**OFFICIAL W860CU/NP8690 Owners Lounge**

Can anyone tell me what the idle temps should be for the NP8690 ? As well if you have them preformance temps ?

Mine are reading averages of 52 and as high as 64 ?

 

That's hot.

 

Ye thought so, Hardware Monitor showing high 40's and low 50's atm after I have turned it off and left it too cool. So its basically ice cold atm and still getting those temps.

Do you know what the temps should get up to during games Soviet ?

 

The CPU fan on threshold is ~50*C and the cutoff point is ~40*C, so your idle temps are good. It's the 64*C that I reacted to as your idle temp. I may have misread your post as I think now you were referring to 64*C as your max observed load temp.

 

Ye, I mean as we speak the highest im seeing is 54*C (CPU) and 43*C (GPU).

Im going to do some more idle stuffl ike youtube and music and see if it gets any higher.

 

As for the GPU, the fan should turn on around ~45*C and turn off at ~34*C. If your CPU and GPU temps stay within the "first gear" fan thresholds that I described for the CPU and GPU fans during light work and idle, then you're good.

 

Hi all,

I went to take a look at a W860CU based machine today (Novatech X70), to have a 'hands-on' play with it before buying.

The 1920x1080 screen looks awesome, no doubt about that. But with a completely black background, the green trails described above definitely exist - and what's odd is that they only appeared in some areas of the screen and not others. There was a band towards the left edge of the screen that was affected, and another, wider band just to the right of centre, very clear and very obvious when dragging a mostly white window around.

The rest of the screen, however, showed no ghosting at all, so clearly it's not necessarily an inherent property of the display. Maybe the shop floor model was damaged?

Has anyone else encountered this effect, where the visibility of green trails varies from one area of the screen to another? And has anyone seen it occur over a background that's not completely black?

The mouse buttons below the touchpad were absolutely horrible too - almost certainly damaged in the case of this particular machine. Are they generally OK in normal use on an un-abused machine? And is there any difference between the feel of the buttons with / without the fingerprint scanner?

Thanks
Andy

 

I don't see the green trails with mine-

 

I dont see green trails either, as for the mouse buttons cant comapre them with and without fingerprint reader but I dont imagine there is much difference. Mine are fine im using an eternal mouse when on for long periods of time, but when I do use the mouse pad I find it fine (Strong and responsive).

The only thing I will say is that the right click doesnt click as well as the left,
e.g when left click is pressed I get a depressed clicking noice, but when I pres the right no noice, the button jut depreses. However that said they both feel sturdy and respond well.

 

On another note, can anyone tell me weather there benchmark score for my NP8690 are poor/average/good with my config. Thanks:
http://img87.imageshack.us/i/systemg.jpg/

http://img25.imageshack.us/i/vantagescore.jpg/

http://img14.imageshack.us/i/3dmark06d.jpg/

 

How did you get a vantage CPU score of 26k with a 720?!?

The GPU and total score in vantage is about right though. Average/normal for your setup.

 

One word PhysX.

 

Ahh. I forgot!

Thanks drake...

 

so the 26K is normal lol ?

 

Yes, with nvidia cheating

Say you had a 5870 then 11k would be more appropriate for the CPU score.

 

I don't get green trails

 

For what it's worth, I ordered the Steelseries Siberia V2 USB headset, which has its own standalone USB soundcard. I'll be getting it on Monday and will post a quick review if folks want.

 

I'll be looking forward to that.

 

I've heard that the w860cu has the same mb as the w870cu, can anybody confirm this? and if it's true, would it be possible to run a cable from the unused connector and fit 2 1.8" hard drives in the 2.5" bay?

 

Users manual says RAID is not supported. Of course that could be because the chassis simply has no room for multiple hard drives.

 

Well if the motherboards are the same you could always flash to the w870cu bios and then you'd have raid.

 

Yes please will look forward to that

 

Both the W860CU and the W870CU have the second SATA connector on their motherboards. It's just the W860CU doesn't have room for a second HDD, nor is the second connector easily accessible without disassembling the entire bottom half of the chassis. The motherboards are not 100% identical, but they're close enough. But I do not know if they are close enough to successfully crossflash each others' system BIOS. If you want to be the first to brick your notebook, be my guest.

 

There should be some kind of prize for that.

 

Yeah, the prize is a video of me laughing my shiny metal *ss off at whoever was greedy enough to attempt the flash.

 

Anyone know were I can get some awesome 1080p wallpapers ? for the 8690.

 

http://images.google.com/images?hl=...10&aql=&oq=#start=0&imgw=1920&imgh=1080&tbo=1

 

Thanks, I would have that one you posed but I dont think I could turn on my laptop to those eyes lol.

 

Your *ss is made of metal???

 

Naturally.

 

I wasn't going to ask about that.

 

Is it wise to keep the battery plugged in while the a/c adapter is powered on? The temps get higher when it's in that state. Should I remove the battery and keep the laptop plugged in?

 

You can do to also preserve the battery's shelf life. However I tried that and it leaves a huge hole in the bottom of you lappy and im sensitive about dust and what not so I will take the heat increase.

 

Are these OK?

Without Battery:


With Battery:


Quite surprised that there's not much difference between them but I'm just wondering if those are OK with the kind of load that it's handling.

 

Leaving your battery installed while you are plugged in is fine.

Your test comparing temps with the battery and temps without the battery is inaccurate. A lot has changed in correlation with the temps during those five minutes.

 

which gadget do u use for gpu?

 

Such a shame that the "cover" is part of the battery itself. If there was an "empty battery" dust cover available, I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat!

 

I never did understand why people insist on taking the battery out while on AC.

 

Ye definitely!! Theres an idea for an invention

The reason is because leaving the battery in whilst on AC deteriorates the battery life. Same reason as plugging the AC in the when battery on the laptop isnt down to critical. Its not good for your battery.

 

The electronics in the battery cut the current off it when on AC power. The detoriation is minimal in laptops.

The batteries would detoriate, if they were not controlled, but as they are there is very little to worry about.

 

It's true that the heat from a laptop isn't good for the battery - but recharging it when it's only partially discharged is fine. In fact, lithium batteries don't like being fully discharged; the only reason to do it occasionally is to recalibrate the 'fuel gauge' circuit, so you get an accurate measurement of how much charge is left.

 

This.

I have always used my laptops with battery in for years. As long as they are Li Ion or polymer, there won't be any issues.

If it makes you feel better to take it out, then by all means do so.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5937259&postcount=28
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5937803&postcount=33
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5937914&postcount=35

Understand that it's not just the battery. The cells are voltage regulated and protected. Also, Li-po cells are more robust to heat than Li-ion so it can easily withstand the heat being generated by the HDD.

 

Ahh I see.

 

Please if someone could help, i have my own problem in a ubuntu forum thread:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8903514#post8903514

thanks

 

That means that the temps are OK?

http://blog.orbmu2k.de/

 

What I'm saying is that the battery being in it's bay or not should not have an influence on your CPU and GPU temps when you're plugged in. The only way that it would show a difference in temperature is if the position of your notebook was altered since it would have a difficult time "standing" on only three feet. And your comparison was not concise. You were running things in the background, including an MMORPG, which can change during the time you are observing the temperatures.

Oh, and your temps are not okay. Those are hot.

 

Hmmm... if it is hot, I guess I need to take a look at the thermal paste and probably reapply it. Even Idle temps are around 50 ~ 55*C for CPU and 4x*C for GPU. The GPU, I find to be OK but the CPU, I'm a little bit worried. When the laptop is running the programs I showed earlier, the GPU temps hovers around 56 ~ 62*C and well, for the CPU, it's the same. I doubt the MMO has much to do in causing temp fluctuations because I was in the same spot during the time I took the screenshot and also the mobs spawn at a constant rate so there's not much difference I guess. I may be wrong on the count.

Any suggestions on what I can do to lower down the temps? When the game is running and I turn off the A/C adapter, the temps drop. To around, low 60s' for CPU and high 50s' for GPU. Sorry if I sound so n00b-ish. I'm still learning the ropes on these kind of systems.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5595798&postcount=677

The notebook will not operate at full speed when on battery, hence you get temp drops since your components are restricted. And even then, your CPU and GPU temps on battery are still hot.

Temp fluctuations due to your applications and games do play a factor, even if you are just standing in one spot in town. It's not perfectly linear and given the way the i7 juggles workloads from core to core will skew your perceived results even more regardless of how "close" they may be. Poor experimentation and analysis almost always leads to negative feedback about a product and ultimately group panic if the results are against the estimations of the product.. But I'm not going to get into that.

Your idle temps should not be exceeding 50*C and your GPU should not be exceeding 45*C. Both temperatures should be slowly "rollercoastering" through their fan temperature thresholds of 40-50*C on the CPU and 34-45*C on the GPU. I'd like to say that you either live in a warm area, or that you are not using a flat surface. But it's the thermal paste here that is most likely the primary cause. Wax on, wax off, then try again. Your temps should be better after you replace it for the first time.

 

It is particularly warm in this area. Around 30*C at most. Also, this table is as flat as it can be. Any flatter, I'd have to get a new table. I'll take a look into the thermal paste now and see what I find. I'll post the results later.