*** OFFICIAL Sager NP8760 / Clevo W870CU Owners Lounge ***

I chuckled when I read this reponse to Moo.

But, yeah, SSDs don't make noises.

It's that or the CPU fan. Have you tried tightening the fans down or reseating them?

Also, I think Sagers have fan control. Try fiddling with those.

 

Do your fans sound like this?:

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If so, welcome to my world! My former 8690 is in the video above. The fan noise was intolerable so I had to send the machine back. If yours sounds like that, then it could be you have defective fans as well.

 

Hey Justin -- just emailed you!

Nah, it's BOA being complete idiots and the closest branch is 7500 miles away.

It's all handled now

 

Wow, that's awful. It would be great to have a reference sound in there for volume comparison because that sounds like a buzzsaw!

 

hey joker, fortunately the fan noise on my 8760 isn't that bad! no buzzing... it's just constantly spinning and only makes some high pitched squeaks when it seems the gpu kicks in higher. so maybe the gpu fan in mine is a little loose? the constant fan noise isn't so terrible, and i can tolerate it... it's just louder than any other laptop i've had. but i suppose it's normal for this kind of laptop??

so how would i tighten/reseat the fans, as forge mentioned? i'm pretty much a newbie when it comes to hardware tinkering... is it a difficult process/can i screw up my laptop trying it?

 

howdee folks, first time here!

I found this site as I am currently contemplating buying the NP8760

I'm on the fence though between two systems. I enjoy playing games (occasionally), editing videos, surfing, MS OFFICE suite for work related stuff.

NP8760 (~$2100)

Sager NP8760 (Built on Clevo W870CU) Custom Gaming Laptop
- 17.3" FHD LED Backlit 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1080)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Intel® Core™ i7-720QM, 1.60-2.80GHz, (45nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 280M 1,024MB PCI-Express GDDR3 DX10 (User Upgradeable)
- No External Graphics Card
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (Requires Vista 64-Bit to utilize Full 4GB)
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- None Standard -
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5300 802.11 a/g/n Wi-Fi Link
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- 11.1V Smart Li-Polymer battery pack 3800mAh, 42.18Wh
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle

AND

ASUS G72GX-RBBX05
brand new sealed ($920, private seller)

# Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700
Features 2 processing cores, 1066MHz system bus, 3MB L2 cache and 2.53GHz processor speed per core.
# 2 high-performance processing cores
To run multiple demanding applications simultaneously without hesitation.
# 6GB DDR2 memory
For multitasking power.
# Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive with double-layer support
Records up to 8.5GB of data or 4 hours of video using compatible DVD+R DL media.
# 17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen display
With 1600 x 900 resolution showcases movies and games in stunning clarity.
# 500GB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm)
Offers spacious storage and fast read/write times. 1 E-SATA connection for added convenience.
# Built-in facial recognition
Protects sensitive information.
# NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M graphics
Features 1GB GDDR3 video memory for lush images. HDMI output for connecting to an HDTV. 2 built-in speakers with DSP and Dolby Home Theater support.
# Built-in 1.3MP webcam
Makes it easy to chat online with family and friends.
# 8-in-1 media reader
Supports MultiMediaCard, Secure Digital, xD-Picture Card, Smart Media, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO and Memory Stick Duo formats.
# IEEE 1394 (FireWire) interface and 4 high-speed USB 2.0 ports
For fast digital video, audio and data transfer.
# Built-in wireless LAN (802.11b/g/n)
Wirelessly connect to the Internet.
# Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps fast Ethernet LAN
With RJ-45 connector for quick and easy wired Web connection.
# Weighs 8.8 lbs. and measures 2" thin
For portable power.
# Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64-bit operating system preinstalled

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here are the points I'm debating over

1) huge difference in price

2) I plan to play Crysis on my laptop

3) I've never owned a gaming laptop before and am worried the fan noise on the NP8760 might be louder than I'm comfortable with.

is there any chance any current owner can post a video to see how loud the fan noise is at idle (web surfing)

4) DDR2 RAM vs. DDR3 RAM

5) If I buy the asus I can always use the money I saved to upgrade to a better CPU and still make out like a bandit

6) backlit keyboard on the asus is a huge plus (I dont think it is on the Sager)

7) i7 + 280m combo is a beast!

any input from you guys in making my decision would be greatly appreciated,

thanks!

 

@ Caly Man:

1) Yep, Sagers are expensive - but that's an incredible deal on the G72gx! Unfortunately, it's the cheaper version with the slower C2D and 5200rpm HDD, and not the quad-core version.

2) Crysis will run great on the G72gx on at least medium settings. But even the NP8760 can't run it at maximum settings (but high settings it can manage).

3) You will get used to the fan noise. And it honestly isn't that bad on the NP8760, even compared to other computers of similar size and specifications. My 2-year-old Toshiba was louder.

4) Not enough difference between DDR2 and DDR3. You wouldn't notice. Besides, quantity of RAM is more important than speed (to make a sweeping and not-always-true generalization). Still, even 2GB is enough for most purposes.

5) I'm not sure how upgradeable the G72gx is, but at most you could put a QX9300 in it (I'm not sure if you can go from dual core to quad) or a high-end dual core - no i7's for you. And you wouldn't be saving much money by doing that.

6) Sure, your call. I don't like backlit keyboards, but if that's your thing, go for it.

7) Yes it is!

 

has someone already found a tool to undervold the cpu ?
Or Grafigcard to OC?

 

Anyone know if there's been a bios update, or if there's any way to set your SATA to IDE mode? I need to do that to upgrade my OCZ Vertex's firmware, but it doesn't appear to be one of the options in the bios...

 

I'm pretty sure there hasn't been a bios update. From my bios in the NP8690, it doesn't appear to be possible to set IDE mode.

How does the upgrade process work? Maybe we can come up with a workaround? If it's a windows executable, we can slipstream the SATA drivers into a WinPE boot cd..

 

Oh, and t-minus 36 hours till I place the order for my W870CU! WOo!

 

Great! Will you be doing some sort of reveiw for this one? I just didn't get around to doing much when I got mine. Please tell us how much time from ordering it to shipping since they are in demand right now. Also would you put it in your sig what you are getting?

 

Well to upgrade the firmware from 1.1 to 1.3, you need to boot to DOS (I have a dos-bootable USB fob) and run a little utility. Unfortunately the drive needs to be in IDE mode or the firmware updater won't find the drive.

I do have an external SATA drive enclosure that I could put the disk in...I guess that might work, I'm not sure how USB enclosures interface to the drive. Of course that would mean opening up my laptop and digging out the drive, which I'd rather not do.

Also, I just got my 870CU on Thursday, I'll be posting a little mini-review and my thoughts on buying from Malibal tomorrow probably.

 

I'll probably do another post on it, but I certainly won't put the word "review" in it this time. It's actually a Christmas present for me, so I'm ordering it in expectation of the current back-orders. I'm hoping it doesn't take more than 2-3 weeks total, but I'll certainly document how long it takes to arrive.

 

Yeesh, good luck.. Has google turned up any ideas?

Looking forward to the mini-review! Hope your experience with Malibal was as good as mine.

 

I'm strongly considering buying a Sager NP8760 and was wondering if anyone could suggest someplace other than XoticPC to buy from that isn't going to charge me for the OS seperately.

 

No Clevo/Sager reseller is going to do that. Sorry man!

 

What difference does it make if they charge you separately? Just curious...

 

In some case they charge you less, I guess.

 

Mines on back order at XoticPC -- at least I'm in the queue now! Should get them by the 30th so I think I'm golden. Order SOONER rather than later!

 

If you can't get to IDE mode you can't update the BIOS -- confirmed with my vertex when I went to 1.4. It won't recognize the drive -- tried everything, going IDE works. You will need to do this in another laptop or just plug it into a SATA port on a desktop.

 

Ordered tonight!

 

I ordered on the 11th of November and after filling out a support ticket with Malibal asking for an update I was informed that there is a back order until the 1st of December. Don't know what that means for my shipping date, but it obviously won't be earlier than the 1st.

 

Wow, that sucks Jeff. I found out about the back-order about a week ago. Decided to just get the order in tonight so I'm on the list when they arrive. I ordered through Malibal too, I'm expecting to get it around the 4th or the 7th. I took the cheap-o ground shipping, and my last order from Malibal to Chicago took 5 days via UPS. Sounds like a couple more weeks of looking at photos for us!

 

What specs did you guys configure, Jeff and jabbermacy? Either of you shell out for the 920XM? So far I think babyhemi is the only one with the 920.

 

Dec 4th-7th seems pretty optimistic, don't ya think?

Here's what differed from the base config in my order:

4GB RAM
80GB SSD
W7 Home Premium
2 year warranty

Might upgrade to the 920xm sometime down the road when they're cheaper. Already going over my budget as it is.

 

A bit I suppose, but I heard the 30th on the date.. and they're just drop-shipped from the US warehouse, the laptops don't get sent to Malibal, and then to us, so I think it might be closer to the 7th, but not to far past that.

 

I could find one US reseller that does, but it's probably not going to save you any money. For US based resellers, XoticPC sells the Sager NP8760 configuration, of this Clevo W870CU laptop, (base configuration includes the Core i7-720QM, 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD, Intel 5300 WiFi, and carrying case), with 1 year warranty for parts, 3 years for labor, and lifetime technical support, for 1959.00. Malibal has the exact same Sager NP8760 configuration of this laptop available under their Satori series label, with a 1 year parts and labor warranty, and 1 year technical support, for 1934.00. Both vendors offer OS purchase options that are as cheap as 90.00 for Windows 7 Home Premium.

Avadirect does offer this laptop with an OS included, in what looks like a Clevo W870CU labeled model, with their own base configuration, (base configuration includes the Core i7-720QM, 2GB RAM, 500GB HDD, with no WiFi, and carrying case), with 1 year warranty for parts and labor and lifetime technical support. The base configuration also includes Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit), for a total price of 2162.47, (and if you remove the OS from the configurator it will reduce the price by 116.66). Lastly RJTech offers the Clevo W870CU barebones model, (without any CPU, RAM, HDD, or WiFi, but with the carrying case), and 1 year parts and labor warranty, and 1 year technical support, for a base price 1419.00. Everything else is an extra.

Good Luck..

 

Nope -- too expensive! I'll upgrade in a year when prices come down. Here's my baby! I plan on using the $189 SSD from newegg for the boot drive and my Vertex120 for storage. I already have the Kingston 4gig HyperX kit sitting at home. Should scream very nicely

1x Sager NP8760 (Built on Clevo W870CU) Custom Gaming Laptop
- Display: 17.3" FHD LED Backlit 16:9 "Glar
- Dead Pixel Policy: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-820QM, 1.73-3.06
- Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Video Card: nVidia GeForce GTX 280M 1,024MB
- External Graphics Card: No External Graphics Card
- External Monitor Video Adapter: No Video Adapter
- Ram: ~ 2,048MB DDR3 1333MHz Memory (1
- Exterior Finish: Standard Finish
- Optical Drive: ~ 2X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Supe
- Primary Hard Drive: ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 3
- Second Hard Drive: None Standard -
- Raid: HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- External Hard Drive (Back Up): No Back Up Hard Drive
- Floppy Drive: No Floppy Drive
- Memory Card Reader: Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Wireless Network: Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 530
- Wireless Network Accessories: No Network Accessory
- Camera: Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- TV Tuner: No TV Tuner
- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audi
- Case: Basic Black Business Case - Incl
- Battery: 11.1V Smart Li-Polymer battery p
- Car Adapter: No Car Adapter
- Spare AC Adapter: Sager NP8760 Spare AC Adapter
- Port Replicator / Dock / Adapter: No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- Mouse / Keyboard Accessories: No External Keyboard or Mouse
- Notebook Cooler: No Notebook Cooler
- Operating System: No Operating System Standard - D
- Microsoft Office Software (Media: No Office Software
- Software Bundle (Not Installed): No Software Bundle
- Warranty: 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warra
- Xotic Gear: Xotic PC Black T-Shirt (Specify

 

So you think you'll get yours around the same time I will even though you ordered 11 days after I did?

 

Personally I'm predicting Dec7th ship and Dec12th delivery for mine.

 

yup,

with 920 if I ever get it, forwarding from Maine to Texas...before going overseas next week, timing not good for this whole process...anyway SS changed his avatar, when did that happen? See moo still same avatar, joker still the same. Congrats BrandonSi, don't you have your 8690 already? Anyway, will post when...when..when I get it

 

Yes, since the back-order will catch us up. The volume of business they do isn't like Dell. They'll catch up on all back-orders within a few days. Yours may beat mine by a day or two since you're before me on their list, but it will not be by a difference of 11 days.

 

Good luck man, hope the timing works out..!

Yes, I did receive my 8690. Actually two of them, as the first was defective! The final one I received worked great, amazing machine, can't wait to see how much better the W870CU is.

 

Anybody need the "open" - BIOS of the W870CU

 

Yes please Happy to host it as well, but obviously I know you have a nice website

 

Any chance that bios lets you set the SATA controller to IDE mode?

 

WoW, beautiful! If you would have a similar one for the M570TU I will for ever be in your debt.

 

He might! I see he has one for the M980NU..

 

Oh yes, he does. If he can provide one for the M570TU it would be amazing, especially for those with ES CPUs with unlocked multipliers. If they can do that, then MySN will definitely earn my respect as an awesome barebone reseller ...

 

Alright, MySN -- we want the W870CU unlocked BIOS. Can you provide? I can't seem to PM you! Thanks in advance!

 

I'm sure he's removed the option to receive PM's because we'd bug him until he goes crazy, or gives us the bios, or both. But I would be happy to give him a a euro or five for his troubles

 

He never had PM access to begin with. He only has three posts. Like every other user on this forum, he needs five posts and a privileges server update to be able to send and receive PM's.

 

Are you drinking again? What is a "privileges server update"?

 

Soviet is correcthe needs more post, then the server will refresh and assign new privlages to the members who need them

 

Every vB forum has a privilege database that records every user and what "privileges" they have access to. It would be too taxing on the host server if the database was updated every few minutes as the member list is quite large in the six digits. mySN.de is no different. He needs to achieve five posts and wait until the server refreshes again so he can gain access to PM control.

 

Think of it as Linux

 

It's actually the privileges table within the vB database.. and I know, I was just teasing. You just phrased it rather strangely is all.

 

You and your silly anime..