like my 1 TB eSATA HD will need a replacement anytime soon)

 

Since the laptop only has a SATA II controller, your USB 3.0 external HD will not be able to transfer data any faster than the eSATA port. Both will be limited to SATA II speed.

 

Hey guys, sorry to respond to this so late in the game. We are discontinuing all Clevo laptops as barebone pricing has been increased due to the complaints of resellers (as told to us by Sager) so that our prices would no longer be competitive. This has culminated after multiple instances with Sager treating our company at a sub-par level to the point where they even sent us the following email regarding an already paid order of ours for B5100M barebones:

After this, we proceeded to find out that while being told that Sager had "oversold" the stock they had, orders were still shipping out daily to Sager resellers - even after I specifically asked over the phone whether or not this shortage only applied to unbranded models and was told it did not.

A few days later we received updated pricing so that our systems were now at the same price or higher than their resellers' pricing at cost, and the decision has finally been made to discontinue all Clevo-based laptop sales due to what Sager has been putting us through, effective immediately.

Note: This does NOT affect support for these systems. If you have previously purchased a laptop from us, your full warranty is still applicable and will be honored.

 

I'v actually been doing a ton of research on the Hybrid Drive.. Problem with all of the good reviews from all of the companies.. they are short term reviews.. see a review where they have had it for a very long period of time? Well I have.. majority of people say they have had to get it RMA's multiple times, lost lots of info, drive constantly stops spinning going into its built in "power saver mode" which lags the system when starts spinning back up.. if you go to newegg.com and check out reviews.. majority of them are not good and thats not just people complaining about DOA. Im just going to hold off and buy a SSD once the prices come down quite a bit

 

well sometimes stuff happens, in the end if you don't screw ppl over and keep good communication many will trust you in the upcoming prchases.

 

well that sounds like the USB 3.0 on this laptop is pretty useless, or at least overhyped by marketing, its just an extra esata port i suppose then

 

At the moment it seems as if its kinda pointless.. but in the future when people have other laptops without USB 3.0 and when you have a USB 3.0 flash drive or something you'll be glad that you have the port on it. I mean the transfer speed of SATA II on a flash drive would be pretty cool i guess

 

Yes, since SATA II is about 6x faster than USB 2.0, having a USB 3.0 flash drive that will transfer that fast is a good thing.

My comment was only to caution about spending the money for an external USB 3.0 HDD and finding the transfer rate less than expected. eSATA externals are more common, and less expensive, so better to stay with that.

 

ye its better than having a regular USB 2.0 port i suppose, just feels kinda like a huge gimmick to advertise it as a usb 3.0 port and all its advantages and then not even give us the full functionality of a usb 3.0 port.

like this from sagers site:

 

I'm having a problem with the eSata drive I ordered with my computer from XoticPC...when I plug in the drive to the computer (1 USB, 1 eSata) while booted, it doesn't recognize it. When I try and reboot with it plugged in, it hangs at post...not sure what's going on, any suggestions?

 

Try it with just the eSATA cable. The USB is for power only, and you probably don't need it.

See if it works better that way.

 

Wow sorry I was kind of hoping you would just happen to own one of those games! Didn't mean to send you on a demo hunt. Thanks for trying it out!

However, I think you might have played one of the older Sam & Max's, possibly the Culture Shock demo? My mistake, I should have been more clear. For some reason the engine here has zero issue for me. The problem only occurs in the newer episodes (the 300 series) where they overhauled the engine.

If you still want to try this out, I'd download this demo here:
Download Sam and Max The Devils Playhouse PC Demo

I looked around to see if I could find a game with a smaller demo file, but all of the games with smaller downloads used engines that avoided the issue.

The mouse lag only occurs with a handful of games really, it seems, but it's consistent and problematic.

If you do go through the trouble, the problem is obvious before you even start the game - if you just move the mouse side-to-side rapidly in the menu you notice definite lag. If it's not obvious, you can hit ALT-ENTER to go to windowed mode, at which point the lag will mysteriously vanish. Hit ALT-ENTER again and it should be pretty clear.

If you don't have time, I understand - I might be able to get a friend with a similar laptop to try this out and see if I can find out anything there.

Thanks again

 

Try installing Intel Rapid Storage Drive. Mine recognize it as soon as I install the driver.

 

Does that also hold true for all other new laptops with USB 3.0? or just Sager/NP5125 have this kind of gimmick?

 

Dude that sucks. Why would Sager treat buying customers like that??? I don't quite understand how the Clevo business model works but why do you have to go through Sager to buy Clevo barebones?

 

With just the eSATA cable, the computer recognizes nothing (which is what usually happens anyway), but the light on the drive also doesn't turn on, and the drive doesn't spin up...no power.

I installed the Intel Rapid Storage Driver off their site...same thing occurs, doesn't recognize on plug-in, and when I boot, the post gets stuck at "Video BIOS shadowed"

The boot problems only happen when i plug in the eSATA for the drive, not if I try booting with the USB's attached...

 

For statistics, i ordered the same setup as the most popular one from xotic.

I'm getting mine in 3 days and since i'm a diehard ubuntu user i'm going to invest some time in making it work.
I'll update on the subject later and will be happy to help with any questions.

 

I can't say why Sager would do this all of a sudden; my guess is we were taking too much business away from resellers and/or too many people were asking them to match our prices.

To buy direct from Clevo you have to order in very large quantities, so Sager and Pro-Star (the two US Clevo distributors) buy in those quantities and then act as distributors to us smaller companies.

 

It is not a gimmick. It is a fact that no one makes a SATA III controller for laptops, so all laptops are limited to SATA II speed for data transfer to or from their HDD.

 

I've switched nVidia graphics drivers to the older 189.75 and the fan is still chugging along at an audible volume.

 

Sager NP5125:
1st Place: i5 540m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HDD | N6300 | DVD - 4 | Flip4Life, Juano11, Shteren, Stryker412(don't know wireless)
2nd Place: i5 520m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HYB | 802.11 | DVD - 2 | VZX, infinite012
3rd Place: i7 620m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HDD | 802.11 | DVD - 1 | brunotacca
3rd Place: i7 620m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HYB | N6300 | DVD - 1 | washogren
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HYB | N6300 | BLU - 1 | Daiei
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB HDD | N6300 | BLU - 1 | mcfaddenator
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | _HD | 500GB HDD | N6300 | DVD - 1 | Firzen771
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB -> 90GB SSD | N6300 | DVD - 1 | Daryl Z
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB HDD | N6300 | DVD - 1 | Audible101

Sager NP7110:
1st Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB HDD | N6200 | DVD - 1 | Sumik


XoticPC - 5 | Flip4Life, Firzen771, Sumik, Shteren, infinite012
SagerNotebooks.com - 1 | Daryl Z
PowerNotebooks.com - 1 | Daiei
??????? - VZX, mcfaddenator, brunotacca, washogren, Juano11, Stryker412, Audible101

 

Review of the np5125 is up on NBR.

Sager NP5125 Review

 

Mine is from XoticPC.

 

Soo the review comes out.. and the site stops working.. Great.. I was looking so forward to looking at the review! ]:

 

I got to read the review. It basically said that the laptop has an amazing screen and good performance, but the build quality and keyboard were lacking. It got the 42Wh battery, which they got 3.25 hours out of.

 

I'm returning mine, I just run into too many problems along the way
It was for my brother in law, he's off to college, I gotta find him something else in the price range of $1000
-stuck pixel
-cpu temps reaching 95c
-poor camera
-white glare on side of screen when looking at an angle
-fan almost always on and it's pretty loud
-optimus potentialy cousing problems, badcompany2 for example

 

can't wait for mines to come so this is my config..

Sager NP5125|2.4 GHz i5-450m|1080p screen|DVD Burner|4GB RAM|GT 330m| 6300 Ultimate-N|320GB 7200RPM HDD

 

i know it was posted a while ago but this thread has gotten so large now that i was wondering if anyone could post the link that shows how to hack the nvidia optimus drivers so i can install the newer drivers that Sager hasnt certified yet?

 

Sager has the updated drivers posted on their website.

 

If you want to hack it, there is a seperate thread in the sager forum

 

i thought there was even newer drivers from nvidia that Sager just hasnt certified since they were quite a bit behind on the last driver to be certified, are u sure the one sager posted on the 26nd of august is the most up to date optimus drivers?

EDIT: wine jug could u give me the link?

 

Sager NP5125:
1st Place: i5 540m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HDD | N6300 | DVD - 4 | Flip4Life, Juano11, Shteren, Stryker412(don't know wireless)
2nd Place: i5 520m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HYB | 802.11 | DVD - 2 | VZX, infinite012
3rd Place: i7 620m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HDD | 802.11 | DVD - 1 | brunotacca
3rd Place: i7 620m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HYB | N6300 | DVD - 1 | washogren
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HYB | N6300 | BLU - 1 | Daiei
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB HDD | N6300 | BLU - 1 | mcfaddenator
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | _HD | 500GB HDD | N6300 | DVD - 1 | Firzen771
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB HDD | N6300 | DVD - 1 | Audible101
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB -> 90GB SSD | N6300 | DVD - 1 | Daryl Z

Sager NP7110:
1st Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB HDD | N6200 | DVD - 1 | Sumik


XoticPC - 5 | Flip4Life, Firzen771, Sumik, Shteren, infinite012
SagerNotebooks.com - 1 | Daryl Z
PowerNotebooks.com - 1 | Daiei
??????? - VZX, mcfaddenator, brunotacca, washogren, Juano11, Stryker412, Audible101
**If any of the above people could mention to me on this forum or in a private message where they purchased their laptop, it would be appreciated in getting these statistics up, Thanks!

 

Sumik, I just responded to your private message

 

I'm not sure what nVidia's latest driver number is, but the one on sager's website is 259.39

 

Hey guys -- most of you have probably already seen it, but the official NotebookReview.com Sager NP5125 review is now live:
Sager NP5125 Review
Enjoy.

 

I got nothing

 

I just figured out that turning OFF Optimus will make youtube videos work. There is no more flickering of the bottom bar.

 

k, just got it, you're crazy you typed so much about this machine

 

Yeah sorry.. When I said that I responded to you.. I just started typing it haha I honestly did not know that I was going to type so much.

I really tend to get carried away when I am talking but hopefully I helped somewhat... please let me know about your final decision because now I am interested to know what you plan on doing [:

 

Proxy-posting for wine jug, who gave me these earlier:

Software Upgrade

I also had the hacked drivers installed earlier. The highest those went (from what I saw) was 258, so I think you're better off with these drivers.

 

Can you please explain to me what is wrong with the keyboard on the computer? I had the 7110 for a week or so and I loved the keyboard.. Maybe is it that if you are a "hard typer" that the keyboard feels jiggly and not well built or what is it? because I felt as if it was a really nice chicklet style keyboard and seemed to love it the short time i had it... if i am missing something or if you can elaborate on why the keyboard was badly reviewed upon then it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

Sager NP5125:
1st Place: i5 540m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HDD | N6300 | DVD - 4 | Flip4Life, Juano11, Shteren, Stryker412
2nd Place: i5 520m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HYB | 802.11 | DVD - 2 | VZX, infinite012
3rd Place: i7 620m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HDD | 802.11 | DVD - 1 | brunotacca
3rd Place: i7 620m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HYB | N6300 | DVD - 1 | washogren
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 500GB HYB | N6300 | BLU - 1 | Daiei
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB HDD | N6300 | BLU - 1 | mcfaddenator
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | _HD | 500GB HDD | N6300 | DVD - 1 | Firzen771
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB HDD | N6300 | DVD - 1 | Audible101
3rd Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB -> 90GB SSD | N6300 | DVD - 1 | Daryl Z

Sager NP7110:
1st Place: i5 450m | 4GB | FHD | 320GB HDD | N6200 | DVD - 1 | Sumik


XoticPC - 6 | Flip4Life, Firzen771, Sumik, Shteren, infinite012, Stryker412
SagerNotebooks.com - 1 | Daryl Z
PowerNotebooks.com - 1 | Daiei
??????? - VZX, mcfaddenator, brunotacca, washogren, Juano11, Audible101
**If any of the above people could mention to me on this forum or in a private message where they purchased their laptop, it would be appreciated in getting these statistics up, Thanks!

 

Thanks for that.. I remember this being an annoying but bearable issue with the laptop.. Glad it could be fixed but in result wonder why optimus would cause such a random thing to happen and only on youtube videos? haha oh well

 

I guess I'm the only one with the i5-430m and 8GB of ram.
Heres my specs
Got the barebones from RJTech
Intel i5-430m 8GB Patriot 2x4 PC1066 WD BK 320 7200rpm
Intel 6300 AGN Blu-Ray combo drive FHD 1920x1080.

I'm going to test a ADATA S596 SSD 128 GB by friday and report back.

 

I don't much like the keyboard, but it's acceptable. I don't like it because I am a hard typer (my friends can hear my typing over Skype, despite a headset). It has what we hard-typers call keyboard flex. This is when the keyboard tray isn't stiff enough to resist bending in the middle as I type. You can test how much flex a keyboard has by pressing down on the middle of the keys (between "G", "H", and "B") and seeing how much it moves. The Thinkpad line of keyboards is known for having almost no keyboard flex, hence the great reviews about their keyboards. This laptop has a fair amount of travel.

The other reason I don't like it is the spacebar. I type in a manner that my left thumb or right index finger hit the spacebar (depending on the last key pressed). When it is my left humb, sometimes I can't register a spacebar press because of where I hit the spacebar. This happens if you hit the far left side.

I also have a little bit of a sore spot because the first time I pressed the F5 key, it stayed down. I had to press it a few times or it to pop up.

It's OK as a keyboard, but definitely not great.

 

Hey guys,

so as a quick update, I have a few more battery tests for you.

On battery, full brightness, WiFi/BT on, charging two iPods, speakers up full, with an overclocked GT330m (678/808/1405 clocks), I get about 90 minutes of Crysis.

On battery, earbuds, medium volume, GMA lock, WiFi on, full brightness, I get about 3.5 hours of iTunes.

I squeezed 5 hours of idle on minimum brightness with WiFi on and GMA locked.

I get about 3 hours of web surfing on high brightness.

All of these were on the 62.16 Wh battery.

PS, the OC got me a 6800 in 3DMark06, which is a substantial improvement. It brings the max temp during the test from 58C to 64C.

 

Do you have any type of thermal paste on your CPU or GPU? And in addition, can you show a link of what you followed to overclock it? If you did it yourself nevermind.. Ill try n figure it out but is it stable and will run at 64C without any overheating problems whatsoever safely? Or can 64C potentially be dangerous to the laptop? Thanks

 

I wouldn't follow a guide to overclocking unless it was specifically for the NP5125, because cooling varies so much in GT330/335m laptops. You have everything from the NP5125 and NP7110 to the Macbook Pro and m11x. I dialed mine up by 30MHz at a time individually with NVTools. It's all about how cool you can keep it, and for me, 6C hotter is acceptable (used Speedfan to monitor). It runs stable, no artifacts or overheating problems. Additionally, it doesn't appear to be overheating the processor, so the ventilation is working well.

Every computer comes with thermal paste. Mine has stock thermal paste, just not Arctic Silver. I might put some on at a later date.

 

Thanks, Charles.

This really make me mad , upgrading to higher series processor for $60 to only found it scores 600 points less in 3DMark06 .