*** OFFICIAL Sager NP8760 / Clevo W870CU Owners Lounge ***

why not use a keyboard cover instead?

 

Or wash your hands and wipe the keyboard when you're finished.

 

I do that all the time, i never used a keyboard cover before.

 

You can get a replacement keyboard from Sager or RJTech as you said, or any other Clevo distributor. But removing the keyboard on the W870CU is a bit more extensive than the previous Clevo models so be prepared to do a lot of notebook "flipping."

 

Alright thanks everyone!

 

I updated the first post with the latest Manual that has the ATI HD 5870 in it.

The Latest Manual dated 3-30-2010

 

Question for those more familiar with the Clevo/Sager brand...

I just bought a W8707CU and have one minor concern. The space bar seems to be hinged on the side closest to me, so I really need to focus on hitting the space bar squarely in order for it to register.

Is this common to the brand, or do I have a minor defect here?

Not a huge deal, really, as I'm sort of getting used to the whole chiclet keyboard, too.

It's been great otherwise.

EDIT: I think I found my answer after a bit more sifting through some posts. I guess the keyboard on this brand could stand for a bit of improvement. Overall, I think it's not bad... Just gotta hit the space bar squarely all the time. All other keys are fine. Certainly not a deal-breaker for me.

 

hummm mine gets dusty to much ...

I gues I am used to my AW ... I do hate dust on the edges of the screen ( I miss E2E

 

This is my second NP8760-W870CU. I've had this model since October (almost 6 months), still loving it and not tired of it yet. Looks like I will have this one at least until a substantial Crossfirex or a SLI system comes out.

 

Hey guys, i'm new to this forum and new to the NP8760, i absolutely love the computer btw. However... i'm having trouble finding updated drivers for the 280m graphics card, and some of the newer games like Metro 2033 require updated drivers. i have updated to the latest driver off of the sager website(same one thats on the clevo site) the 8.15.11.8647 (181.61 i think) but still not working, tried updating to the one off of the nvidia site but it tells me that it can't find any hardware compatible with it's drivers(or something along those lines). I've even contacted the sager site about new drivers or maybe a workaround for the nvidia ones, and they wrote me back telling me they could offer me a nice ATI card for $300 +shipping...

so what my question actually was guys & gals, is if any of you have found a workaround or a way to update to the newest drivers?

I'd be grateful for any help you can provide.

PS don't really care about the sleep functions when closing the lid and such, the only thing i wouldn't care to lose is the hdmi hook-up to the TV.

 

Try here.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/Videocards---NVIDIA-GeForce--Vista-|-7_c32.html

 

What would be the best replacement thermal pad for the ati 5870?
I was looking at the 　H48-6G Thermal Conductive Pad from http://www.tglobal.com.tw/thermal-pads-paste.htm but I'm not sure if that would work.

 

The HD5870 don't need a thermal pad just thermal paste if you talking about the memory pads you may need like 1mm. Thick pads

 

hey thx for the link to that site its the first time i've seen that, however all i see when i follow it is the links for the desktop graphics and i didn't find what i need for the mobile series...

was there something i'm missing on that page or on the site?

 

Thx for the help, while i was writing another reply to sager (explaining that i wasn't refering to DX11 but graphics drivers, because they told me the only cards they had that supported DX11 were ATI ) and including a link to the nvidia site, i decided to try out the newest driver released, 197.16, and low and behold it worked, and so does metro 2033 now

sweet, anyways i just wanted to say thx and problem solved

 

Is it really true that w870cu keeps cool on heavy 3d applications and heavy gaming? Basically, I want a strong notebook that keeps cool, especially the gpu!

 

oh dear my 8760 got delayed due to lack of hd screens!

 

My 8690 GPU temp on furmark extreme burning gets 82C max, 8760 is bigger so should be even cooler by a bit. It's very fine, laptops like G73 gets 80+C just from gaming, not to even mention furmark.

 

So do u think that with a GTX 280M it will still be so cool?. On FurMark, a gpu temperature of 82C in extreme burning mode means the GPU will hardly ever reach 80C. Am asking so much because in my clevo m570tu in Furmark, I reach 98C with 9800M GTX not OCed. This is reaaaally hot.

 

Not sure about 280 though, my 5870 rarely gets above 70 during normal gaming.

 

Generally, comparing to the Sager np5797 (M570TU), what is your opinion about it (performance, look...)

 

Yeah I'm just looking for some pointers for memory pads. Do they need to be hard, soft, have high compressibility. what about high or low thermal conductivity, kind of confused about the specs.

 

As long as the pads aren't old or severely used, then they're good. Thermal conductivity plays a factor, but durability and longevity is most important here.

 

The GPU portion of the cooling overhaul is underway. So far I have made several revisions to the scope of my project. I realized that having thermal pads on the underside of the card is actually detrimental to performance as heat would saturate and retain itself in the aluminium bracket with very little if not any CFM is cooling it. The thermal pads under the card immediately went to the compost. I have removed the gauze that is wrapped around the edges of the cold plate as I thought they were redundant. I replaced the thermal pads on the chokes with 0.5mm pads and the inductors on both sides with 1.5mm pads. I replaced the thermal pads on the GPU memory a second time with a fresh set of 2mm pads.

I have lined most of the cold plate over the GPU die with copper blocks. I realized that I have run short of copper as I have used some for other projects and some tossed out in failed sanding. Though a lot of the GPU cold plate still remains bare of copper blocks, I have decided to awaken my GTX 285M from it's dormant 500/1250/800 state and overclocked it high to 660/1650/1020 as my primary clocks. Originally I chose 680/1700/1020 as my primary clocks, but I decided to step down from it as the difference in performance between the two clocksets are almost negligible and I reminded myself that my philosophy behind overclocking is for stability and long term sustainability and durability. Also, I did not like the idea of having a max temperature ceiling of 85*C with 680/1700/1020 while 660/1650/1020 is completely stable up to my standard of 88*C. 660/1650 on the core/shader is also a straight 10% increase in performance from the factory clocks of 600/1500, and that is plenty enough for me. So far, with some of the GPU cooling overhaul complete, it is taking an ungodly amount of time for my GPU to even break 70*C on OCCT. Pictures and detailed results will come in due time with the final publishing of the W870CU cooling overhaul. I just hope that I can get some of my schoolwork out of the way for the weekends so I can get back to the sander.

 

Nice work Soviet!

For me however, it seemed that the underside thermal pads helped a little bit and reduced max temps but 1-2C over the same time period. But maybe the GPU enclosure in the M570TU is different...

 

Yes, it helped because the bottom half of the heatsink cage has a third heatpipe that leads to the radiator. That is why it is beneficial to alleviate some of the thermal load onto the bottom half. The W870CU does not have any path for heat to escape the aluminium bracket, so the concept was bust.

I sold my 160W PSU to a certain lucky somebody here on NBR. Thank you for your business. In my 160W PSU's replacement is the D900F/X8100's 220W PSU. I will be modding that one with the barrel plug from one of the two 120W units I bought on eBay for a supreme deal. My idea behind this move was to use the 120W unit on the go and my 220W unit at home. It essentially came from the reason as to why I bought my 1201N as a smaller, more mobile package to my W870CU.

 

I see, that makes perfect sense then.

I am pretty sure 160W was more than enough . I hope that in a future the Clevo will give a slightly more powerful PSU to it's 17.3 model without sacrificing size or weight...

 

I've left power behind me. Having the power load of a mobile CPU/single GPU notebook on a PSU that offers ~83% more power reserves compared to the original one just screams cool operation and high efficiency. I'm all about cooling, stability, and efficiency. The 220W PSU fits better with the HDD heatsink I have for it anyway.

I plan to stuff it full of thermal pads just like I did with my 160W one. It's not really going to help dissipation by much since the main bottleneck here is still the PSU casing itself, which is made of Lexan. Operating the PSU without the casing would be very beneficial, though I'm only running a W870CU on it so it doesn't matter anyway since it's going to run cold as ice.

 

Thanks to babyhemi, i am now a proud owner of an excellent machine!
babyhemi is recommended by this NBR user

i look forward to getting advice from all the other owners on how to keep this beast running great.

@soviet - THANKS!

 

Anyone update to the new BIOS 1.10S? know what it does?

 

With what gpu and cpu did you get it. First look? I care a lot about gpu temperature of the GTX 280/285M. I/f it is so low as all say, I will order this machine.

@all If I order it, will it last for about 2,5-3 years comparing performance....????

 

if that was to me, i got mine iwth the i7-720/gtx285 combo
running cool as far as i can tell, havent gamed yet still playing with it atm
i really need to go sleep

 

Hi guys,
Is there any way to upgrade my NP8760 to support more than 8GB of RAM? I'm running a bunch of VMs andcould really use 12 or even 16 GB.

Thanks

 

The max amount of memory that the PM55 chipset's MCH on this notebook can allocate is 8GB, or 4GB per stick. In the future when larger capacity modules are released, the MCH cannot utilize them. 8GB sticks do not exist yet anyway.

 

With the memory controller being in the cpu now I would imagine it is just a matter of a bios update when the modules come out if even that is necessary. 8gb dimm support on the desktop has bee normal for a while now.

 

Just a questions, how and what software do you guys use to overclock your 5870? I'm using 10.3 driver, and whichever software I use, be it rivatuner or MSI afterburner or GPU clock tool, it will either return a card not supported, or in the case of MSI afterburner, I could adjust the clock rates, but when I set to apply it will jump back to the default.

 

This works better for the 5870m.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1641/AMD_GPU_Clock_Tool_v0.9.26.0_For_HD_5870.html

 

Yeah thats pretty much the only one that works that i know of...

 

When I acquire the bios though, it says that it could be corrupted, would there be any risks in flashing the bios? I would actually prefer a safer method compared to bios flashing.

 

It's purely a software OC and does not involve flashing the vbios. Different from RBE.

 

Just use the software to overclock the GPU ... Crank up the clocks to what ever you feel like and click set clocks..

 

Hmmm... problem is there's no set clocks button on my RBE.

However, after running RBE, I found that I could now access rivatuner's low level system settings and could set my clock from there, is this what you mean?

OK OCed to 800mhz core clock, furmark temp only went up by 3C to 85C, what would be a safe memory clock?

 

No. Forget RBE. AMD GPU Clock Tool for HD5870 is completely separate utility. Just download from the link provided earlier, install and run. Very simple, safe procedure. You don't need to fool with the video bios at all unless you want to make the OC settings permanent. Different subject, different time.

 

The previous AMD GPU clock tool I had returns an error of invalid device detected whenever I tried to run it, downloaded a newer version and it's working now. Though after running RBE, it automatically patched my rivatuner such that it works as well.

 

Sounds like you're set. Enjoy.

 

I tried installing the Elite Tuner, after downloading from the OP's link, but I got "Error during driver initiation" Help please.

 

Try completely uninstalling it and then restart the computer then reinstall it...

 

Try right clicking on the file and selecting Run as Administrator. You may also have to temporarily disable your antivirus program.

Edit: Sorry, intended in response to Ewong11692 (#1747).

 

An also good and reliable program for overclocking ati cards is ATi Tools. It has no limits overclocking and gives the ability to test your configuration from a 3D stress test.

 

You can also try to disable UAC in win vista or 7. It can also help you in your case.